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Twins 2023 Position Analysis: First Base
Trov replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The current FO has treated 1B as a not needed defender there. They will throw anyone over there. This has been a clear plan that outside of Sabato, who has not been good in minors overall, they have no one you would slot into 1B in minors. Over the last few years we have rotated several different people there. Personally, I do not like this plan, as a good defending 1B will save your team a ton of errors and extra bases. It is not so much about the stops they make, but the way they field bad throws from other guys. Sure, if a throw is good, just about any MLB talent should be able to play the position. However, when you have a bad defender there you notice it. However, clearly this FO feels you can live with a bad defender there in the long run as they have had no plan to address it. I would not be surprised at all if they give Julian some time there if he hits his way onto the roster and AK is not ready to play.- 41 replies
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I personally have little interest in the WBC. I also wish it was not during spring training. I am not concerned about injuries, they are not any more likely to happen than any other games, other than maybe a pitcher trying to throw more than arm is ready for. I would hope the pitcher would identify that issue before it becomes one. Unless the manager for the team does not care about that. However, there is really no good time to fit this in. Before season, you run risk of too much too soon. During the season, players will opt out to get rest normally to be ready for team. Post-season, you run into players being banged up and just ready for a break, so they will either opt out or not be healthy. I am glad it is only every 4 years.
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Twins fans 25th most annoying, 29th worst behaved
Trov replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
For me it is a combo of fans, players, and media for how I feel about a team. My dislike for teams change over years as well. I will always hate the Yankees, and it was a combo of things. One, their choice to go out and overpay for many FA just because they could annoyed me, but what annoyed me more is how national media overvalued some of their players. Mainly, Derek Jeter is one that national media raised his profile more simply because he played for Yankees. Do not get me wrong, he was a HOF player, but he made plays on defense that were raised in the eyes of the media simply because of playing for Yankees. He was graded out second half of his career as subpar defender but was still touted in national media as a top defender. His play in playoffs against Oakland national media talked about how no other player would have even thought of doing that, only Denny Hocking had a similar play prior to that in a normal game, not playoffs. Did anyone talk about how smart of a play Hocking did? No. How about the "play of the year" when the legend has it Jeter dove into stands to make a catch? Well, if you actually watch the play, he made a running catch, no different than any OF does. Then he chose to jump into the stands because he was on a full run, and not slide or something like that. He caught the ball on the run, then jumped into stands. It was not even a diving catch. Jeter is not the only player that gets put up higher because he plays well for the Yankees. That is one reason I hate them. The other reason, is Twins never beat them, even when Yankees are not a good team. I also do not like the entitled fans. I also hate Boston, because they did much of what Yankees did, but people loved them because they were the rivals of Yankees, I do not like either for much of same reasons. -
This prospect's loud contact is turning heads - only he is no longer ours.
Trov replied to h2oface's topic in Other Baseball
Would you rank Steer and CES above Lee, Lewis, Miranda, and Julien? They all basically played the same roll in minors. Some area of infield. Unless you moved some to OF, you could not play all 6 at a time. Now that we have CC for 6 more years, that really only leaves 3 spots, if none move to OF. Of the 4 we kept, who would you swap? One way or the other at least 2 or 3 were not going to be playing with Twins in the future. -
Not sure why you wish him ill will. It is not his fault he was left to the rule 5 a couple of years ago. Even if he does well, it has no effect on the Twins at this point. Now, if you are wishing this so you can defend the choice to leave him on rule 5, I personally do not think that choice needs defending at this point. Once in a great while a team will leave the wrong guy unprotected, but generally, they know what they are doing. In Baddoo's situation, he was young, not played above A ball, and had a lot of holes in game. In our organization he was ranked like 5th or 6th OF, and most likely would still be in minors for us, only making some games due to injuries from guys above. Unless you can go back and point to someone you would have left off the 40 man that year for Baddoo, there is no point in complaining he was left off it. It was him or someone else. I am sure every team wishes they could keep every player they wanted without worrying about 40 man rosters, years in organization, and service time. But those times are gone.
