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  • Twins Minor League Report (5/7): Berrios On The Brink


    Cody Christie

    The tryout period is over. Minnesota's new front office has busy over the last few days. Buddy Boshers and Kyle Gibson were both optioned to Rochester. Danny Santana and Michael Tonkin were both designated for assignment which means they could end up in different uniforms before the end of the week.

    With new faces heading to Rochester, a few names had to be added back to the big league squad. Infielder Ehire Adrianza and relief pitcher Justin Haley were both reinstated from the 10-day disabled list. Haley pitched one scoreless inning in Rochester while striking out two. Adrianza was hitting .310/.383/.357 in 42 minor league at-bats this season.

    Even with all the roster moving and shaking. There were still games to be played. SPOILER ALERT: There were some great performances on Sunday afternoon.

    Image courtesy of Betsy Bissen, Bitzy Betsy Photography

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    RED WINGS REPORT

    Rochester 3, Pawtucket 1

    Box Score

    For the second straight Sunday, Jose Berrios was on the mound as he continued his masterful start to the season. The only trouble he faced in the game came with two outs in the top of the first. He allowed back-to-back doubles that pushed across the lone Pawtucket run of the game. Berrios pitched 6.2 innings while allowing one earned run on six hits. He struck out four and walked none. Minnesota could call him up to make his next start at the big league level.

    Rochester responded quickly in the bottom of the first. Zack Granite and JB Shuck led off the inning with singles. Tommy Field drove in both runners with his eighth double of the season. Rochester wouldn't trail for the rest of the game. Granite created the next run for the Red Wings as well. He started the third with a single, stole second, and Field drove him him with a single.

    With little margin for error, the bullpen played an important role in this game. Buddy Boshers relieved Berrios in the seventh. He was able to strand a runner at second while keeping Rochester up two. Trevor Hildenberger allowed one hit during his inning of work but a big strikeout helped him leave a runner in scorning position. Alex Wimmers struck out the first two batters of the ninth before a walk and a single put the tying run on base. A groundout ended the threat and Wimmers earned his third save.

    CHATTANOOGA CHATTER

    Chattanooga 4, Pensacola 2 (Game 1- seven Innings)

    Box Score

    Nick Gordon started this game with a bang for the Lookouts. His first inning triple put Chattanooga in position to tie this game in the early going. Engelb Vielma drove him in with a single. From there, the team's bats went cold until a big sixth inning.

    In that sixth frame, all the damage was done with two outs. Jonathan Rodriguez singled and was followed by a LaMonte Wade double. Travis Harrison plated two runs with a single. He wasn't on base very long as the next batter, Ryan Walker, tripled to score Harrison. Gordon ended the game 2-for-3 with two extra-base hits and a run scored.

    Kohl Stewart started for Chattanooga but couldn't make it out of the fifth inning. In 4.2 innings, he allowed two earned runs on seven hits with three strikeouts and two walks. He has a 5.63 ERA for the season. Todd Van Steensel earned his third victory out of the bullpen. He didn't allow a base runner over the last 2.1 innings while striking out two.

    Chattanooga 3, Pensacola 2 (Game 2- eight Innings)

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    For the second straight game, Nick Gordon helped the Lookouts get off to a fast start. He led off the first inning with a walk. Levi Michael and Edgar Corcino followed with singles put Chattanooga out to an early 1-0 lead.

    Ryan Eades got the start and didn't run into any trouble until the top of the fifth inning. A pair of singles and a triple pushed across a pair of runs as Pensacola took a 2-1 lead. That lead would be short lived as Chattanooga used a Jonathan Rodriguez double and a fielding error to tie up the game in the bottom of the frame.

    After Eades exited, the bullpen put up zeros the rest of the way. John Curtiss pitched two scoreless innings and he has yet to allow a run this year. Nick Burdi saw two base runners reach against him but put the team in position to win.

    This game headed to extra-innings as it was scheduled to be two seven-inning contests. In the bottom of the eighth, Corcino lead-off with a walk. Jonathan Rodriguez followed with a single that moved Corcino all the way to third. LaMonte Wade got to play the hero with a walk-off single over an outfield that was playing in.

