I see what you are saying, but the original poster makes a lot of sense when they mention the Marlins and the Cardnials and all of the talent that they already have playing in the bigs. Part of that is often the Twins philosophy of keeping their young guys down to develop, whereas at least the Marlins didn't have much chioce but to bring the guys up and see if they can produce. It seems that the Twins will continue to bring on guys like Schaffer, and guys like that that seems to impede the prospects road to the big club. I think that the Twins are ready to shed all or most of the dead weight and they need to start considering bringing up the young guys to see if they can produce. I remember they held Morneau down for an extra year or so, because they had scrappy Doug Mienkiewich in the way. Who by the way pushed out David Ortiz who I think hit another 35 homers this year while Dougie is coaching A ball. In JR's defense, I feel that the scenario that I just described was a Tom Kelly and Ron Gardinhire ordeal and not really the fault of Ryan's. TK thought that Ortiz swung like a slowpitch softball player, and Dougie was the epitome of Gardy's battling his tail off. So when I see guys like Lirano doing a servicable job in Pittsburgh, not to mention Worley doing a better job in Pittsburgh than Pelfrey, or Swarzak or a slough of other rag arms that the Twins have drug out there on the hill, It occurs to me that Ryan had those guys in Minnesota and they were completely failing under the daily guidance of Gardy and Anderson. Not to metion guys like Gomez, Hardy, bla, bla, bla, bla, it goes on and on. It seems to me that Gardy was not getting the best out of the limited talent that he had; because by all accounts most of those guys are doing better now that they are on other teams than when they were with the Twins. So maybe a new manager will get more out of the talent that is presented. If the talent isn't there then it becomes JR's fault. JMO