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The Twins Dark Horse Designated Hitter
Trov replied to Ted Schwerzler's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Very few teams want to slot a guy of his age into just DH roll. Twins even more since trading Cruz away have used DH as a way to give a normal starter a break in the field for the day while keeping bat in line up. I doubt Julien breaks camp to be a regular DH. Also, teams are unlikely to call up top prospects to ride bench. Unless they will be using Julien almost every day he will not break camp with Twins. As health continues to impact team he could break camp for that reason, but I find it very unlikely he breaks to DH. I know he is not a major defender, but I would bet if they wanted Julien to break camp, he would start at 2nd over Polanco and Polanco would DH more often.- 34 replies
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The problem with this model is Buck generally does not get hurt from fielding, but from hitting and running bases. Yes, he has had a few injuries from fielding, but over the years most of his injuries come from hitting and running. Look at last year, the knee came from the slide at second, DH would not stop that, only sitting, but if he is sitting he is not helping. Then later in year he hurt his hip again. The year prior he missed most of his time with hip issue after running bases. He has missed time from being hit by pitches, foul balls of foot, slides, and just running bases. No amount of DH will help that.
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This prospect's loud contact is turning heads - only he is no longer ours.
Trov replied to h2oface's topic in Other Baseball
CES was down the depth chart for Twins. He could very well turn into a star, but he has many flaws. He is mainly just a bat, as his defense is not good. He has struck out at a high level, not crazy, but it generally goes up as you face higher level pitching. If he stayed on the Twins, he would be like the 3 or 4th ranked 3rd baseman on our prospect list. I wish him all the best, but do not just compare how he does to Mahle for the Twins, but how does he do to other players we kept. -
Be Prepared for a New Look Twins Team
Trov replied to Ted Schwerzler's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The overall success of this team will come mainly down to the pen. However, timely hitting will be important too. Last year we did not have great timely hitting most of the year. Rocco leans on his pen a ton, mainly not allowing any starters, unless there is a huge lead, to go a full third time through order. This means he is normally asking minimum 3 but normally 4 innings from his pen every game. He also normally is only asking they do 1 inning at a time. So really looking at about 4 to 5 pitchers each game. If anyone struggles in a game it can blow up the whole game. Personally, not a fan of this plan, but they work the plan. That is why I believe it will come down to pen. It seems even if a guy is doing well, the second they allow 1 runner the third trip through the line up, they get the hook, unless the lead is huge. I am sure there is a little more to it, but sure seems to be the deciding factor.- 45 replies
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The Twins could still spend more and fans should demand it
Trov replied to Flyover Steve's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I do not like the comparing markets as a reason Twins should spend more. First, there is more than just the size of the media market, like is there other competing teams, not just baseball, but other sports in that area to draw money from. What is the TV deal like? What is the gate number like? Spending does not equal winning, it is the right spending. You point out Detroit, they have spent plenty over the last several years, how have they done? They spent on the wrong guys the last several years. Even the Padres, who the owner has basically said he does not care if he is losing money on the team, has spent poorly at times, example Hosmer. It is not like the Twins have acted like TB, Oakland, Baltimore, or Pittsburg and spend nothing, they are around league average each year. I also attack the premise that once a team makes the playoffs they cannot win. Very rarely does the clearly better team win every playoff series. It very often comes down to who is hot. Even the best made rosters do not win a WS. Both of the Twins WS wins they were underdogs at every round. Back to the Padres comparison. I hate how fans wanting the Twins owners to dip into their personal accounts to spend big because an owner has done so. Owning a team is a business, and it should not be expected by fans that the team operate at a loss. I do not know the exact numbers on how much the Twins make, but do not forget it is more than just MLB payroll that goes into the budget. Maybe they are making hundred million or more each year, or maybe they are making just a little. The Padres owner has basically said, he is losing money and does not care, he cannot take it with him and wants to win baseball games. Great for their fans, they have an owner that is find losing money in his business, do not expect any owner to lose money. Finally, I have said to fans all along, if you are upset at the spending, or lack their of, stop watching. Stop giving them your money in any way. Start watching teams like the Padres that spend money. Be fans of teams that will do that.- 61 replies
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Meet The New Ball. Same as the Old Ball?
