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    Parker Hageman

    The Minnesota Twins made several significant moves on Saturday morning. Read all about them in the latest Report From The Fort.

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    Twins Trim Roster To 31

    The Twins trimmed their roster to 31 this morning with the announcement that Aaron Hicks, Eddie Rosario and Trevor May will be optioned, while Mark Hamburger will be reassigned to the minor league camp.

    Hicks acknowledged that players have to continue to show results but didn’t necessarily think his spring training stats played a role in the decision.

    “You gotta show that you are producing,” Hicks said. “You gotta show that you’re having good ideas. You gotta show that you are driving guys in and moving them along, you’re doing all that stuff. Whether it is spring training or not. They're looking to make the best team for this team. Every spot is not certain.”

    “You gotta prove that you are the best player at that position, at that time and that’s what it is about.”

    Hicks had made inroads towards improving his offense, incorporating a leg kick in his swing to generate more power.

    “I feel like I am making more aggressive swings, attacking in the zone and I feel like I was making good swings. I feel like I lined out a couple times and sent the ball deep and that’s the results that I want.”

    Molitor confirmed that the move was predicated on Hicks’ entire body of work in March.

    “I told him I appreciate his work down here and his desire to try to improve various aspects of his game. I think the bottom line was that he didn’t perform particularly well. There were times when we saw some good things obviously," said Molitor

    Molitor said his message to Hicks was clear: Work hard and there is a chance he will be back in Minnesota soon. "Let him know that the opening day roster isn’t critical to what his year can be about. He needs to be a good defender and a guy who knows how to score runs and consistency in the quality of at-bat.”

    When asked if some of the mental mistakes such as the base-running issues and forgetting how many outs there were in an inning were factors in the decision to go a different direction, Molitor admitted it did.

    “You take full consideration of how spring goes, obviously. I told him after that happened that the next day after we talked about it that I like to move on and wipe the slate clean. But when you look at the body of work you have to consider all things that happen down here that was part of that. He understands that he needs to be engaged in the game.”

    “He’s a guy who if he defends well and has good at-bat and stays aggressive on the basepaths he can be helpful up here. And not make mental mistakes.”

    Center Field Picture Becoming Clear

    With Hicks’ demotion, the Twins’ center field race has been won by Jordan Schafer and Shane Robinson, who will share duties in the field.

    “We’re going to have to probably use more than one person out there in center field, at least in the short-term.” Molitor said this morning after cuts were announced. The Twins manager, however, stopped short of declaring the situation a platoon. “Because you have Hunter that needs rest, you have Arcia who you want to get better against lefties and some days you might feel that it is not a good lefty to do that one. That’s why I would say it is not a straight platoon.”

    The right-handed hitting Robinson does not have an overly impressive track record against left-handed pitching. Since 2011, he’s batted .248/.333/.296 in 142 minor league plate appearances and .220/.308/.283 in 237 major league plate appearances against southpaws

    In addition to Schafer and Robinson, Molitor said that Eduardo Escobar will be used to spell some of the outfielders on occasion but tiptoed around the idea of using Eduardo Nunez in the outfield, suggesting his role is on the bench.

    “For Nunnie, it is possible that he could see play out there,” said Molitor, “but realistically he’s gonna be a good guy and you want to use all your players at some point but he’s a guy who can pinch run and pinch hit and you want to get him some at-bat to keep him sharp.”

    Tommy Milone Named Fifth Starter

    With May’s demotion, the Twins announced that Tommy Milone would start the year as the fifth man in the rotation.

    Milone pieced together a spring performance that saw 15 hits and 7 runs over 14 innings but Molitor said that the staff was impressed by his ability to “minimize” damage. “Tommy pitched fine down here. He’s healthy. We saw glimpses that were really good. He never pitched poorly,” said Molitor. “He minimized, he’s experienced and when evaluating my options in the short-term here get him off to a good start from the left-side.”

    Milone’s edge over the other two candidates was not that significant.

    “I thought May and Pelfrey didn’t really pitch themselves out of that role and it wasn’t like Milone was way better than those guys but given all variables, it makes the most sense for Tommy to be our guy.”

    Mike Pelfrey To The Pen

    With Milone as the final member of the rotation, Mike Pelfrey was informed that he would be moving to the bullpen. The decision did not sit well with Pelfrey as he told reporters that he would be open to a trade if it would lead to a spot in a rotation.

    For now, Molitor said he would treat him as a member of his bullpen.

    “He’s stretched out, he can pitch multiple innings if we run into trouble early in the game. I told him in the short-term that I was going to stay away from bringing him in in the middle of an inning until he figures out his routine for getting ready out there. He’s gonna get some opportunities out there this week.”

