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He is a solid pitcher who likely won't be out there throwing complete game shutouts every other start. However, if he can stay healthy and consistently give them 6+ innings while giving up 3 runs or so I call that a very good reliable pitcher. Many teams have built pitching staffs around guys with high 3 low 4 ERAs who stabilize the rotation. They can then be supplemented by bringing in the occasional Stud Ace to have around for a few years.

At this rate we may see the fastest Yankees game in the modern era. Louie doesn't mess around out there. He must have dinner plans somewhere nice. I hope someone told him there is another game after this one...

We should care. The team playing right now is likely much different than what a healthy playoff team might look like. Buxton, Polanco, Jeffers - possibly a healthy Mahle could be on that roster. That is a better team than they are throwing out there now. Just get in, then see what happens. Remember, there is a big difference between winging it and seeing what happens. Now, lets see what happens.

If Correa continues to have a down season for the remainder of the year and the Twins still make the playoffs and dare I say, Advance a round even with Correa playing below his standards will he not opt out? I'd take that as a Twins fan and hope years 2-3 are vintage Correa.

I wouldn't say he was a disappointment. Did he live up to the hype he was given by us fans and the media? Probably not. From 2013-2015 he was just destroying minor league pitching, hitting Home Runs at a rate we hadn't seen by a Twins player in decades. I think a lot of us hoped he would be the same guy in the majors as he was in the Low minors. There were some years where he was close to it, but ultimately, when healthy, he became a good power hitter who struggled to get on base and struck out a lot. Those types of players have become redundant in the the majors and in order to overcome that they have to be exceptional in the field which he was not.

That would be quite the pay cut...

I don't get why everyone was so worried about the bullpen. They look good to me....

I would have won a bet!

I'm "good" at pulltabs. Is that gambling or investing?

But, I'm a terrible gambler.

I'd put money on it.

These pages can be very frustrating to read. I keep reading, "Twins gave up a lot to get Mahle". But 2 days ago people were begging the Twins to be aggressive and make trades to make them better. It seems the only way people would truly be happy is if the Twins only traded office supplies for Mahle. Maybe we as fans aren't used to actually making meaningful trades at the deadline and giving up prospects. Yeah, it sucks the Twins won't be able to possibly get to see the prospects possibly become meaningful contributors to the major league club, but that isn't guaranteed. I seem to remember a few years ago when they Traded Palacios for Odorizzi people were upset. Well, Palacios didn't develop as fast as people thought he would, and is now back in the org but still in AAA. That's my long way of saying, I like the trade and while it stinks to give up prospects, that is what good teams do at the deadline. It's better than being on the other end of the deal.

6 Runs in July. 5 of them in three games in early July 1-4 (4 of them were Twins runs). Since July 4, 1 Earned Run. Not very concerned here.

Dyson was always a reliever, and if I recall the Twins were upset with San Francisco because they thought they may have hid an injury from them before the trade as well. This is different, a reliever on the upswing, whereas Dyson was known commodity who had likely reached his peak.

Good trade for both teams in my opinion. Stinks for Orioles fans to sell when the team is finally not awful. But realistically they weren't going to make the playoffs most likely and if they did would probably be out in wild card round. Now Orioles may have added a nice rotation piece for their improving team next year and beyond and Twins get what is needed for bullpen now and in future.

I like the trade. Povich was a nice prospect, but now Twins have another reliable pen arm (Jax, Duran, Lopez) back end. Was Cano on 40 man?

The Vasquez trade irks me. Twins need catching help badly and there was a one there for the taking. They Twins didn't make the move, which scares me they aren't going to do much today. I think the Twins are close to being very good but probably not this year. However, a few supplements for this year and a starter that is controllable for next year is worth giving up some prospects to get into the playoffs where anything could happen.

I disagree with a lot of this article. They signed Correa so they planned to win. Also, Correa was signed very late if I recall, so they were at a payroll of just over $100M when he signed. So Correa didn't eat into the budget, they had money to spend and were not getting the guys they were after, weren't targeting them or some other reason. Planning to fail was not the their plan.

You're right, the Twins don't have the pieces right now to guarantee them a world series. That is why teams become buyers though, to add the pieces to help them reach that goal of a World Series. I can count 3-4 teams in all of MLB who I would bet money on to win the World Series. So the other 26 should all be sellers then? Fill some holes, get hot and see what happens. No one is guaranteed to win it all but if you aren't even trying what's the point?

Brandon Warne Tweeted this so I had to go look it up: Brad Doolittle of ESPN suggested the Twins get in on Ohtani. Now I think he's being somewhat flippant with this, but the fact the took the time to write about during the last 5 days of the trade deadline is interesting. Will it happen? I'm 99.9% sure it won't, but wouldn't that be fun! Would it be worth it to give up Kiriloff and Royce for 2 years of ShoTime? The article is behind a paywall but a snippet is below. https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/34301870/shohei-ohtani-new-york-juan-soto-st-louis-mlb-trade-deadline-deals-see The Los Angeles Angels should trade Shohei Ohtani to the ... Doolittle: Why should big markets get to have all the fun? The Minnesota Twins are all-in after signing Carlos Correa. They need a No. 1 starter but also could use an everyday DH to plug into the middle of their lineup. This move, along with additional moves to deepen the bullpen, would make Minnesota a very dangerous team in the playoffs this season and next. Of course, the Twins need to get to the playoffs first, and with Ohtani on board, that would help them finally gain some separation in the AL Central race. After next season, when Ohtani hits free agency, then the big-market teams can get another crack. Minnesota has good depth in the pitching prospects the Angels need (Josh Winder for starters) but can also offer up near-ready position talent like Alex Kirilloff and the currently injured Royce Lewis from position groups where the Twins have decent coverage. Maybe they can expand the prospect pool just a little and get Noah Syndergaard from the Halos as well. I need to see this happen.

I was writing up a similar type of thing yesterday then my job got in the way I couldn't finish. But my hope was to go after a front line starter like Lopez from Miami and give up something like Steer, Larnach & Encarnacion-Strand. They need hitters Twins need pitchers and in my opinion good hitting prospects are somewhat disposable for the right pitchers in trades. That would get them a nice top of rotation take Bundy's spot for sure. Then I was hoping they would move on to the bullpen help and get two arms that are better than what they currently have, which if you read this message board shouldn't be too hard. But either or both Bard and Moore would be great and Nick laid that out nicely. If that would come to fruition it would hopefully stabilize the pen and rotation.

I would target Pablo Lopez in a trade with Miami. He is under control through 2024 could be a top of rotation type starter and we have a surplus of what Miami is likely looking for, Bats. I would lead with Larnach and Steer for starters. I would sting to trade Larnach but outfield bats are more replaceable than top end starters. If Miami wants more look to the lower minors for some of the exciting outfielders that are moving up the prospect rankings to give them additional future prospects. For fun I would offer them Sano and eat the rest of his contract. That gives Miami 2 young hitters and one who might find a spark with a change of scenery. Kiriloff and Miranda would be off limits unless they are blown away.

Who are the current 40 man roster guys that are on the bubble to be taken off to make room for the guys above, but would have value to other teams in a trade?

Boston’s first game out of the break was…..not so great. Unfortunately Eovaldi was part of the issue….

My reasoning is they are 16.5 games out of 1st and 2 out of the Wild Card and it's a crapshoot for the final wildcard spot with 7 teams reasonably within reach. They are likely to have to start a mini-rebuild/reload next year. The thought process is maybe they decide their World Series chances are minimal this year so they work toward next year early since Boegarts, Eovaldi and JD Martinez are out of the picture likely after the season. Longshot, probably...