    MIRACLE MATTERS

    Fort Myers 6, St. Lucie 0

    Box Score

    Fort Myers and starting pitcher Dereck Rodriguez found themselves in the middle of quite the pitchers duel. Rodriguez had limited the Mets to two hits in seven innings of work but the offense didn't decide to show up until the last two innings. Rodriguez didn't allow a run and struck out three on the way to his second victory.

    St. Lucie removed their starter in the eighth and Fort Myers was able to break through. With one out, Max Murphy was hit by a pitch. Nelson Molina cracked a two-run shot. Two batters latter Zander Wiel knocked his third home run of the season, a two-run shot that pushed the lead to 4-0.

    In the top of the ninth, Fort Myers was able to add some insurance runs. Max Murphy started it again with a single to center. Nelson Molina doubled and Murphy came all the way around to score. Chris Paul followed Molina's double with a single to add one more run.

    Williams Ramirez replaced Rodriguez and allowed one runner in both of his innings of work. In the eighth, a batter reached with a one out walk. In the ninth, a batter reached with a one-out single. Over two shutout innings, he struck out three.

    KERNELS NUGGETS

    Cedar Rapids 4, Fort Wayne 1

    Box Score

    Clark Beeker won his fourth consecutive start on Sunday after tossing six strong innings. It was his fourth quality start as he limited the TinCaps to one earned run. He retired eight straight batters at one point in the contest and he allowed only one runner to get into scoring position. Beeker struck out six and walked one.

    The first big hit of the game came in the second inning off the bat of Christian Cavaness. Travis Blankenhorn and Ariel Montesino reached base with walks before Cavaness belted a two-run double. In the fifth frame, Aaron Whitfield led off the inning with a single and scored on a Lewin Diaz one-out double. Blankenhorn brought in Diaz with a two-out single to push the lead to 4-0.

    Max Cordy took over for Beeker and pitched three scoreless innings. He struck out three and walked one. It was his longest outing of the season and he leads the team with three saves.

    TWINS DAILY PLAYERS OF THE DAY

    Pitcher of the Day – Dereck Rodriguez, Fort Myers Miracle (7 IP, 0 ER, 2 H, 3 K)

    Hitter of the Day – Nick Gordon, Chattanooga Lookouts (2-for-5, 2B, 3B, 2R, 2 BB)

    MONDAY’S PROBABLE STARTERS

    Rochester @ Lehigh Valley (6:05 CST)- TBD

    Chattanooga @ Montgomery (7:05 CST) - TBD

    Fort Myers vs. Palm Beach (5:35 CST) - RHP Cody Stashak (0-3, 4.00 ERA)

    Cedar Rapids @ Dayton (6:00 CST)- RHP Eduardo Del Rosario (2-1, 3.04 ERA)

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    Berrios just keeps using up those bullets in AAA. Not a huge fan of that right now.

     

    Honestly, what's the deal, here? Are they just praying he throws a clunker so they have excuse to hit some beneficial service time bench mark?

     

    There can't possibly be anything he can do in AAA to become a better pitcher, that he can't do in the MLB while simultaneously helping a pitching staff going down like the titanic. Is there? Honest question.

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    Anyone have thoughts as to what the next step should be for Stewart and when that should take place? What he is doing now isn't working. He has a WHIP of 2. He had a 1.47 last year at AA that through smoke and mirrors (as far as I can tell) translated to a 3.03 ERA. He simply isn't effective and has not been at AA really at all.

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    Anyone have thoughts as to what the next step should be for Stewart and when that should take place? What he is doing now isn't working. He has a WHIP of 2. He had a 1.47 last year at AA that through smoke and mirrors (as far as I can tell) translated to a 3.03 ERA. He simply isn't effective and has not been at AA really at all.

     

    He's just not very good. They'll keep throwing him out there but it is what it is.

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    It's time to see what Berrios has to offer the major league team.  Tepesch honestly looked terrible. No need for him to throw another pitch in the majors.

     

     

    Oh no....Tepesch is obviously the most qualified.  We can work with him so he can be a nice pitcher with an ERA in the 6.00 range.  We can't bring up anyone the coaches actually have to work with. 

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    Anyone have thoughts as to what the next step should be for Stewart and when that should take place? What he is doing now isn't working. He has a WHIP of 2. He had a 1.47 last year at AA that through smoke and mirrors (as far as I can tell) translated to a 3.03 ERA. He simply isn't effective and has not been at AA really at all.