    Molitor said he was aware that Pelfrey was disappointed but wouldn’t address his comments.

    “I’m sure he’s disappointed. He put in a lot of effort to get himself back to a competitive spot. He’s looking at a little bit of a crossroad with his career after his injury and contract and all those things. I tried to be as transparent and forthcoming as I could.”

    Danny Santana At Short

    It may have been inevitable but Molitor made it official: Danny Santana will be his opening day shortstop in Detroit.

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    I'm fine with Hicks going down but don't get Milone. Other than being left handed, what does he bring to the table?

    This is just me but I'd rather bring north the guy who doesn't get into jams rather than the one who has to consistently battle to get out of them. But that's just me I'm sure....

     

    Problem is May and Pelfry haven't really shown a propensity to avoid jams or get out of them.  I would have rather they gone with May but Milone can be a more than serviceable 5th starter, and maybe can even build up a little trade value for when May/ Meyer force their way to the MLB.

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    Keep trying, you didn't get it straight yet.

    Which part did I miss? Hicks was accountable and pelfrey acted like the last two years didn't happen. What are the twins supposed to say to pelfrey? You will make the team is 3 guys get hurt?

     

    I guess I don't buy "open competition" being the same as lowest era in 10 innings wins the job.

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    Which part did I miss? Hicks was accountable and pelfrey acted like the last two years didn't happen. What are the twins supposed to say to pelfrey? You will make the team is 3 guys get hurt?

    I guess I don't buy "open competition" being the same as lowest era in 10 innings wins the job.

    Maybe after Ryan re-signed him for two years and more money after the kind of year he had with us his first year, he felt his spot was pretty secure.  That was an interesting precedent set by Ryan.

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    I have to break my silence and make my first post after reading this article.

     

    I'll start by saying that I believe Trevor May and Aaron Hicks should have made the team based on their current talent and their future contributions to this team. We all know that Tommy Milone and Shane Robinson are in the range of bad and mediocre at best, and they have little to no chance at becoming anything of value for the Twins in the future.

     

    What a joke.

    not that I am a fan of how these races shook out, but if no one "won" the position, do you put in a rookie who isn't ready or a veteran who can't get any worse. I hope that Trevor May, Alex Meyer, Aaron Hicks and Eddie Rosario all earn their way onto the big league roster this season.

     

    Disappointed? Sure. Surprised? No. Maybe Milone and Robinson/Schafer will earn enough value to be trade bait.

     

    It's a long season, this isn't even the beginning yet

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    The good:  Milone has some track record of success and didn't stink during ST. Now, that's not a ringing endorsement, but it is factual. Personally, I thought May was the guy to beat, but he was slowed by his early illness. It would seem there is time for everyone to get one more start in. Why make the announcement/decision now when all parties could audition that one more time? But three years ago, two year ago, possibly even last year, a guy like Milone  as our 5th starter would have made us feel pretty good. And honestly, I don't feel that this is going to be anything remotely permanent.

     

    For the most part, I'm not upset about no Rosario, no Buxton, no Sano and no Polanco. Did anyone really think they were going to...more or less...bypass AA ball and jump to the Twins lineup during ST? The offense was much improved last season. There is a real possibility it could be even better this season with Dozier and Santana possibly even better, a whole season from Vargas, a return to form (or near it) from Mauer, etc.

     

    Santana is a quality pitcher. Healthy, he's 200 IP and 13-14 wins that you can almost write down in ink. His track record also shows very clearly that with a team playing solid all around baseball, he has the ability to rise and be a 15-17 game winner. He's done it before. And the kicker is, Gibson might just be the Twins second best starter when all is said and done. Don't hate Nolasco. Be happy he's back healthy and looking OK. One reason is he really is a solid career ML starter who is our #4 guy for goodness sake. We used to sign guys like him, or lesser, to lead this staff. (Correia anyone?) Secondly, the better he does, the greater value for trade bait later in the season.

     

    Be disappointed, if you will, that 6 or 7 rookies didn't make the Twins out of ST. Or realize that we just might score some runs, and have the best rotation we've had in YEARS, with a large group of talented youngsters oh so very close.

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    Be disappointed, if you will, that 6 or 7 rookies didn't make the Twins out of ST. Or realize that we just might score some runs, and have the best rotation we've had in YEARS, with a large group of talented youngsters oh so very close.

    I don't think too many people expected or are disappointed that 6 or 7 rookies didn't make the Twins out of ST.  I think some, myself included, are disappointed that NONE of our touted guys did.

     

    As far as having the best rotations we've had in YEARS, the barometer isn't exactly high now is it? And many said the same thing last offseason.

