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Opening Up the Twins 40 Man Roster


Ted Schwerzler

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The 2019 Major League Baseball season officially comes to an end tonight as the Washington Nationals and Houston Astros wrap up game seven of the World Series. As the league calendar switches over to 2020 there will be significant roster shuffling. For the Minnesota Twins that already began yesterday, but the front office isn’t close to done when it comes to a 40-man overhaul.

 

After getting run with the big-league club in September the Twins outrighted a trio of talent off the 40 man yesterday. Outfielders Ian Miller and Ryan LaMarre were jettisoned, and they were joined by utility infielder Ronald Torreyes. With both Byron Buxton and Sean Poppen still on the 60-day IL and needing cleared spots, the Twins effectively have 39 of 40 holes filled. Add in the claiming of Matt Wisler and you’ve got a full boat.

 

There’s a crop of free agents that will be moving on from Minnesota, and then there’s a handful of arbitration and pre-arbitration guys that decisions will need to be made on. Here’s how they could all turn out:

 

Free Agents: Jake Odorizzi, Kyle Gibson, Sergio Romo, Jason Castro, Jonathan Schoop

 

The only name missing from this group is Michael Pineda, who is also set to become a free agent. With his suspension however, he was immediately removed from the 40 man, and would not count against it for any acquiring team until he is reinstated. Gibson is obviously the longest tenured of this group, and it’ll be weird for both the organization and the player to part after a decade together. Despite how it ended, there were some significant high points, and no one could have represented Twins Territory better. Castro split time with Mitch Garver under Rocco Baldelli this season, and if his body will hold up, there’s no reason he shouldn’t be looking for a starting gig somewhere.

 

Both Schoop and Romo made quick cameos for the Twins. The former was acquired at the trade deadline while the latter was had on a one-year deal. Romo has certain appeal to return as both a good pitcher and strong clubhouse presence, while Schoop would seem to be redundant after the emergence of Luis Arraez.

 

I'd certainly like to see Minnesota hand Odorizzi a qualifying offer and look to work out a two-year deal. If he's the second or third starting rotation piece they add this offseason, then you'd have to feel pretty good about the group as a whole.

 

Non-Tender: Sam Dyson, C.J. Cron

 

Of these two one is a guarantee while the other is far from it. Minnesota dealt for the best reliever at the deadline in Dyson, and instead of a shutdown arm, they got a guy who hid injury (or his former team did) and sapped an asset for nothing. Dyson has one more year of arbitration, and while it would have been great to feel his impact, the only thing Minnesota felt is the bomb he dropped on them after coming here.

 

What happens to C.J. Cron is largely dependent on how the Twins view Miguel Sano. The former Rays and Angels first basemen had a fine year, and especially so considering the sapped power from his thumb injury. If Sano is moving across the diamond or a better third basemen is a target, then there’s no need to tender Cron at something near $8 million. If he comes back, there’s also nothing wrong with going that route, and assuming the thumb is back to 100%, he’s a good bet to put up even better numbers in 2020.

 

Decline Option: Martin Perez

 

There was a time in 2019 when Perez’s option for 2020 looked certain to be picked up, then May 30th happened. Going into that start against the Rays Perez owned a 2.95 ERA and appeared to be the poster child for a Twins influenced fix. He was shelled for six runs in 2.2 IP and owned a 6.29 ERA over his final 21 starts. Left off the Postseason roster the Twins will almost certainly pay the $500k buyout as opposed to the $7.5 million salary next season.

 

Outright: Trevor Hildenberger, Kohl Stewart

 

When outrighting a player off the 40-man you’re considering a certain level of opportunity cost. Neither Hildenberger nor Stewart need to go anywhere, but there’s a pretty compelling argument that they both should. Once a pen stalwart for Paul Molitor, Hildy seemed to be ridden into the ground and then left for dead. He came back from Triple-A last year but was every bit as ineffective and has now posted a 6.35 ERA in his last 89.1 major league innings. For a sidearmer that isn’t fooling anyone, it’s simply not going to cut it.

 

Last season the Twins parted ways with former first round pick Tyler Jay. He never made it to the big leagues, and while Stewart has, this appears to be his time. There’s plenty of better internal options, and Minnesota’s focus this offseason is going to be on pitching. Stewart continued down a path his minor league numbers suggested in that he simply can’t strike anyone out, and the stuff wasn’t good enough to play at the highest level.

 

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Not sure how much of next year Dyson will even be available for. 

 

I suspect they'll sign CJ Cron. The Gibson issue is more complex. While he may have been injured, he simply wouldn't throw strikes when he should have. I hate him going to a 3-2 count nearly every at bat.

I doubt the injury had a great deal to do with that.

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I like the Schoop idea (above). Interesting. Sano has become the new Mauer. How he fits into the Twins now and in the future affects decisions.

 

Nick Gordon is a plus, I feel. A more-than=qualified spare infielder. WIll he just be stashed for another year at AAA and used for callups, or can he pushout Adrianza as the bench bat.

 

You forgot Odorizzi. I would trust him for one more year. Not sure if he is someone I would invest in longterm (3-4 years).

 

Is Stewart still safe because of his standing and continued rise, although only adequate, thru the system? Speaking or prospects - Romero needs to stay on the roster of 2020, Gonsalves will get another year to shine.

 

Signing someone like Wisler means Harper is redundant. Heck, I don't know why they even invested in Wisler with a 40-man spot. Someone you MIGHT be able to jsut get with a minor league invite.

 

Jake Cave and LaMonte Wade also have to be on the bubble. Do the Twins add Haley and Rooker? I don't picture the Twins needing both. But part of that decision will revolve around if the Twins do trade Rosario and maybe extend to spring training as we do the Buxton watch.