Trov replied to Peter Labuza's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I say build a team that can hit line drives and hit them hard. The rest will take care of themselves. There will be power hitters always, but after 2019, everyone had power. Records were falling all over the place. Then yes, the ball became dead, and players were expecting same results. I remember a few balls early in year last year I thought were crushed, to be caught on the track. I agree MLB needs to stop changing it up and go with 1 type every game every year. It is hard to judge a player year to year when one year the ball is a super ball flying out, then next year it is like hitting a pillow. Guys like Mitch Garver get the years of but what if they hit like 2019. Outside of 2019, Mitch has done little at the plate power wise. He has had health issues, but even if you stretch out the games he has never been close to what he did in 2019. He was not alone, and it messed with many fans. We were thinking we had a huge HR hitting team, and doubled down on it, only to having wall scrapers. Players had to adjust. -
The Natural: Brooks Lee Is Special, and the Twins Know It
Trov replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
I would disagree the games at AA mean nothing. When in the past have you seen the Twins move a guy so quickly? The hype was big on Lee before the draft. Many said he could go number 1, and could not believe he fell all the way to us. I do not think anyone is trying to say he will be best in the game or HOF bound even, but he has shown that he clearly can handle himself very early on. Yes, he may be more advanced and not a lot left to learn, which is even more of a reason to move him faster. I am not reading from people saying he will be MVP or anything. He very well may be or may get overpowered when he makes MLB debut. I believe the hype for him though.- 50 replies
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Rumor: Gavin Lux out for season, Dodgers likely interested in SS
Trov replied to High heat's topic in Other Baseball
Dodgers will not give up any major talent for Farmer. I mean look what we gave up for him, nothing earth shattering. Just because they may feel they have more of a need, does not mean they will give away talent. They have someone that can fill in just as good as Farmer most likely. Now, if he starts failing and if Farmer puts up strong numbers, then maybe they would be willing to give up more for a the rental. -
The Natural: Brooks Lee Is Special, and the Twins Know It
Trov replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
It should not be a huge surprise he could crack soon. If he would have signed out of HS, he could have been high draft pick if his dad was not a college coach, he would be talked about ready to break with a team this year. If he lights up AA like he did every level after draft last year, he will be taking some at bats at MLB level this year.- 50 replies
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Trade Kyle Farmer To The Dodgers? Maybe With Kepler?
Trov commented on LA VIkes Fan's blog entry in LA Vikes Fan
Dodgers are not going to overpay for a guy like Farmer who will just be a little upgrade over what they have, if an upgrade at all. Could they have interest in Kepler, but gain will not overpay. There will be other options for them to improve without overpaying. -
Not saying you will be wrong, but I remember Brendan McKay, who was drafted around same time Ohtani came over and was expected to be a two way player. Rays have kept using him in minors that way, until 2021. They did not give him as much run as a two way guy, but really he did not hit as expected and been injured as well. He still could make it as a pitcher, but looks like hitting is behind him. However, that is part of the value of these guys, is if one does not develop, you hope the other does. Some guys will start as one, then after failing flip to the other. Normally it is failed hitter to pitcher, but some have gone from failed pitcher to hitter. Rick Ankiel is one of most famous to do it in recent years. I am sure there are more that switched in minors.
