
Mr. Brooks
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It's fair to speculate, and have opinions, we all do and should. But we have no idea where the Jays rank these guys. For all we know, the Jays have him as a top 50 prospect. Again, totally fair to have opinions and speculate, but far too many people across multiple threads are making declarative posts like, "the Twins could have easily beat that deal with prospects x and z".
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Of course, actual scouting services rate Kay as a pretty good prospect, not garbage.
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Yes, any team would be required to keep him on the 26 man roster for the entire season if they selected him in the Rule V draft.
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I'm hoping the current FO will be far more open to being more aggressive with guys like this. During our down seasons, I was all for conserving options and service time. But now that the window is open, that should all go out the window if you think a guy can help you now. And I do think that Graterol, if completely healthy, could help out of the bullpen this year.
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With 221 walks in 388 career milb innings, Clay has a long road ahead of him before he's on the radar for a MLB shot.
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The Jays didn't have to make this trade. Stroman isn't a FA. Yet they liked the package enough to make the trade. So I guess we can add their GM and scouts to the list of idiots who aren't as informed as the posters here.
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If they do it as their primary source of income, then they are professionals. Either way, they are much more plugged in than posters here who are literally just scouting stat lines. Kay has really good stuff. He's a legit good prospect. But hey, for some posters it fits their narrative to pretend like he's not a good prospect.
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Ah, so it's just all the professional scouts at MLB Pipeline and Fangraphs that are stupid. Good thing we have posters in here that have scouted these guys much more extensively. Also, when did mid 90's plus fastballs, to go with a plus curve and plus change become "soft tossers"?
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I'd be shocked if any of the 30 teams view Stewart as having even a remote chance of being anything but an absolute emergency only starting pitching option. We need to disregard his draft status. He's just not very good. If he manages 2 or 3 seasons as a fill in AAAA long relief option, while he's making the minimum and has options, that will be a pretty big success for him at this point, IMO.
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People who actually get paid to evaluate these prospects grade Duran as equal or lesser than the AAA pitcher that the Mets sent. So, no that doesn't "easily" beat it. It may very well have, we don't know how the Jays have these guys graded. The only pitching prospect we have who objectively, definitively grades out better, according to professional publications, not a poster's amateur opinion, is Graterol.
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Of course they could beat it. My point was to illustrate that in order to "easily" beat it, as you suggested, would almost certainly require sending Graterol or Balazovic, or even both, depending on how much value the Jays place on proximity to the majors. I'm ok moving one of those guys, but I'd prefer we aim a little higher than Stroman if we do. The Twins aren't going to gut their system, no matter how much some posters may want them to. Which means any deal involving one of their "big 3" (Lewis/Kirilloff/Graterol), is likely to be the only big time player acquired. If the deadline passes with nobody better than Romo acquired, I'll be right there with you questioning why they didn't try to top the Mets for Stroman. But if they passed because they know they only plan on firing one bullet from their big 3, and that 1 bullet is for a player they like more than Stroman, then I totally get it.
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Just out of curiosity, what would be your offer that would easily beat it?
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I mean there are trauma surgeons that work 30 hours straight in disaster zones. And they're saving lives. The human body can handle more than a late night 30 hours before a 3 hour baseball game. He would have been just fine.
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I think it's a near lock that Bauer is traded, if he isn't moved at the deadline.
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I tossed out Thorpe and Duran in the thread in the Other Baseball forum. Though the reality is, with guys in this tier, different teams are going to have vastly different opinions of them.
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Article: Twins Won't Rule Out Trading For Lance Lynn
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I'm not sure I have an answer to this or your previous post. I'm just assuming that 1.33 years of team control is going to cost more in prospects than 1 year of team control, theoretically. You may be right that these types of pitchers aren't traded often in the offseason, but they also aren't often traded to teams well below .500 at the deadline either. I just found it to be an unusual move. Not necessarily that I think it's bad or the wrong move. -
Article: Twins Won't Rule Out Trading For Lance Lynn
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Isn't that exactly what Brock is saying? Where did he give them credit for anything?
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That depends which source one uses. bWAR has him on pace for a 2.1 bWAR season. Fangraphs likes him less.
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Fair, if that's where you stand. Personally, I don't think it's reasonable to expect multiple arms as good as or better than Rogers. I think one guy on par with Rogers (hopefully pending), and another two a tier below (Romo + pending, or Romo + a current starter if we improve the rotation) is more realistic, and a pretty good upgrade to the staff.
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Article: Twins Won't Rule Out Trading For Lance Lynn
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Some guys aren't open to extensions. And even if they are, that is completely separate from the timing of the trade. Why not trade for a player in the offseason, rather than at the deadline, and then extend him? You still get the same end result, but without paying the prospect premium for the 1/3rd of season that you aren't contending.