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  • Twins 2023 Position Analysis: First Base


    Nick Nelson

    Who's on first? 

    This year, the question shapes up as more of an existential dilemma for the Twins than comedic riff.

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    Projected Starter: Alex Kirilloff
    Likely Backup: Joey Gallo
    Depth: Donovan Solano, José Miranda, Tyler White
    Prospects: Edouard Julien, Aaron Sabato

    THE GOOD
    In an ideal scenario, the Twins would be regularly rotating Kirilloff, Miranda and Solano at first base this year, giving the team a pair of young hitting stars along with a veteran line drive machine, and the ability to optimize against any pitching matchup.

    Of course, as the strong side of the platoon mix and highest-upside hitter of the bunch, Kirilloff holds the key to that appealing scenario. He's also the biggest question mark on the team in terms of health. 

    But if his second wrist surgery proves effective, as he and the team hope, the 25-year-old has the ability to provide ideal production at first base: mashing line drives all over the field, powering the middle of the lineup, producing runs consistently.

    We've seen these propensities on display in the majors before, albeit in brief spurts interrupted by recurring wrist problems that completely sabotaged Kirilloff's majestic swing.

    Getting that swing back on track would be a game-changing development for the Twins. But it's one they've made themselves less dependent on with the additions of Gallo and Solano. These two could form a solid platoon in Kirilloff's absence.

    Even in a very rough 2022 campaign, Gallo held his own against righties, hitting 17 home runs with an OPS+ of 96; in his career he has an .804 OPS versus RHP. Meanwhile, Solano is a reputed lefty masher, having batted above .300 against them in four straight seasons. Both are considered solid defenders at first.

    Ultimately, if Kirilloff can't go, the eventuality may well be Miranda as primary first baseman. His defense at third was already questionable before a shoulder injury this spring set him back. It feels like more a matter of when, not if, Miranda will move to first, and depending on how things play out with Kirilloff, Gallo, and Solano, the Twins could be motivated to accelerate that timeline.

    Not the worst thing in the world. Miranda profiles as a middle-of-the-order bat befitting the first baseman assignment. But it could have negative ripple effects.

    THE BAD
    As amazing as it would be to see Kirilloff's swing back in its prime form over a sustained period, that feels like a difficult thing to count on, at least in the short term. To my knowledge, he has yet to even take live BP this spring, much less get into a game, although he's been working in the cages. 

     

    Phil Miller had an update on Kirilloff in the Star Tribune over the weekend, and it contained some mixed messages.  

    Said Kirilloff: "I still feel it every once in a while, but it's not painful." The "it" in that sentence looms large for a player whose wrist issues have made it impossible for him to swing the way he wants to in the past two seasons.

    Said Derek Falvey: "He's on track. The plan is, if he's healthy at the end of camp, he's competing for a spot." If he's on track, then wouldn't the plan be for him to firmly make the team if healthy? We're not talking about some unproven minor-leaguer here. This is Alex Kirilloff.

    It seems ridiculous to be dissecting quotes like this but given the vital importance of AK to this club's outlook, and the dearth of information we've gotten so far this spring, we're left with little choice. Taking all the comments at face value, I'm going to assume Kirilloff is on the unlikely side of being on the Opening Day roster, though I'd love to be wrong.

    The options behind him are potentially quite compelling, but fraught with downside. Gallo was a star player in 2021, but he was terrible last year, and has played only one game at first base since 2018. Solano has been a consistently solid hitter, but he's 35, and had played zero big-league innings at first prior to last year.

    Shifting Miranda across the diamond is a decent fallback, but his defense at first base pretty rough as a rookie, and this would also mean needing to find another bat to replace him at third base. A more inviting proposition if it's an ascendent top prospect like Brooks Lee or Royce Lewis than Kyle Farmer.

    Speaking of prospects, the Twins are conspicuously light at this position. It'd be hard to say they have no first base prospects, because in theory they have quite a few top prospects who could end up there – it's at the bottom of the defensive spectrum, after all. But, notably, none of our top 20 from this year currently play there in any sort of regular capacity. 

    The most prototypical first base slugger in the system is probably Sabato, whom the Twins drafted in the first round out of college in 2020 with hopes he'd rise fast as an impact bat. Things haven't gone exactly to plan, with Sabato's extreme contact struggles negating the value of his standout power and patience, but he's been playing a lot in big-league camp this year and could be an immediate factor at age 24 if he takes a step forward in the high minors this year.

    THE BOTTOM LINE
    Rocco Baldelli has indicated that he "expects first base to be a revolving door similar to designated hitter," as Dan Hayes of The Athletic put it

    "We don’t have a first baseman,” the manager said earlier this spring. “We have several guys that are going to play first base. We don’t need one guy that’s going to play first base.” 

    They certainly have options, albeit ones with limited experience. (Nick Gordon, owner of zero innings of first base experience at any level, was evidently mentioned as a possibility in the same discussion.)

