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  • Twins Sign RHP Anibal Sanchez... No, Really


    Seth Stohs

    News came out late Friday afternoon that the Twins have reached an agreement with free agent right-hander Anibal Sanchez. The veteran will be 34-years-old before the calendar changes.

    Jon Heyman reported the agreement - which, of course is pending a physical - and later said it was a $2.5 million deal with incentives that could make him another $2.5 million.

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    Nick wrote about 24 hours ago of this winter of discontent about how the Twins have reportedly been in on Shohei Ohtani, and Yu Darvish, and Gerritt Cole, and even Chris Archer. There were, of course, other rumors that they may be talking to guys like Jaime Garcia and Chris Tillman.

    In Anibal Sanchez, the Twins got a right-hander who has been injured and ineffective the last three years of his big, six-year deal with the Detroit Tigers. In his past three seasons, his ERAs have been 4.99, 5.87 and 6.41. His WHIPs have been 1.28, 1.46 and 1.60.

    Last year, he asked to go down to the minor leagues to get another opportunity to start.

    Hey, the deal is low dollars, and if he reaches any of the incentives, he can make more money, but that likely means he's pitching well. It's also highly unlikely that he'll be particularly effective.

    The deal, according to Rhett Bollinger, is also not guaranteed.

    The other negative is that the Twins will have to remove someone from the 40-man roster in order to make room for Sanchez. Is there anyone on the 40-man that you would trade for Sanchez? That information will be interesting.

    Maybe there is another move up the sleeves of the front office. Or maybe they're just going to show a lot of confidence in the likes of Adalberto Mejia, Aaron Slegers, Felix Jorge, Stephen Gonsalves, Fernando Romero and Zack Littell.

    For a team on the brink of perennial playoff possibilities, this is a strange move, especially when there are several other AL teams that they will be competing for a wild card spot with.

    Maybe some of our readers can explain this one to me?

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    Wow and I thought the new front office had no plan.  Did I read this wrong - is he another old wily vet to pair with Hunter, Cuddyer, Morneau... Great to have a retirement home team.  -0.8 WAR last year!  And that follows a -1.2 WAR so he is improving.   My broken record keeps playing - use your young arms and quit picking up the homeless.

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    Serious question. There is NO WAY ANYONE, ANYWHERE who could see this as a major signing in any way, shape or form. It is the definition of a flier.

    Not sure about that. A "flier" usually doesn't come with a 40-man roster spot and guaranteed salary (albeit only $500k).

     

    A lot of people seem to be assuming he will be cut this spring if he doesn't make the team, but how often do teams give a guy a 40-man spot on Feb. 16 and release him by April 1?

     

    There seems to be 2 possible outcomes here:

     

    1. Sanchez makes the rotation, gets $2.5 mil

     

    2. Sanchez goes to the AAA rotation, makes $500k

     

    Neither one looks good from my vantage point. You've got all offseason to come up with an improved rotation plan, and Anibal Sanchez is part of it? Or he's taking away opportunities from about 5-6 younger guys who need to be starting in AAA?

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    My broken record keeps playing - use your young arms and quit picking up the homeless.

    As we have discussed, I don't agree with you about using the young arms in MLB quite yet -- but the split nature of this Sanchez deal seems to imply that he's ticketed for AAA starts even if he can't crack the MLB rotation. I suspect we could all unify in our dislike for that plan!

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    I sort of think last year was "check out the position players" and this year is "let's look at the arms."

     

    I'm pretty sure the Twins have an idea of where their weaknesses are at the position player level, but, they've got some intriguing arms that need a look at the MLB level. 

     

    I'm hoping for a fun year, which means a year in which the Twins are competitive.

     

    What really stinks is we just don't know what the thoughts and the plans are by the new FO. I hate that, but get it. Even as intelligent and fanatic of supporters as we are, they don't "owe" us an explanation as to what they see or are doing. I don't like it any more than the rest us, but there is a part of me that agrees with your statement and wonders if they aren't looking at a "big picture" for 2018 and beyond where they are looking at continued development from the existing roster, and really like some of the pitching talent on hand, and are just waiting for time/opportunity for some "show me" performances to feel the roster has arrived.

     

    Not painting rainbows and sunshine for a "meh" move that means little at this point, (And nobody has said this is the ONLY move they are going to make, it's only a singular move). I just wonder about their ideas of an end game here.

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    Why not just give him an invite to camp then?  

     

    Everything about this smells like they plan to actually have him in the rotation.  There is nothing about that anyone should be happy about.

    Clearly, he wouldn't have accepted.  I'm sure they tried to offer Tillman something similar, and I'm sure other teams offered Sanchez something a bit more than a minor league invite.  

     

    The contract is structured in such a way that they have every reason to end this experiment early. 

