The_Phantom

70/15/15 is an absolute pipe dream. last year they were incredibly cautious to “avoid injury time” and it was 31%CF/22%DH/47%Off day. Well I guess 43% off day and 4% late game substitution. To think you’re gonna go from 31/22/47 to 75/15/15 is crazy

Considering this article is about how good the outfield defense will be, it’s disingenuous to say Buxton played in 92 games last year. Buxton played 51 games in centerfield last year. He started in 86 games last year (pinch hit in 6) and he was designated hitter in 35 of those games.

Why are so many twins fans so eager to point out Arraez may have potential injury issues, yet don’t mention the fact that Pablo Lopez missed almost half of 2019 and half of 2021 with shoulder/rotator cuff strains

Anyone worried about how he got here, or what anyone said along the way (whether “doomers” or “super homers”) is ridiculous. He was chasing the most money, the twins didn’t offer it, but they stayed in the hunt enough to have the competitive offer when all the pieces fell. Be glad the twins made a solid move in the right direction. now if they’d only make a real attempt to fix the bullpen

I left only the parts I wanted to respond to. 1. There’s a plethora of evidence that efforts aren’t made. Other teams miss out on deals and then we hear these huge offers they made , or we at least hear a legitimate reason the deal fell through. Most of the time after a player signs we just hear “the twins were never really close” or in the case of Correa we DID see an actual offer and the numbers weren’t close. 2. this is redundant for 1. 3. Nobody is assuming that. Nobody. I don’t know a single person who thought the twins should legitimately go after Aaron Judge or Bryce Harper. Why? We have outfielders, and at the type of Harper also had DH types. Those are mega contract guys at positions the twins didn’t need. People DO think twins should spend more when it’s an obvious position of need, and there is plenty of space in the payroll. 4. This is 1000000% not a problem. The problem is the opposite, actually. I have lost track of how many times the twins miss on a free agent that signed a reasonable deal and the twins fanbase copium is “free agents don’t want to come to Minnesota…” “it’s too cold here for guys to want to come” “it’s not a well known city” it is ALWAYS the excuse that Minnesota isn’t where guys want to go. If that’s true it’s because Minnesota doesn’t spend money and, whether you want to see it or not, has no direction. Minneapolis is gorgeous and has fantastic summer weather. Stop playing the victim card, it’s the most overused thing by this fanbase. And the reason everyone says there’s no plan is there is no plan. The evidence, again, is abundant. You sign a guy like Correa who everyone fully admits they knew was a one year deal with injury safety nets… and yet after signing that you trade for two injured starting pitchers and Emilio pagan, and call it a day. Who, by the way, nobody talks about the fact that the paddack and pagan deal fell into the twins lap every single bit as much as Carlos Correa did. The Mets were offered literally the exact same deal, and turned it down because of injury issues. And so the padres called up the twins and they said “sure!” the pitching situation also undeniably proves there is no plan. You make a blanket policy to pull pitchers early (even though there is a lot of reason that’s a bad idea which I’m not going to go into now… I’m just gonna say whether you agree with it or not, pitchers don’t go deep in ballgames) but their entire bullpen is built on guys that they sign on minor league deals and just pray to the baseball gods that one of them turns into a miracle. They make random moves that don’t help anything, and even worse they wait until the last minute and do it via trade. Trading depletes your farm system, and now that the twins have traded for so many injured or mediocre players, becuase they had 2 years of control left, the twins have a bottom 10 farm system. the reason everyone is upset with this team is that they’re in disaster mode, top to bottom. If you don’t want to see comments and articles like this anymore, realize the twins desperately need a new front office with vision and direction. Not just a couple guys who think they’re smart than the game (who hired a manager with the same mentality)

Why not, the FO has lol

Since his call up he’s played in 52.4% of twins games. In 2022 he started in 85 games, which is 52.4%. 2022 was not any banner year for playtime. I’d love for him to be an every day regular but there’s just nothing to indicate that’ll happen

Part of the issue is this team is just not fun. Youll never see a pitching gem because Rocco has to pull them early. You see a lot of guys striking out a lot and going through the motions but not playing hard nose baseball. Even the bad teams of the late 90s and early 2000s and the bad teams of the 10s at least had some fire once in a while. And why commit to driving to the ballpark Saturday night when Buxton and Correa will just be on unannounced, scheduled days off anyway. They can’t commit to you, so why commit to them. They should always be playing at home even if it means never playing on the road. Sounds like the stadium is doing a lot right for the fans but the team isn’t.

It’s not just old schoolers rolling their eyes, I think people are finally realizing things like OPS+ make the individual look great but not necessarily the team. Astros have had the fewest strikeouts in the league pretty much every year since 2016 and have dominated the league. Any guesses who had the fewest Ks in 2015? Word champion Royals, that’s who.

Any “blowing up” and “going into rebuild” needs to start with getting a new general manager. Falvey and Levine have done pretty much nothing in their tenure, continue to miss on talent, and haven’t even built a competitive farm system. One good season, that still ended in a playoff sweep. No hope for the future. Also, I’m over the rebuild cycle. Why are twins fans willing to accept sucking for the next 3-5 years while they rebuild, but then say “oh I’m glad twins drew a line in the sand at 10 years, there’s no way I woulda gone 13, those last 3-5 years of that contract would be brutal” Seriously, why be willing to suck now for a rebuild that never comes, but not be willing to suck a decade down the road for a chance to actually do something NOW? Besides, you’d have 10 years to figure out how to maneuver around that contract

I don’t think there’s anything “nonsense” about it. You are making a LOT of assumptions that the players A. See Rocco as a FO puppet and B. forgive Rocco for following through with their nonsense. the bigger issue last night wasn’t pulling Ryan at 107 pitches, it was leaving Moran in there to blow the no hitter when he couldn’t control his pitches. Rocco has some blame in that and I find it hard to believe the players dont blame him at least some

How is it “more than evident he gets along with his players and had their respect”?? Sonny gray was asked if he thinks the twins are still a great fit like he said in spring training, he gave a painfully long pause and said he wants to pitch deeper into games. just last night the reports are “Joe Ryan is not mad at Rocco for pulling him” not mad is pretty key wording. He’s not on board. He’s not thrilled with it. He doesn’t like it. But he’s going to publicly say he’s not mad at the manager. sorry I don’t think it’s more than evident at all that he’s good at personnel management. I think it’s very evident his pitching staff is bitter at the way they’re handled

Yeah maybe leave comedy to the pros

IKF has been bad for the Yankees, offensively. Didi has been putrid for the Phillies. according to the baseballtradevalues site, Correa is worth 14 “trade points”. That’s the exact same as Steer was. i don’t think we’d actually get THAT much value. But there’s not much reason to think you couldn’t get someone with 9-10 points of value on that site which are usually guys about ready to come up and contribute. I don’t have time, or really Inclination, to start putting together mock trades with actual names, but there’s no reason to think you would get absolute junk for him

Because you all got super defensive and reactive about it. All I ever said was *IF* there aren’t plans to get legit pitching, THEN they should get what they can for Correa. They got seemingly legit pitching. Which was the right call. But if they didn’t go that way, trading Correa woulda been the right call. Lots of upset reactions to a fairly non inflammatory comment