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    John  Bonnes

    UPDATE (Sun, 10:00 PM) - Beradino tweeted that the Yang's KBO team, the Kia Tigers, have not officially accepted the bid yet. Meanwhile, Darren Wolfson says that the Korean media is reporting that Texas had the winning bid."

    The Minnesota Twins have won the posting for South Korean 26-year-old pitcher Hyeon-Jong Yang per Pioneer Press’ Mike Berardino. This means they now have exclusive negotiating rights with him for 30 days to finalize a deal. Amazin Avenue has an excellent profile of Yang that goes beyond the initial anonymous scouting reports. This summarizes a lot of that story and adds in some other sources I’ve found.

    Yang is 26 years old and dominated in high school, making the South Korean Junior National Team. His success led to him being drafted ninth overall in the Korean Baseball Organization (KBO) Draft.

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    The southpaw debuted as a 19-year-old in 2007 and started the year in the rotation but was moved to the bullpen as the season progressed due to struggles with his control. It was the same story in 2008, but he broke through in 2009, posting a 3.15 ERA with 139 K and 58BB in 148.2 IP. He also led the Kia Tigers to a Korean Series victory. He regressed a bit in 2010, getting 16 wins but taking a step back in individual statistics like ERA (4.25). He had similar mediocre results from 2011 through 2012 as he continued to struggle with his control.

    He bounced back in 2013 though he missed time with a pretty serious rib injury. And in 2014, while his individual statistics don’t look spectacular, he did so in a high offense season in the KBO. He has also trimmed his walk rate over the last two years to a more respectable 3.9 BB/9. (It was over 5 for almost every other season of his KBO career.)

    This year, despite pitching for a struggling Kia Tigers team (they finished 52-74), he won 16 games and KBO’s version of the Cy Young award, the Choi Dong-won Award. This is the first season it has been awarded. That being said, it’s not clear from his statistics just why he won. Looking at KBO stats last year, it looks like several pitchers had a better year across the board.

    Amazin Avenue’s Steve Sypa cautions readers to take the projection of Yang as a #2 or even #3 starter with a large grain of salt. That projection was made by an anonymous scout to Daily News writer Mark Feinsand, but Sypa lists several others who are not as optimistic.

    The primary discrepancy surrounds Yang’s fastball, which is sometimes reported as reaching the mid-90s, but is also is listed at times as topping out at 91 or 92 mph (like in this scouting report, which also has a lot of information on his other pitches). His best pitch is his slider, but he doesn’t throw it very often, reserving it as a strikeout pitch. He also has a changeup, which has a nice velocity differential, but its movement is inconsistent. (I get the sense he has trouble keeping it low in the zone.)

    But the key concern about Yang is his control. His overall BB/9 in the KBO is 4.7, which is terrible. His pitches can have inconsistent movement. It sounds like his fastball can be thrown a few different places in the zone. His slider, when working, breaks down, but can also tail away from lefties. In the scouting report above, he was noted as occasionally pitching aggressively inside, but he wasn’t among the league leaders in hitting batters.

    This year, Yang is joined in being posted by fellow KBO pitcher Kwang-Hyun Kim. Kim was just posted and won by the Padres for $2 million last week. Kim and Yang have had parallel careers since they were pitching together on the South Korean National team, and Kim was ranked as the 32nd best free agent by Hardball Talk before the season began. Feinsand lists Yang as a better bet than Kim, but it’s not clear from their careers that there is much difference.

    Both are following the lead of Dodgers pitcher Hyun-jin Ryu, who was posted and signed two years ago and has posted a 3.17 ERA over 344 IP in those years. His success has renewed interest in KBO players, particularly pitchers.

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    I'm curious to the number of pitches he throws in a game, the size of the Korean ballparks, and it will be an interesting spring as he faces a different type of player over here. There is always an upside. And a challenge ahead for the Twins pitching coach and newly named bullpen coach.

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    yeah no way he's a successfull starter in the Majors with a 4.7 BB per 9 .... Unless severe improvement comes in that area.

     

    Nice litte signing as a Duensing replacent type..... Maybe a slitghtly better version of Theilbar.....But those dreaming of a no. 3 Starter

     

    Need to look themselves in the mirror. Not happening anytime soon.

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    MLB Trade Rumors writes of the "offense-heavy KBO." (not just this season, apparently). My question: What the hell does that mean, specifically? Anybody know?

     

    It could mean small ball parks or small strike zone. Or maybe that's where all the old aluminum bats from the NCAA went after they became illegal.

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    I'll be curious to see whether he even makes the Opening Day roster, or if he starts the year in AAA (assuming that's an option for a Korean FA signing?). It might be nice to figure out what we have before throwing him into the major leagues.

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    Headlines we want to see:

     

    "Terry Ryan makes four-year offer to Pablo Sandoval, contemplating fifth year"

     

    "Twins ask Lester 'Why' He Doesn't Want To Pitch In Minnesota after Rejecting Huge Offer"

     

    Torii Hunter asked to be Bench Coach and part-time player if need be ocne season begins"

     

    "Twins Have Money To Spend, Agents Have Ryan on Speed-Dial - I can only SIgn So Many Players"

     

    "Twins say 'Thanks to Target Field and Great Fans, Twins now have money to keep their own free agents and to competitively chase others'"

     

    "Twins Opening Up New Baseball Worlds: Australia, Germany, Denmark, Russia and now Korea - Minnesota Twins, a World Class Operation"

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    The Twins are attempting to address their pitching needs. He has to be ahead of some of the pitchers currently on the roster and at AAA.  I'm glad they are not relying on whoever was left on the roster from last year to improve. Many of the young players, and this includes Meyer, can start at AAA and be brought up later in the season IF they prove themselves capable. Outside signings don't typically occur midseason and usually get the first shot at opening day roster spots. Now will this player prove capable? I don't know, but the Twins can't wait until Meyer or any of the other pitchers get their MLB shot before signing him.

