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This is an odd take. How many "superstars" do you think there are in the MLB? If it's more than 5-10, Correa is one of them. He had the 23rd highest WAR in baseball among position players - essentially the same WAR as Juan Soto, Lindor, Carlos Rodon, and Altuve. Are those players superstars? He's not Judge or Ohtani, but he's right there in that next group and plays a super-premium position.

It's temping to see a correlation here, but the best evidence indicates there likely isn't one. Injuries are way up among pitchers, but it's likely due to the fact that pitchers are throwing (on average) quite a bit harder than they used to. Almost hard to believe, but as recently as the 1980s the AVG fastball velocity was somewhere between 84 & 87MPH. 200 innings with a 92-96 mph fastball is a LOT more stress on the arm & elbow than 200 innings sitting 84-87mph. Huge amounts of torque in the delivery nowadays, more than ever.

100% awesome and useful if that's what it is. And agree with the previous poster: it's useless if it's any version of user generated speculation. Thanks all for everything you do on this site - incredible content.

Not really much to talk about; is what it is. I think we've all collectively had our fair share of COVID and Vax conversations over the past 2+ years. Not worth more energy or ink at this point.

I'm always surprised at how much sentiment shifts, even subtly, based on one or two games. Twins offense has been fine this year; they're 11 in MLB in OPS. Keep in mind that scoring & offense in general is way down in the MLB this year; it's all compared to what. Pitching has been great; 6th lowest ERA in MLB.

Oh got it - I just misunderstood. I agree, he's more likely to hit the market than sign an extension during the season.

Unless he gets hurt or falls off a cliff in the 2nd half, I think it's extremely unlikely that he plays beyond 1 year under the current deal. The option years are in there to protect him in case he's injured or underperforms, really nothing more. He'll look for an extension for the same reason players always do: short deals are very risky. Bad injury during a 1 or 2 year deal and your market value takes a nosedive. Assuming he stays healthy & plays well, he'll be looking for his 7-10 year deal after this year.

Fair point as I said above. Maybe I'm starting with a flawed assumption about the return we'd get. And to be clear I'd love if we signed Correa to a long-term deal. Seems extremely unlikely given our history, but maybe I'm wrong there too. But it would be a bummer if he played out his final 3 months, we got nothing in return, and he signed a big extension elsewhere. But hey, it could be worse. We could have not signed him in the first place

Fair. I'm not suggesting trading him for peanuts... if it's not the right offer, I'd rather hang on to him.

I guess we just disagree. My assumption is that whoever traded for him would do so in hopes of signing him long-term. If they didn't, then yes I think trading much for him would be incompetent. 3mo of any position player isn't worth much, contender or not. Correa posted a 7.2 WAR in 2021, the highest of his career. So at best, 50-60 games of Correa is worth ~2-3 wins against replacement. If you can get back a meaningful haul, you trade 2-3 wins for it every time.

Strongly disagree. They need to either extend him prior to the deadline or trade him. They'd be absolutely nuts not to trade him IF they don't expect him back next year. Laying it out this way helps clarify the decision: What would you rather have? 1) 3 months (at most) of Carlos Correa or 2) Whatever haul of big-time big leaguers & prospects you'd get for him No competent front office in the league would choose the former. Again this is IF they don't expect him back next year. If they plan to extend him, hang on to him for sure.

Not to be nitpicky, but Royce Lewis isn't 20. He's 22, turning 23 in June.

Lol. Editors, please make a note to never call start "impressive" until the pitcher clicks from 4 2/3 innings to 5. TwinsDr you've made this bizarre point like 7 times in the thread now; it makes no sense, and no one cares.

As a clarification, I don't think it's actually pronounced "moron." Same vowel sounds, but emphasis on the second syllable rather than the first. I believe it's pronounced "mo-RAHn," not "mOHR-on" (like moron).

Twins generally not punishing Urena enough for his lack of control so far... Far too many swings at marginal pitches, given how wild he's been.

Ya'll are weird - Badoo was blocked in the system and left unprotected for a reason. Garlick has nothing to do with Baddoo and--given his history in the minors--Baddoo likely won't look all that great the rest of the year. For his sake I hope he ends up being a useful player, but odds are against it. But the small sample size drama is always entertaining

Not true in this case. They needed to test Buxton for COVID before disclosing the reason he left the game. Saying "left game with illness" without having that clarity would have created a lot of unnecessary drama.

Lotta angsty energy on this board after one of the more fun & interesting victories of the year. Not everything always goes according to plan in baseball. While they're seemingly yet to hit a real stride, the Twins are winning games and I'm having fun. If this thread is what we get after a almost no-hit, walk-off W, I'll take it as a reminder not to be hang around after a loss

Sounds like you'd be a great fit on Manfred's staff! It's ironic that's baseball's most hardcore fans are the ones seemingly most intent on driving the final stakes in to its long-term viability coffin. On its current trajectory, I expect the MLB to be about as popular as the NHL in 20-30 years. The sport will be a niche in no time unless they figure out how to appeal to the next generation.

It's not really a "problem," as no one in the thread or article is suggesting we should pay him like an ace, or that he'd demand it. 5/60 is middle of the rotation money, and probably right around what Berrios deserves at this point. Maybe a bit more if you're willing to be on his age & remaining upside.

Darren Wolfson says MLB Network is now "loosely" planning on a 2PM Central press conference - no indication that anything is up, just that the timing of the press conference is "fluid."

Yes I did. The second (in particular) indicates that usage/volume is a contributing factor to injuy in pitchers. Of course injuries can happen for other reasons, but it's both logical--and proveable--that more usage increases the likelihood of injury. And this would make particular sense for someone without a ton of usage in recent seasons.

Oddly it looks like the press conference is no longer happening. Anything to worry about here? Seems very odd to schedule if any potential hiccups remained..

This isn't really an "in my opinion" question - given his lack of extended work, he's far more likely to to have arm issues starting & racking up innings over the course of the year. There have been actual studies to this end, and luckily the Twins don't need to rely on your apparently un-researched opinion. Two examples of recent studies: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6350667/ and http://harvardsportsanalysis.org/2016/01/predicting-pitcher-injuries/

Your best overall hitters should be at the top of the line-up - on base percentage is one component of "best," but not the only one. Being at the top of the line-up means you get substantially more at-bats over the course of the season than someone further down. And the goal should be to get the most possible at bats for your best overall hitters over the course of the season. Blindly plugging the player w/ the highest OBP in to the #1 slot--regardless of other factors--makes no sense at all, and would almost certainly produce fewer total runs over the course of the season than a more optimal line-up.