J_Dobs

I was playing around with this yesterday with Musgrove from the Priates. I noticed it would take a top 4 guy to complete that trade according to the site. But personally I am not the biggest fan of Thor, he is hurt almost every season, and his performance against above .500 team is not something I would expect in a "Ace"

I believe your right, it was more so top 50 guy. Just speculation based on what I saw.

This is the part that is frustrating for me, This was a year you know what you have and add to the team to make a play at a deep playoff run. I get prices were "high" for starters. but what the use of all these prospects? How many of these "top" guys we had 2 years ago are now below the top 10. With our current crop we are going to have issues like the Rays if we keep them all. Weeks before the deadline I was Ace or nothing. But after seeing asking prices I was ok with adding something being a upgrade. I would have been very happy if we would have gotten someone like Mike Minor, rumored price was a guy in the top 100 as the headliner. I was told by others that he screaming regression, but seeing him shutdown the Indians to the tone of 2 hits I would gladly welcome him to our rotations thats going to have 4 holes in it. This offseason should be interesting, but I doubt the prices of these starters comes down, it harder to trade when "everyone has a shot" in the offseason. With this front office welcome 3 more Perez/Pineda type signings Yuck.

I would be extremely upset. You can claim all you want that the "price was too much", but I know for a fact you can get Ian Kennedy pretty reasonable and all you need to do is take on the salary, and if we don't end up with anyone you didn't try at all in my opinion.

It looks like they had possibly backed down from that But the head scratcher to me is that it was the Mets winning this. Braves, Astros, Yankees, Boston, all were looking at Stroman. your telling me no one couldn't beat the Mets? It wasn't just us, everything as a whole just makes no sense. Ross Atkins must have been tired of the trade game?

I would LOVE Yates, but I doubt is on the move unless the Twins move Lewis or Kiriloff. Giles was reported last night still having elbow inflammation. Its not looking good, at this point I think we are going to have to settle for Ian Kennedy (who I actually really like, and assuming the Royals will trade to us), Shawn Kelley, Greg Holland (has now imploded). There is just nothing great out there. I've said this for weeks, I just don't see all that much action this deadline.

With hearing all the talks about the prices of the controllable relievers, or even the same fact for Smith. I have tempered my expectations a bit and had this exact thought on who I would target! Kennedy is really have a under the radar year. Elias looks like the missing LOOGY piece we need. I dream that we could get one now, just to free up the phones in case the price does comes down on the other elite arms as every claims "will happen".

Yates would be #1 on my trade list. I am thinking they will hang on to him if they are trying to upgrade the rotation mostly for next year. But if he is on the block, I have to think it would take one of Graterol or Balazovic, plus someone else in the 50 range.

I am glad I am not the only one, he would be a improvement over some, he would have the lowest K rate in our rotation... But if we are spending the prospects lets aim higher.

Man out of the list of starters you posted, I really only like Robby Ray. I mean I would love to have Bauer but no way the Indians throw away a race to us. I just don't believe Stroman is the guy, in his career he has not played well in Yankee stadium, and to be honest the road will more than likely go through them. For relievers I think anyone in the list will help one way or another, I just want to get a closer of some sorts just so we can move Rodgers into the fireman role much like Andrew Miller. Also I personally did not realize Rosario only has 2.5 years left with us, he is someone we need to lock up. He finds a way to impress me year after year.

I have been dreaming of getting Greinke for a long time. I wonder what this trade looks like, if you take the money off the books from the Diamondbacks I have to believe you could get a deal. Something Boston, Yankees, Astros cannot offer.

I agree on this, but at the same time the switch to the bullpen is not easy, and just to expect them to be great. But I think having Bumgarner in the playoff could be huge honestly. He been there done that, even if he is not the Bumgarner of old.

I would love to get him as well, always wanted him back from his brewer days... But the cost is going to be insane for a rent-a-pitcher. While contending teams are preforming bidding wars on Smith, I would personally talk Trevor Gott with the Giants and search for the ace reliever elsewhere.

Dang Gonzalez is such a important piece in our lineup and flexibility, hopefully Astudillio can stay hot... Another reliever Popper pass over Reed. I am starting to feel like this front office doesn't think much of Jake Reed, much like all the other "high talent arms" they gave away. I mean Poppen has been good from stat lines, but I just feel Reed needs a chance.

I have argued this personally for at least a month now... give Cave and a 45 overall prospect I feel this would be a no brainier for both sides. But not sure what other teams would be willing to offer.