     

    I just hope they wait until AFTER the Rule 5 draft before officially signing him so another player is not exposed to the draft. Although the player will be exposed to waivers after the draft, hopefully most teams will have already settled their 40 man rosters and will pass on the waived player.

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    The first thing I think when a pitcher's high ERA is a "Cy Young" performance for the "high offense season" of the KBO, is that they must have horrible pitching (plus the man throws a ton of walks).  I mean, look at who they wanted from the Twins.  I guess Ryan wants to replace the pitchers that should never have been pitching in the majors for the Twins with more like them.  The second thing I think is....... can things ever really change as long as Terry Ryan is in charge?

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    I am in a wait and see mode. From what I have read I am not expecting this guy in the rotation next year.  But it we spend $8M over 4 years for a good reliever than that is a good deal.  A lot of the international pitchers seem to have 1-2 really good years because they benefit from nobody seeing them on tape, that upside would be great for a limited commitment.

     

    However, if the early moves so far (this guy and Hunter) represent our big targets, I will be dissapointed

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    Wow. I'm a little surprised at all the negativity about this. There may be reason to complain if he's given a major league deal. Maybe. But a lefty that can strike out guys? Worst case scenario, he could be great out of the bullpen. My hope is that they sign him to a minor league deal and he gets some AAA coaching on more consistent grips and control.

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    Nor as quick, nor as certain. :)

     

    If the Tigers do accept, the Twins will have 30 days to negotiate with the 26-year-old pitcher. ... The KBO has said it plans to inform the MLB of the Tigers' decision by 7 a.m. next Friday, Korean time.

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    Pretty cheap. Twins may have just thrown out a low ball offer never thinking it would win.

     

    Anyway, if the KBO ERA is a concern, it was still lower than Albers, so he must be better than the Canadian! Cheaper too, at least the posting fee portion.

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    From what I looked up last night (Googled "Hyeon-Jong Yang"), it sounds like KBO has always had smaller parks, but they moved to a juiced ball this year, in addition to a league-wide focus on importing hitters. The year-over-year increase in scoring was pretty crazy - the league had an OPS over .800 in 2014. That Yang was able to weather that without seeing a big increase in H/9 or HR/9 is somewhat encouraging. His BB/9 are basically average for the league, but his K/9 are way better.

     

    Getting consistent control sounds like the key to his future - good project for the new pitching coach.

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    I'm also surprised by the negativity.

     

    I'm also surprised by the level of knowledge of Korean Baseball and the confidence in such knowledge.

     

    I'm also surprised by the power of those fiber one bars.

     

    The only thing I know about the KBO is Hyun-jin Ryu, and Yang is no Ryu.  

     

     http://i.minus.com/iSEcqZ5bQrrbG.png

     

     

    Ryu  LHP  6'2" 255 #   KBO career:   ERA 2.80 K/9 8.8  BB/9  2.7  WHIP 1.154

    Yang  LHP  6'0" 172#   KBO career:  ERA 4.33 K/9 7.7  BB/9 4.7 WHIP 1.503  

     

    Can Yang be a serviceable MLB pitcher?  Absolutely. But there's definitely more than one reason that translates really well in the above numbers why the Twins won the bid.  If KIA does follow through and accepts the low-ball bid, the expectations for his level of success just have to be properly calibrated.

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    From what I looked up last night (Googled "Hyeon-Jong Yang"), it sounds like KBO has always had smaller parks, but they moved to a juiced ball this year, in addition to a league-wide focus on importing hitters. The year-over-year increase in scoring was pretty crazy - the league had an OPS over .800 in 2014. That Yang was able to weather that without seeing a big increase in H/9 or HR/9 is somewhat encouraging. His BB/9 are basically average for the league, but his K/9 are way better.

     

    Getting consistent control sounds like the key to his future - good project for the new pitching coach.

     

     

    Importing what level of hitters? Found this on YouTube.  Yang strikes out former Twins AA farmhand from 2005, Luis Jiminez, who starred for the Latte Giants last season:

     

     

    <media>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiWVD97eKwE&list=PLfOZ_qv8ydNEoVIkQb0F9BODzX3CCkfZ3 </media>

    I really like the Yang pony-tail and disarming Harry Potter demeanor.  Also, could the Twins make an offer to KIA on the play-by-play guy to replace Dick Bremer?
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    The wild, wild East?

     

     

     

    Mike Berardino @MikeBerardino  ·  15m 15 minutes ago
    Person familiar w/process: #Rangers saying they don't know anything about MK Sports report claiming TEX beat out #MNTwins in Yang bidding.
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    News Item: Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk was the surprise winner of the bid for negotiating rights to left-hander Hyeon-Jong Yang.  "What the hell, I just felt like it," Musk quipped.  "Maybe I'll start my own team.  Maybe I'll start my own league.  When something is important enough, you do it even if the odds are not in your favor, I always say.  And if nothing else works out, he and I can play pitch and catch in my back yard."  MLB and KBO officials were unavailable for comment.

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