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    The bad: Flip flopping a bit on my earlier statement...why wouldn't you let Milone and May each start one more game before making a decision. Is someone holding a loaded pitching machine to Molitor or Ryan's head? What if Milone was "meh" and May was something close to lights out? 

     

    On the surface, at first glance, I am not upset in the slightest that Hicks and Rosario are sent down. Rosario is a potential stud, but had only half of a disappointing season last year. A strong AFL and good start in ST does not necessitate a rush to a ML job that a month or two or three in the minors will probably make him better prepared for. Do we want another repeat of the Hicks situation?  And speaking of Hicks, I'd say at least half the community, if not closer to 75%, have been in favor of, or not disliked, the idea of Hicks getting some AAA time to hone his game, build confidence,and get back on track before his career goes totally off rail.

     

    No, I'm not surprised, disappointed or angry about those demotions at all. BUT, I am pretty PO'ed that the final result is Schafer and...what's his name again?...oh yeah, Robinson in CF. What was Robinson for the Cardinals last season, their 5th OF? 6th? Seriously, I'm not even sure. And now he's the Twins semi-platoon CF/4th OF option. After the debacles of the past 2 off seasons/seasons this is the best we can come up with?

     

    I have hope for this team, and don't dislike most of it. But I am hoping and crossing just about anything I can that there is a very smart plan happening here where the Twins cook and percolate May, Meyer, Rosario, Buxton, Sano and others for a little while before moving Nolasco, Milone, Pelfrey and a couple others. If Robinson and a couple of these guys really are just place holders, then OK, I get it. If not.....shame on the Twins.

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    Maybe after Ryan re-signed him for two years and more money after the kind of year he had with us his first year, he felt his spot was pretty secure.  That was an interesting precedent set by Ryan.

    I wish I had been paid $5.5MM/year with the precondition that I would get demoted.

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    I honestly don't get the Hicks situation. I thought it was pretty obvious that if the bats aren't quite there, then you bring the best defensive outfielders north.

     

    I seem to recall Hicks hits lefties pretty well and Schafer is/was good against righties.

     

    Granted,it doesn't get Hicks the at bats, but, at some point, you need people in the field that can catch the ball.

     

    Of course, since I'm going from memory/impression, I could be way off.

     

    A platoon may not be ideal, but, look at KC and the platoon outfield they used that almost won the Series

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    The right handed half of a platoon is basically a bench player. Putting Hicks in that role pretty much assigns him to that status. It could end his development well below what was perceived to be his ceiling. We don't know if he could handle a part-time role and he's only played a few innings in right and left. Shane Robinson is the best defensive outfielder that competed for a position and he has been in a backup role. He is a good fit for the platoon CF/fourth outfielder role.

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    I honestly don't get the Hicks situation. I thought it was pretty obvious that if the bats aren't quite there, then you bring the best defensive outfielders north.

     

    I seem to recall Hicks hits lefties pretty well and Schafer is/was good against righties.

     

    Granted,it doesn't get Hicks the at bats, but, at some point, you need people in the field that can catch the ball.

     

    Of course, since I'm going from memory/impression, I could be way off.

     

    A platoon may not be ideal, but, look at KC and the platoon outfield they used that almost won the Series

     

    There actually was a bigger dilemma than who plays in CF-  and that's the overall OF defense.  By all accounts, (as expected), Arcia has struggled in his transition to LF, and Torii is soon 40.  Shane Robinson isn't much of a major league hitter, but there's no question that he is a major league outfielder. Hicks is still a work in progress and didn't rise to the opportunity right in front of him this spring-  for now, he should still be playing every day in AAA, if at the very worst, only to preserve whatever perceived value he still retains.

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    The right handed half of a platoon is basically a bench player. Putting Hicks in that role pretty much assigns him to that status. It could end his development well below what was perceived to be his ceiling. We don't know if he could handle a part-time role and he's only played a few innings in right and left. Shane Robinson is the best defensive outfielder that competed for a position and he has been in a backup role. He is a good fit for the platoon CF/fourth outfielder role.

     

    Sorry Stringer.  Typing and watching NCAA while you had essentially already posted what I just did.

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    "The decision did not sit well with Pelfrey as he told reporters that he would be open to a trade if it would lead to a spot in a rotation."

     

    Mike - we'd gladly trade you for an empty paper bag...and we'd probably even kick in a couple million bucks.  But, alas, no one would take your $5mm contract.

     

    Let's not forget 2014.  There were 116 AL starting pitchers who had 5 starts and over 20 innings pitched.  Your stats and rankings, Mike:

    ERA 7.99 (116th, last)

    xFIP 7.57 (116th, last, the 115th ranked guy, was 6.9)

    K/BB 0.6 (116th, you walked 18 guys and K'ed 10)

    WAR -0.7 (116th)

     

    So your 14 good innings are supposed to make us all forget how awful you are? 