    Barring an injury or mechanical thing, just let him continue. He's young and he's already dominated the low minors. Even if he has to repeat AA next year, he'd be young for the level.

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    He's just not very good. They'll keep throwing him out there but it is what it is.

    I don't disagree that he isn't very good. But at what point do you think they bump him from the rotation? In favor of whom I have no idea. But to continue to run him out there getting hammered and/or showing no strike zone command seems silly.

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    He's just not very good. They'll keep throwing him out there but it is what it is.

     

     

    Having watched him at Ft Myers, Stewarts has very good control of his fastball and throws it 92-94 during the game.  As I noted after one of his outings in this forum,  his problem is that when he throws his slider it just doesn't have any downward movement, and just stays in the same plane.  Lower level hitters were able to get this ball in play, higher level hitters will be able to really hurt him.

     

    THis season Kohl is having problems throwing strikes, 22 walks in 24 innings which is very high total for him.

     

    I think the Twins need to completely rework his slider.  I think they have ignored it because they wanted to avoid elbow issues, but at AA he needs to get this pitch moving.  He needs to change his release point to get the change in plane movement a sldier needs.

     

    I also think they need to work on his change.  Because Steward played football his baseball skills are not as advanced as other players in similar draft positions.  He was drafted almost purely on projection and is a type of prospect that I advocate taking slower than otheres.  

     

    I think the Twins should take him out of AA and put him back to EST, work on his slider and change, then get him back to AA. 

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    Barring an injury or mechanical thing, just let him continue. He's young and he's already dominated the low minors. Even if he has to repeat AA next year, he'd be young for the level.

     

    He already spent half of last year in AA. ALL of this year AND next year? That's wasting a roster spot for a legitimate prospect IMO. He's 5 months younger than Berrios. He isn't THAT young.

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    Is it a service time thing with Berrios? Do his starts last year mean he's likely to be super two eligible if called up now? I'm not sure how that stuff works exactly...

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    Is that a joke? He already spent half of last year in AA. ALL of this year AND next year? That's wasting a roster spot for a legitimate prospect IMO. He's 5 months younger than Berrios. He isn't THAT young.

     

    If he's dropped to Ft. Myers, which should be a possibility, he'd be the second youngest pitcher on the team.

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    If he's dropped to Ft. Myers, which should be a possibility, he'd be the second youngest pitcher on the team.

    Which probably indicates that the Twins have lousy pitching prospects that can't advance in a timely fashion.

     

    And anticipating your reply, where is the evidence that the Twins don't have lousy pitching prospects? Their track record of drafting and developing them?

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    Which probably indicates that the Twins have lousy pitching prospects that can't advance in a timely fashion.

    And anticipating your reply, where is the evidence that the Twins don't have lousy pitching prospects? Their track record of drafting and developing them?

     

    That's a, well let's call it an "interesting" conclusion.

     

    We could just look at the median ages of leagues without making broad-strokes statements on the Twins prospects, many of which are good despite your ridiculously pessimistic outlook.

     

    The latest info I could find, because all I'm willing to spend on this nonsense is a quick google search, was in 2013, where the Florida State League median was 23.5 years. For AA Southern League, it's 24.6 years: http://www.baseballamerica.com/majors/median-age-for-every-full-season-league/

     

    Kohl Stewart is currently 22 years and 7 months old. Meaning that he's not only super young for his league, he'd be about a year younger than the median for the league below him.

     

    This is simple google searching that you could have done before making conclusory statements. 

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    I'm not really sure what relevance "average age" of an entire league is. 2/3 of the guys at AA and maybe even more below that level are not prospects at all and will never even whiff the majors. They are simply there because, surprisingly, the rules dictate that you have to field an entire roster around the 4 or 5 legitimate prospects you have at any given level. So, exactly what does the average age of all The players in AA have to do with the age of the PROSPECTS in AA?

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    Which probably indicates that the Twins have lousy pitching prospects that can't advance in a timely fashion.

    And anticipating your reply, where is the evidence that the Twins don't have lousy pitching prospects? Their track record of drafting and developing them?

