tony&rodney

All three but the no, the Marlins won't waste their time. There are players that teams will not trade ... one example from the last decade - Trout.

Is this realistic - Arraez, Larnach, Kepler, Martin, Canterino, and Miller for Cabrera and Luzardo? Martin, Canterino and Miller do not need to be placed on the 40 person roster yet.

Miami has stated very specifically that they will not even discuss Alcantara. Thus an offer of Ryan, Ober, Duran, Miranda, Lewis, and Lee just isn't heard because .... click.

I saw a Miami paper saying much the same earlier this offseason. Again, every article has stated that Eury Perez and Sandy Alcantara are NOT available.

That would be a real coup. From reading various sites both national and local the Marlins seem to have voiced a clear veto on any discussions of Alcantara and Perez. Miami wants a ton for any of Lopez, Cabrera, and Luzardo as well. While I agree that Cabrera has enormous upside, the Marlins have indicated that a bat that works could be the ticket for him. An AL batting title is a worthy match for Cabrera. In any event, the Twins and Marlins are a decent match and I'm hoping for a deal between them. Some combination of players should work. Let's focus on a deal for Cabrera and hope to widen the deal to include Luzardo.

Enjoyed the video. I believe the two teams match up reasonably well. The Marlins should be looking a sure bat and an emerging hitter. I'm keen to add Cabrera to the Twins team but also nearly as hopeful for Luzardo. Both carry huge upside and also risk, as do all young pitchers. A trade for Luzardo and Cabrera? How about Arraez, Larnach, and Kepler? The extra player does create a small issue for the Marlins. Can the Twins take back Soler? There should be a match and it seems like a good gamble for both teams to make.

Those of us who include either Miranda or Arraez in any trade ideas are huge fans of both Twins guys too. The idea is to ask yourself what Miami would accept or ask for from the Twins in exchange for their players. There is a disagreement, to be sure, about the value of any of Lopez, Cabrera, Luzardo, or Fulton and no player is guaranteed to star. Arraez is the closest player of any to a sure thing. Still, the Twins have a glut of corner players and could use a starting pitcher with upside. I believe that both Pablo Lopez and Edward Cabrera would be better than any of the Twins current starters. I am hoping the Twins acquire Cabrera, and wishing they add Jesus Luzardo on in a larger deal. Trades are toughest when trying to gain both talent and years, So I suggest the Twins gamble in a massive trade. If the Twins can get Cabrera without losing Miranda or Arraez, great. Miami wants to compete now and thus they are looking hard at who gives them the best bats. Arraez just won an AL batting title which is an attention getter. Kepler and Polanco are great players with less years of control and more cost, so some combination of now and ready players is what Miami needs and the Twins need a guy like Cabrera.

Baseball players work extremely hard to excel at their jobs and as shown years ago they would play for nearly nothing to stay in the game. Free agency changed the money but these athletes still had to earn their way up through the system. In ten years Correa would most certainly be thrilled to still be playing baseball and bringing home $10 million would just be an added bonus/treat.

The Marlins may be interested in a player for now (Kepler, Arraez types) and some guys who are pre-arb too (Miranda, Larnach, Kirillof, Martin types). They may be interested in an A ball player but that is too far down the road because Miami is building their team for this year and the next few seasons. Finally, if the Twins can only protect one player, it should be Emmanuel Rodriguez. The Twins should not listen on him.

It is a solid gamble at the correct time for the Twins because of the number of young players and health risks.

Correa on the team means less angst about shortstop and allows the players like Lee, Lewis, Martin, and Julien to hit/earn their way into the lineup instead of being given a slot. Still, health is needed as everyone has pointed out.

Something was amiss on the medical front, for sure. Correa should be good for all of six years. It is a gamble worth taking at this point with interest in the Twins waining.

I have been irritatingly consistent about the Twins finding a way to acquire Edward Cabrera. I also like Dax Fulton and some of the others, but an expanded trade should aim for Jesus Luzardo. What does Miami get in return? Offer Arraez or Miranda, Larnach or Kirilloff or Kepler, Winder, and Pagan. Does Celestino have value for Miami? Martin? Miami should find a trade that brings in Miranda, Larnach, Martin, and Winder for Cabrera and Luzardo worth consideration.

Agree .... and my hope is that the Twins can make a trade for a starter like Edward Cabrera or Jesus Luzardo using players already on the expected 26 person roster.

Christian Vasquez cannot be traded until June 15. Plus, for the next year or two, Vasquez is a better option for the Twins at catcher. This is especially true with our young starters.

Bauer may get another chance in baseball, but it is really hard to see it. He has had more than 10 years of substantial issues in increasingly more complicated manners of behavior. The resume is out there for all teams to consider and it seems nearly impossible that an employer is looking to test their luck at this time. Maybe if he can somehow prove that his can adjust over the next ten years, then someone might say ok. It's none of my business and I don't care if someone wants to employ Bauer but my belief is he is done with baseball.

Trade Sonny Gray to San Diego for Dylan Lesko if you think San Diego is a good trade partner.