     

    If 2014 was an anomaly because of injury, how do you explain your 2013: ERA 5.2 (ranked 85th of 115 AL starters)?

     

    You had a good spring training last year too (3.6 ERA over 18 innings).  How'd your 2014 season go?

     

    You are what we call in baseball "a bum".  I'm glad the team could see past your $5mm salary and it's sunk cost. 

     

    PS - I have no love for Milone but either of these guys feeling like they "earned" a starting slot in Major League Baseball is a joke.   

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    listening to the game today the announcers are in midseason form.  defending the milone selection, talking about how walks allowed is the worst thing ever, talking about no pitch counts in Bert's pitching days, etc.

     

    So you're saying that the boys are taking a fresh approach in their analysis....?

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    Let's not forget who thought signing Pelfrey in the first place was a good idea much less re-signing him for two years at an even larger salary (though not large in the grand scheme of things overall).

    The genius of Terry Ryan. And he continues to keep his job.

     

    "Nunnie"??? I threw up on that one. More of the same. What Molitor said about Milone is very depressing. I thought Paulie would be different. 

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    Tommy Milone doesn't even wear high socks or stirrups. What a bum. I cannot stand by that decision.

     

    or the decision to roster Eduardo Nunez.

     

    Or most of everything else that happened over the weekend. Except for maybe Hicks to AAA. I get that. I hope he figures it out and has a successful return to MLB.

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    Some were very critical of Gardy for playing favorites, but he was at least dogged in asking the FO for more talent.  He voiced on numerous occasions his desire to have Gibson, Meyer, and May called up.  He publicly disagreed with the FO on the Santana displacing Escobar debate.  Molitors first few moves as manager: Santana to short, and Meyer/May back to AAA.  

     

    I can't say I'm offended by anything that happened regarding the cuts provided they are short term.  Hey, if Theo Epstein says he's never had a rookie break with the team, then I'm ok with our studs taking a month to get into a grove before coming up, hopefully with some confidence.  If Kris Bryant isn't coming north, should Eddie Rosario?

     

    I would guess Rosario will be the first call up, as soon as he's ready.  Molitor's hinted at as much.  Hamburger will be added back as soon as Boyer fails or Pelfrey is traded.  May will be up if he can show he's ready and Milone stumbles.  It's still a competition, but eventually the season starts and you have to choose a guy.  Meyer is the perfect candidate to get some experience in the pen before preparing to start next year.  If we get to mid-June and most of this has taken place, I think most of those complaining will be satisfied, and I believe that is the teams ultimate hope.

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    Considering Span and Revere got traded and Torii Hunter isn't 25 anymore, it's safe to say that center field is a work in progress. I think the Twins are hoping that one of their young guys will step up and take the job, eventually. Don't panic.

     

    Nunez is okay, but I am not a very big fan of his. I hope he plays awesome when he gets the opportunity and makes me into a believer.

     

    Santana is a stud @ SS and Escobar is a good player in his own right.

     

    On one hand, I understand Pelfrey's point of view. If he believes he earned a spot in the starting rotation by out-pitching the competition, then he has a right to be disappointed and I have no problem with that. On the other hand life must be really tough for him, living the dream pitching in the MLB and having to worry about how he's going to spend all of that $. All he has to do is keep working hard, pitch to the best of his ability, and everything will work out in the end.

     

    For the ones wondering how Hunter is going to mentor the young guys, while being many miles away, the easy answer is that he is not. However, he just spent a month with them in spring training and some of the young guys will be up at some point this year. Also, I imagine that Hunter will likely stay in contact with some of them (or vice versa) throughout the season.

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    As has been pointed out: who is Hunter going to mentor? I can see his attitude helping the team in general, but I thought he would be a great influence on Hicks.

    Pelfrey being upset is fine, shows he has some desire, but no way did he earn a starting rotation spot.

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    Santana, I imagine, will not prove to be a stud at SS. I just don't think he's that guy. He's a place holder until he loses a step and Polanco or even Eduardo Escobar force him out of there.

    That can be said about any starting player. They are the guy until they are no longer the guy. I just like Santana as a baseball player. He's pretty good. I hope we have good young prospects that can win jobs over our current starters because losing is never as fun as winning. I'm all for improving the team.

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    I have said this a bunch, but Shane Robinson does not belong on an MLB roster, *unless* that team is heading to the playoffs and they need a guy to do one thing very well, like defense. That's why it made sense for the Cardinals to have him, but it is absurd for the Twins to have him.

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