    The Twins owned the 15th, 19th, and 33rd rounds of the 2016 amateur draft -- those are the guys dominating in Cedar Rapids this season :)
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    ‪In case anyone is wondering, this is straight from Chattanooga's social media page so at least it explains today's outting.

     

    Kohl Stewart exits the game with an injury in the top of the 5th. Todd VanSteensel coming in. ‬

     

    ‪Blue Wahoos lead 2-1, T5.‬

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    I'm not really sure what relevance "average age" of an entire league is. 2/3 of the guys at AA and maybe even more below that level are not prospects at all and will never even whiff the majors. They are simply there because, surprisingly, the rules dictate that you have to field an entire roster around the 4 or 5 legitimate prospects you have at any given level. So, exactly what does the average age of all The players in AA have to do with the age of the PROSPECTS in AA?

    I'm not a huge Stewart fan, but he is young. If you don't accept comparisons against the age of the pitching staff in Ft. Myers or the average age of the league, note that Stewart is younger than five of the top ten in ERA in the league.

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    Is that a joke? He already spent half of last year in AA. ALL of this year AND next year? That's wasting a roster spot for a legitimate prospect IMO. He's 5 months younger than Berrios. He isn't THAT young.

    He's 22 all season and in AA. How is 22 not young?

     

    According to baseball reference, Kohl Stewart is 2.3 years younger than the average age of players in his league. He could repeat AA next season and still be a year younger than average. How is that not young?

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    ‪In case anyone is wondering, this is straight from Chattanooga's social media page so at least it explains today's outting.

    Kohl Stewart exits the game with an injury in the top of the 5th. Todd VanSteensel coming in. ‬

    ‪Blue Wahoos lead 2-1, T5.‬

    Well, an injury might explain some of his struggles. One poster on here has argued that Stewart has bad mechanics which limits the effectiveness of his stuff and could cause an injury.  -shrug- Who knows. Right now he just has to pitch better.

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    The Dodgers Julio Urias is 20 and this is the third year for him making an appearance in the big leagues. It's not about how old Kohl Stewart is, it's about how awful he is performing. He's fortunate he is the bonus baby because if he were a 10th rounder he'd be hanging out in Ft Myers hoping they don't send him home. That's brutal, but it's true

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    The Dodgers Julio Urias is 20 and this is the third year for him making an appearance in the big leagues. It's not about how old Kohl Stewart is, it's about how awful he is performing. He's fortunate he is the bonus baby because if he were a 10th rounder he'd be hanging out in Ft Myers hoping they don't send him home. That's brutal, but it's true

    Maybe but it's not really relevant. Stewart is not Urias.  But he's not Appel, Bickford, Ball, Kolek etc either. There were seven HS arms taken in the first round of 2013.  Only Stewart, Kaminsky and Ball have managed to make it to AA yet and Stewart is the youngest.  He could still be dominating in A+.  I don't know what's wrong with him. Klaw liked him enough to include him in his top 100 and there are probably a few people in our organization who think he's capable of being a good pitcher. They have to figure out what's wrong.  If his stuff just isn't good, he's done. If it's something else, hopefully they can identify it and fix it.

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    That's wasting a roster spot for a legitimate prospect IMO.

     

    They are simply there because, surprisingly, the rules dictate that you have to field an entire roster around the 4 or 5 legitimate prospects you have at any given level.

    I'm sensing a bit of a disconnect between these two points of view. :)

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     He already spent half of last year in AA. ALL of this year AND next year? That's wasting a roster spot for a legitimate prospect IMO. He's 5 months younger than Berrios. He isn't THAT young.

     

    Really? Berrios is SUPER young for his advancement. Stewart in AA next year would still be young for the level. If keeping him in AA next year is needed, it is needed. There aren't 10 better SP prospects where you need space in AA and AAA.

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    The Dodgers Julio Urias is 20 and this is the third year for him making an appearance in the big leagues. It's not about how old Kohl Stewart is, it's about how awful he is performing. He's fortunate he is the bonus baby because if he were a 10th rounder he'd be hanging out in Ft Myers hoping they don't send him home. That's brutal, but it's true

     

    you realize he dominated high A already, right? he's in AA because that's the level where he's met his challenge so far. And, he's only 22. 

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