DaveW

Seems like he should have been in the 7th than with a couple runners on

His stats that year were pedestrian, and I’m hardly the first person ever to complain about how baseball writers vote. We can agree to disagree though. In general i think a lot of closers are over rated, there are some elite ones, a few more great ones and then a lot of meh ones, when you are stuck with a meh one you should look to upgrade the position. Reed has the potential to be much better than Rodney iMO. I just hope he doesn’t cost us too many more of these games.

Baseball writers often miss the mark on those votes, it’s gotten better over the last few years because a lot of the problem voters were dying off. But don’t forget it wasn’t too long ago that colon got the Cy young over Santana.

Yeah catcher is a position I think they need to figure out how to upgrade in the mid to long term.

Yeah sometimes bats take a little time to come around, especially to breaking stufd

IMO Colome wasn’t that good last year, poor K rate, poor K/BB rate, a pretty meh ERa for a RP/Closer Just goes to my point about saves being not a good stat to judge by.

Rosario is a frustrating player to watch at times. I hope he steps up this year in a big way.

Also besides that: not sure what Rodney did 4 years ago has to do with him now anyways, since he had one awful season, one ok and one average or below average (generous) since then. He’s 41 and the Twins have better options for closer and high leverage situation guys. He should be a 6th inning guy to start the season.

Rodney: shouldn’t be closer or in high leverage. Wasn’t even a 1.0 WAR pitcher last year. Needs to be a middle innings guy until h proves himself at age 41. 0-1 so far this year. molitor : still makes a lot of bad decisions by not managing based on situation or deviating from his plan.

Oh so I’m wrong and unable to make my case why a 41 year old ‘shaky at best’ Over the last few years, and a guy who had a 0.3 WAR last year isn’t the guy we should have in high leverage situations. Ok I can see you don’t value any opinions other than your own. Have fun this season Brock. I will check back in with you when Rodney inevitably fails like he did with my Mariners

Oh so I’m wrong and unable to make my case why a 41 year old ‘shaky at best’ Over the last few years, and a guy who had a 0.3 WAR last year. Ok I can see you don’t value any opinions other than your own. Have fun this season Brock.

2.85 era isn’t outstanding for a closer. Also 1-6 record. He blew a lot of close games his whole tenure in Seattle. Like I said I’m a M’s fan, I saw it firsthand.

Also if Rodney is so great, why did he throw a meatball to Jones and lose this game?

I watched him pitch in about 40 games in 2014, it was far from outstanding.

Reardon wasn’t a good pitcher in 1987. There is a reason why they didn’t win 90 game even in the regular season ya know....

Lolol outstanding 2014? No Good 2016? No. Pretty bad 2017 as well! 4.35 ERa for a closer is very bad.

Mid season, lol. If we let that dude close til mid season we will be 12 games back. He on his own destroyed the last decent season for the mariners. Also he is 41, his age more than likely will catch up.

Your wife could hit one out, yet none of the twins power hitters could today. Just stop it Brock, Rodney is a terrible choice as closer.

lol I watch a ton of Seattle Mariners games (Seattle is number 2 team) And that was so typical, get ready for another 10 of those this year from Rodney.

Good point! The MLB uses several of the top legal minds, lawyers etc, and by all accounts it was very thorough (they interviewed over 20 people) I applaud the MLB for doing a thorough investigation and putting this matter to bed for once and for all. Re: Sano in the lineup, I hope he has 45 HR and this is a huge 'breakout' year for him!

I think this is an issue and has to be taken with a huge grain of salt, it's just a random account of a random twitter user (not a reporter etc) and his conversation with a head usher. I'm not saying it can't be considered, but I also think it's a little unfair to Sano for people to bring up the 'Chattanooga issues' as truth/gospel.

I guess time will tell, I disagree but it's not worth arguing over I suppose.

It was a random tweet IIRC, seemed pretty loosey goosey with plenty of hearsay attached at the time IMO

What is there to protest though? A girl made an accusation on social media, there was zero proof, MLB did a thorough investigation (and let's be clear, do you think if MLB THOUGHT that this happened or even was a decent chance of have happened they WOULDN'T have suspended Sano?) and they found zero evidence. Additionally there were never any criminal charges filed. I'm all for the #metoo movement, but protesting a guy where there was literally zero evidence and zero pattern of behavior is just silly and honestly hurts the movement as a whole.

Very well stated, there was no proof whatsoever that any assault occurred. It was literally twitter vs facts/proof. That isn't to say that nothing did happen, it very well may have, but again no proof, and without proof you can't just take away a guys livelihood (especially for something years prior) when he has no means to defend himself more or less. People bring up the minor league ballpark workers and are shaming Sano, while yes, maybe he was a bit creepy/unprofessional in some cases, it's important to note that he was still a young kid, basically the same age as a kid in college. It's also important to note that pro (and even college players) have women throwing themselves at them left and right, and like most people have good/fair/harmless intentions, of course some do not (a small minority), it can sometimes be tough especially for a young man who is from a different culture to know what is 'right' and what approaches 'the line' sometimes. I think the key in moving fwd is educating all young athletes about both sides of the coin, as relationships, sex etc are rarely black and white and have lots of shades of gray in between. Also the key is that he was a young man when this happened, people mature, people grow. Look at Molitor for instance, when all the news of his rampant cocaine use (including during games) came out it seemed to be an eye opener for him and he cleaned his act up, became a role model and eventually a hall of famer. I'd hate to see what twitter/internet culture would have said about Molitor if he was playing in 2017 and got busted for using blow and having it on his person during a game. Basically, I'm all for (and yes happy) that Sano is getting a second chance, even though he very well may not have done anything 'illegal'/'wrong' in the first place. Hopefully he is able to learn from this, and hopefully his accuser finds peace.