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2023 is a Big Season for Recent Top Picks
Trov replied to Ted Schwerzler's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Why does every say Cavaco is a complete bust at age 22? I am not saying he will be anything amazing, and I am not expecting anything at this point, but he is only 22. He still has plenty of room to grow and develop. He actually does not turn 22 until mid-season. There is a guy on our MLB roster that most are very high on, but really until his age 22 season was barely on anyone's radar. He was not a first round pick, but a second round so not like he came out of no where either. People need to remember he fully missed a year of baseball in 2020, at age 19. His numbers last year were not good, but he made some decent improvements. He still has only played in 187 pro games, had 758 plate appearances. Yes, he needs to improve, but say he should be written off because he did not come out blazing is crazy. Not every High School player will light the world on fire. Look how long it took Gordon to settle in. Cavaco has dealt with injures over his career. Sabato I am not as hopeful, as he was a college bat, 2 years older than Cavaco, and has more games and plate appearances as well. I will agree with both this is an important season to see some improvement, but to write off either, but more importantly a 22 year old with barely a seasons worth of games since being drafted is a little early.- 15 replies
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2023 is a Big Season for Recent Top Picks
Trov replied to Ted Schwerzler's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I will agree all three look to be ehhh at best, if Larnach can stay healthy he may produce, but the other two are not looking good so far. However, that does not mean they have not had some good picks in those drafts. Also, you need to always look at who else could have been drafted around them to really judge. Cavaco was a reach but there is no one after him that has lit it up in the majors as of yet. In 2018 we still had plenty of guys that have made majors, Larnach, Jeffers, Sands, Winder. In 2019 we have a few made majors and several used in trades for major league guys, or top prospects. Walner, Canentero, Steer, Varland, and a few others. It is still early to shut book on Cavaco, as he is only 22, and if he went to college would be his first year in full pro ball. He was drafted as a project and that has held true.- 15 replies
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Do the Twins Prefer Positionless Prospects?
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
So when a player is drafted, the team generally says what they are drafting them as. If you go by that standard, most HS guys will be drafted as SS, even when team fully expects they move off SS in future. If they are out of college, you will see more identified as the position they think they can stick at. However, out of HS most will be SS as you do not put your best player overall at 2nd base. If a team drafted a HS player at 2nd they better not be a high pick.- 50 replies
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My guess he was not highly touted at 16, but a low level signing, and he just developed very well. It happens. Maybe he becomes something great, or maybe he, like many pitching prospects, burns out quickly. Pitching prospects one of hardest to project and they will rise and fall very quickly at times.
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If you go by what teams are paying for WAR, bWAR has Ohtani averaging over 9 WAR last 2 seasons, his overall worth is 81 mil, as teams have been paying about 9 million per WAR to FA. So with contracts going, $50 mil a year does not sound crazy. Mainly because he is still only 28, turns 29 mid-season, and if ever needed, he can just go to either hitter or pitcher full time if he drops off doing one.
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Well at some point, if Mets wanted to spend more, and did not care if their team was losing money, they could out spend the Pohlads several times over. Pohlads worth in 2015, according to Forbes about 3.8 billion, that is using the value of the Twins. Steve Cohen is estimated to be worth 17.4. Even if you take out what the teams value is, Cohen could dip into his own worth and out spend the Twins any time he wanted to. So yes, at some point Pohlads could not spend as much as Cohen. Even if the Pohlads net worth jumped a bit in last 8 years, they still at best would be worth half of what Cohen is worth. Now, if you want to talk about just spending revenue from baseball, I would bet anything the Mets pull in much more money from baseball revenue than the Twins do. Just on TV money alone.
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That is what the service time manipulation issue has been about in the CBA. Players have been mad for years they get held down in minors for extra year or two, or in some cases even just like 2 weeks to add arbitration year of control. Twins were known for keeping the HS prospects down in minors until they were like 23, even if could have debuted sooner, mainly for keeping cost down.
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Pretty sure they fully plan to sign Soto to a similar type deal. They have a year or two. Based on the contracts they have been doling out, they have no issue paying guys late into career, and will spread out the money to help with any tax issues.
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I do not think it is as easy a channel surf, but Amanzon is trying to be a one stop hub for all apps. Rokue tv/devises allows for quick swapping of streamer, some remotes have the button the remote, but still have to have it logged in and pick what going to watch on the service.