Sale doesn't seem likely and would be pretty much outside of the box for Falvey. Let Falvey concentrate on prying loose Edward Cabrera from the Marlins, a gamble worth taking.

Arraez or Miranda, Kirillof or Larnach, and Kepler for Cabrera and Luzardo should work for both teams. Perhaps add a Cavaco or Celestino from our side. That should help the Marlins with offense and strengthen the Twins pitching staff. It sure seems like the Twins will not move on anything until the entire Correa saga comes to a definitive end.

MLBTradeRumors has a post saying that Miami is listening on Lopez, Rogers, Luzardo, and Cabrera. They want bats and years of control. This is an opportunity for the Twins to pick up a guy (Cabrera) with massive upside. albeit a gamble. What is needed to complete this for the Marlins? Larnach or Kirilloff and Kepler for Cabrera. Add Ober and Martin going south with Miami sending Luzardo north? Hard to know what will work but there should be a match for at least Cabrera.

You make a good point but I would argue that the Twins ceiling could easily be $175M. Given their current roster I would make trades which actually brings the cost down. Large long terms contracts will always need a long term evaluation. Signing Correa without any other moves doesn't push the team far enough to justify the cost. Hopefully there are other ideas or moves to come in the near future. I also agree with what you argue about the value of the back half of large contracts. However, don't teams sign these contracts with this expectation because the front half balances out the deals in the teams' favor? The Hosmer and Hayward deals were totally panned immediately and who knew the mess of a situation that Cano would fall into. All of the other deals, like Mauer's, were a plus for the teams. I am generally opposed to large long term contracts because of all of the points you have argued in other posts. There is a time though and one deal I would have gambled on this winter is making an attempt on Carlos Rodon. I'm still quite ambivalent about Correa.

The Twins could use a player who hits for average and has power but also has a high on base percentage and might steal some bases. Julien is that guy and he can be moved around the infield (1B, 2B) when he isn't the DH. Put him in the lineup.

The professional baseball career of Trevor Bauer has likely ended. He has had a troubled existence as chronicled by many throughout his time from UCLA until the latest flare while employed by the Dodgers. Public entities such as the Twins are unlikely to proceed with a case such as Trevor Bauer. That said, I do wish him well on his journey through life. He has enormous wealth to buffet him from many trials. There is hope that he can accomplish positive things with his life as he seems to possess a reasonable intellect. Many people have reconstructed their lives after falling into the pit of despair after making poor choices and/or struggling with addictions of sorts. My belief is that Bauer is finished with MLB. Of course, I may be wrong and I will not question if a team chooses to sign Bauer. I do not wish the Twins to sign Bauer. An aside - did I see a reference to Colin Kaepernick in the comments? CK was blackballed and successfully sued the NFL for a ton of bread. The NFL admitted wrongdoing and paid up. CK protested racism in a quiet fashion. Trevor Bauer has some serious issues with judgments that endanger people, even if those activities are supposedly consensual. I get that fan bases have strong thoughts and opinions on players but those two should never be compared on any level.

Solid report these five are important to any success possible for the Twins in 2023. Most people would agree that Buxton and Polanco will produce given good health, and all of Kepler, Gallo, and Vasquez could surprise us with their performances. Arraez will hit. That leaves one guy who is not spoken for - Nick Gordon. He also needs to prove himself, although his case is different. Gordon had a fine year last year and seems capable of even better numbers, yet because he faced so many challenges and took such a slow path to regular work he will need to prove he belongs in the lineup on a daily basis. As far as those in the post, they each have different expectations. Jeffers should be able to relax as a backup to Vasquez and hopefully he is able to improve his at bats as well as his blocking with Vasquez as a tutor. I see Ryan as the perfect #4 guy for our starting rotation and his consistency would be welcome there. He can develop without the pressure of being a top guy. Ober fits right behind Ryan as a #5. Hopefully Ober remains healthy. There really isn't any reason to be so careful with the big guy any longer. Either Ober is ready to handle a full load or he gets replaced by another potentially positive starter, Varland. The Twins and their fans should have a good idea of where Kirillof stands by June 1. It would be optimum for the team and their fans if Kirilloff can replicate his Saints run last season in MLB starting in April, but a little patience may be necessary to allow for the rust to be removed. Either way, We should have an answer on Alex by June. With Gallo, Kepler, Gordon, Garlick, and Wallner available to play corner outfield and the potential to throw Celestino and Kirilloff into the mix, it is difficult to see where Trevor Larnach fits with the Twins. I expect him to open the year in St. Paul if he is not used a piece in a trade. Perhaps the Twins move several other players to open an option for Larnach as well. Larnach seems ready to get regular at bats and it may need to happen with another team. If he begins in AAA, I sure hope he rakes to force his way into a regular lineup spot for someone.

This reads similar to an article about Royce Lewis just a few years back. One side comment - errors at the minor league level are not solid indicators of whether a player can actually succeed at a position. Lateral movement, reads, hands, reflexes, release, and arm are better indicators of future competence.