 

I picture 10 possible open spots. The Twins will only add 5-6 minor league guys, so four get to float towards spring and are jettisoned depending on what happens in the free agent signing field.

 

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I was underwhelmed and confused by the Wisler signing. Why confuse the 40 man with someone who might get to be replacement level if he is lucky.  There are alwas Wislers available by Spring Training.

 

But as I look at the 40 man roster I find some names that are really interesting - for example Romero.  Is he going to make it or did he just tease us a couple years ago.  Or did the Twins mess with a starter and turn him into a lousy reliever?  I feel that he has to be really great this spring or a DFA is in his future.

 

I would jettison Dyson and Pineda for the let down they created this year.  Sorry but they are not part of my dream team.

 

Ryne Harper was a nice story.  I hope he catches on with someone else this year.

 

Hildenberger, Perez, and Stewart are not at the level this team needs to seek so they can fill in for some team like the Orioles or Tigers.

 

Gonsalves??? I heard that name last year or was it the year before or the year before that.  Once our number one pitching prospect or so it seemed.  Either he produces big or he joins the other questionable pitching arms I listed above and seeks a chance elsewhere.

 

Now comes my most questionable thought - if we retain Castro we drop Astudillo.  Good story, but as much as I loved him this year I am not looking for him to be part of the team next year unless Castro goes.  Then he is here for a year until Jeffers moves into the second catcher position.

 

Wade and Cave - do we need both of them?  Who has more value and where to Raley and Rooker fit in.  At least half of them have to move on.

 

That is my heartless thoughts today - tomorrow they might be different.

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I was underwhelmed and confused by the Wisler signing. Why confuse the 40 man with someone who might get to be replacement level if he is lucky.  There are alwas Wislers available by Spring Training.

 

But as I look at the 40 man roster I find some names that are really interesting - for example Romero.  Is he going to make it or did he just tease us a couple years ago.  Or did the Twins mess with a starter and turn him into a lousy reliever?  I feel that he has to be really great this spring or a DFA is in his future.

 

I would jettison Dyson and Pineda for the let down they created this year.  Sorry but they are not part of my dream team.

 

Ryne Harper was a nice story.  I hope he catches on with someone else this year.

 

Hildenberger, Perez, and Stewart are not at the level this team needs to seek so they can fill in for some team like the Orioles or Tigers.

 

Gonsalves??? I heard that name last year or was it the year before or the year before that.  Once our number one pitching prospect or so it seemed.  Either he produces big or he joins the other questionable pitching arms I listed above and seeks a chance elsewhere.

 

Now comes my most questionable thought - if we retain Castro we drop Astudillo.  Good story, but as much as I loved him this year I am not looking for him to be part of the team next year unless Castro goes.  Then he is here for a year until Jeffers moves into the second catcher position.

 

Wade and Cave - do we need both of them?  Who has more value and where to Raley and Rooker fit in.  At least half of them have to move on.

 

That is my heartless thoughts today - tomorrow they might be different.

 

 

Rooker doesn't need to be added, so that's a question for a year from now... though likely a topic for about 7-8 months from now when he is added and called up.

 

Wisler wasn't a signing. It was a claim and things could happen with him. Could get a shot to work with Wes Johnson this spring. Could be DFAd any time during the offseason. 

 

Gonsalves was a top pitching prospect, and deservedly so, starting at a young age and in the low minors. He continued to do well for a couple of years, and last year was a lost year due to injury. He might still be in their picture and plans. Hildenberger is in a similar boat... though again, both certainly are more on the bubble now than a year ago. I'd say that is true for several.guys, including Stewart, maybe even Gordon from a position player standpoint. 

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Being as brief as I can.

 

Odorizzi and Romo are back. I'd bet on Pineda as well. Would love Castro back, but at a slightly reduced salary TBD. Depends on if he gets any real offers to be a primary catcher for a good contract. I'm just not convinced he gets a 2-3yr deal to do so.

 

I think Cron is also back.

 

Schoop is gone. So is Gibson. Just no room at this point for many factors. Perez, gone. Hildenberger, Stewart and also Harper, gone.

 

Gonsalves is an interesting name brought up. He has been a top prospect for a couple years now and teased some with his 2018 late season promotion. Not a polished prospect yet, his milb numbers and success screamed potential 4-5 SP...with growth potential to being a decent #3 with experience, IMHO...but mjssed virtually the entire 2019 season. If not protected, he will not slip through rule V. I believe he was still ranked anywhere from top 10-15 after 2018. Does the FO believe in him, healthy, enough to keep him?

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Gonsalves is an interesting name brought up. He has been a top prospect for a couple years now and teased some with his 2018 late season promotion. Not a polished prospect yet, his milb numbers and success screamed potential 4-5 SP...with growth potential to being a decent #3 with experience, IMHO...but mjssed virtually the entire 2019 season. If not protected, he will not slip through rule V. I believe he was still ranked anywhere from top 10-15 after 2018. Does the FO believe in him, healthy, enough to keep him?

 

Gonsalves is already on the 40-man roster, so he either stays on it, or he has to be DFAd. I think he'd be claimed. If not, he'd be eligible for the Rule 5 and he might be considered. 

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Let us not forget that Gonsalves has a MAJOR problem with walks in the minors culminating with nearly a walk per inning (22 BB in 24 innings pitched) in the MLB in 2018....

 

After looking up advanced statistics a came up with this intricate formula:

 

control problems + lowish velo = a pounding in MLB

 

I certainly HOPE that Gonsalves is NOT a big part of our plans going forward (

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