     

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    What really stinks is we just don't know what the thoughts and the plans are by the new FO. I hate that, but get it. Even as intelligent and fanatic of supporters as we are, they don't "owe" us an explanation as to what they see or are doing. I don't like it any more than the rest us, but there is a part of me that agrees with your statement and wonders if they aren't looking at a "big picture" for 2018 and beyond where they are looking at continued development from the existing roster, and really like some of the pitching talent on hand, and are just waiting for time/opportunity for some "show me" performances to feel the roster has arrived. Not painting rainbows and sunshine for a "meh" move that means little at this point, (And nobody has said this is the ONLY move they are going to make, it's only a singular move). I just wonder about their ideas of an end game here.

     

    I don't agree with the they don't "owe" us an explanation as to what they see or are doing. Why not? That kind of attitude by the FO in regards to the fans that make it all work, is disgusting.

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    I don't agree with the they don't "owe" us an explanation as to what they see or are doing. Why not? That kind of attitude by the FO in regards to the fans that make it all work, is disgusting.

    Unless you have a financial stake in the team, they don't owe you any explanation. They made a business decision based on information we are not privy to whether you like it or not. I don't like it but that's immaterial to the front office.

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    Possibly. But if so, how has he maintained his k rate?

    Just a guess...

    the Kyle Gibson effect. nibble at the edges with very hittable stuff and when you get in trouble with walks, throw it down the middle?

     

    Over his career his hard hit rate has gone from 25(ish) percent to 37. His hr/fb has gone from 10(ish) percent to 20 percent. Homers are up across the league so it’s hard to give the homer trend too much weight, but it doesn’t look like there’s much upside here. He’s cooked

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    This may be one or both (but probably neither) of the following:

     

    1.  The Twins got a "hot tip" on a 30-1.  His father was a mudder.  Mother was a mudder. Sanchez will be like a poor teams Rich Hill.  I bet we somehow trade him for Jose De Leon at some point this year, when the rookies all hit their stride.  

     

    2.  This is posturing to Cobb and Lynn's agents.  One of them just lost a landing spot.  This explains the 40 Man contract move.  They probably have identical crappy offers out to both of them and want to see who blinks first.

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    To me it's simply the roster spot. The money isn't worth mentioning in the context of not allowing a valid signing. I just don't see the allure in baseball to such veteran deference. It's almost not possible for one of the teams more talented younger arms not to outpitch him. This is a move that is utterly baffling.

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    I don't get all the hate.  If he shows absolutly nothing he get cut (most likely). If they want to continue to see him they send him to AAA (not like we don't have other replacement level pitchers there). If he looks good, he makes the club rather than rushing one of the prospects.  Then they reevaluate when Ervin comes back. Just another flier. 

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    I don't get all the hate. If he shows absolutly nothing he get cut (most likely). If they want to continue to see him they send him to AAA (not like we don't have other replacement level pitchers there).

    Sounds like the "split contract" reporting was inaccurate -- we likely will be unable to send him to AAA.

     

    This will create the usual "opt out" drama at the end of spring training, just with ~$2 mil extra on the line.

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    Sounds like the "split contract" reporting was inaccurate -- we likely will be unable to send him to AAA.

    This will create the usual "opt out" drama at the end of spring training, just with ~$2 mil extra on the line.

     

    The Twins are not going to sign 3 or 4 contracts like this. 

     

    Slegers moved up to the 4th spot after the Santana injury.

     

    I'm calling it right now.

     

    Sanchez will be on the roster come opening day. 

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    The Twins are not going to sign 3 or 4 contracts like this. 

     

    Slegers moved up to the 4th spot after the Santana injury.

     

    I'm calling it right now.

     

    Sanchez will be on the roster come opening day. 

    I still think only one of Hughes or Sanchez is in the opening day rotation. I also have some level of optimism that the Twins add one more (legit good) starter.

     

    Berrios

    Gibson

    Mejia

    Sanchez/Hughes

    Slegers but hopefully a legit good FA/trade instead

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    In a word, depressing. These are the kinds of moves we made back in the '90s, when we were just looking for bodies and arms because the game requires nine men on the field. I'm handicapping this year's squad at about 69-93.

    Actually, this is the sort of move the Twins made just 3-5 years ago. Anyone remember the names among that motley crew of pitchers we used not so long ago? Deduno was probably the best of the lot!

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    I still think only one of Hughes or Sanchez is in the opening day rotation. I also have some level of optimism that the Twins add one more (legit good) starter.

     

    Berrios

    Gibson

    Mejia

    Sanchez/Hughes

    Slegers but hopefully a legit good FA/trade instead

     

    I'm glad you have optimism because I used to have it and I'm glad its in good hands. .

     

    I'm in the "Had" category right now but I realize there is time for the front office to recover. 

     

    If they couldn't go a 6th year on Darvish... I don't think they go a 4th year on Lynn or Cobb.

     

     

    Someone else will 

     

     

     

     

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