    Then again, if Luis Arraez's emergence as an All-Star and Gold Glove finalist at first taught us anything, it's that experience is no prerequisite. Tell em Wash.

    The upside of this position feels capped without a healthy and thriving Kirilloff (in which case it's sky-high), but the Twins have built in enough floor to maintain a relatively high floor if things go amiss once again with their former number one prospect.

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    I am filled with hope and optimism when I hear "sore" and not "pain". Soreness I would expect. I mean, major or not, it was still surgery and his wrist is going to adapt over time.

    I don't know that any of us don't believe he could be a special bat for the next several years. If he's not ready opening day, I won't be freaked out or upset. It will only mean he needs more time to ramp up after being brought along slowly for precautionary reasons. And I'm OK with that. His full and long term recovery is far more important than being ready opening day. If he does begin at AAA, there would then appear to be room for Larnach or Julien. 

    Long term, I'm not so concerned about depth of prospects as long as AK gets right. Julien will end up there and 2B, and Miranda will be able to swing between 3B/1B. All is good and deep and well....as long as Kirilloff gets 100%, even if the beginning of his season is a little delayed.

     

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    2 hours ago, TwinsDr2021 said:

    invaluable to the Saints? If they think he can hit major league pitching does it matter if he is at 1B, DH or the OF? Currently ESPN has him listed as the 4th right fielder, they have Miranda as the 1st 3B and 2nd 1B behind AK and Farmer as the 3rd 1B. If AK can't start Miranda can't play both 1B and 3B, which means Farmer or Gordon is at 1B, since Gallo is listed as the 1st LF.

    He seems pretty buried on the OF depth chart which means quite a few bad things need to happen for him to start in the majors in the OF and if he spends the year in AAA  he could get passed by Lewis, Lee, Martin or even ERod and in the mean time while in playing AAA as a 25 year old he could get passed by Julien at DH and 1B.

    It is in his best interest and the Twins to get a first basemen glove along with his outfielders glove.

     

    OK, Wallner is 4th in RF. Where's he on the 1B depth? Kiriloff, Gallo, Miranda, Solando, White, Gordon, Julien, Sabato or anyone else on the active roster they may deem worthy to transition there before Wallner.

    Wallner's bat isn't MLB ready, he SOs too much, He was expected to get a cup of coffee last year  but not as much as he did. That won't happen this season. I doubt he'll have much of any time in MLB. Wallner needs to work his butt off to polish up his raw stuff; to get a better feel of RF, his glove and SO less to lock up any chance of playing RF next season as to take advantage of his speed & arm (that's what AAA is for). With Gallo, Taylor and Kepler probably all gone.

    So you want them leap frog Wallner over those who has more experience and proven bat at 1B this  season and jeopardize his chances to start at RF next season, for what?

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    I hope AK thrives, but if he does not then I like keeping Miranda at 3B until Lewis or Lee is ready.  I would prefer Solano to fill in there if AK cannot to start the season with Gallo playing there intermittently against RH pitching in a platoon with Solano.

    Once Lewis or Lee is ready, and if Polanco/Julien are locked in at 2B, only then would I entertain moving Miranda to 1B.  I just would prefer that he not be moved back and forth as he needs to find a permanent position.

     

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    7 hours ago, Nick Nelson said:

    Could you cite a source? I've not heard this and didn't see it happen during a week down there. Swinging in the cages is not the same as live BP.

    Everyone knows the source name     Whishy  Wasdo !!!

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    "Solano has been a consistently solid hitter...(and) a line drive machine..."

    Honestly, I feel like I'm in the twilight zone reading writers on this site regarding Solano. My word, he was signed for $2M after camp started. He's a 92 OPS+ career hitter. He's 35. Last year, which was one of his recent 'outstanding' seasons, he was at 97. I have a hard time believing his signing has much of anything to do with first base or DH...other than break-glass in-game scenarios. I think if Kirilloff is out, he's still not anything too close to part of a 1B/DH "plan".

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    If you're doubting that Kiriloff can come back after that "bone shortening" surgery, check out Kirk Gibson's history. I can't remember the exact number, but he smacked a lot of baseballs out of the park after the same surgery. I choose to be optimistic. Man, I am glad baseball is back. Oh, and I love the pitch clock.

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    8 hours ago, TwinsDr2021 said:

    invaluable to the Saints? If they think he can hit major league pitching does it matter if he is at 1B, DH or the OF? Currently ESPN has him listed as the 4th right fielder, they have Miranda as the 1st 3B and 2nd 1B behind AK and Farmer as the 3rd 1B. If AK can't start Miranda can't play both 1B and 3B, which means Farmer or Gordon is at 1B, since Gallo is listed as the 1st LF.

    He seems pretty buried on the OF depth chart which means quite a few bad things need to happen for him to start in the majors in the OF and if he spends the year in AAA  he could get passed by Lewis, Lee, Martin or even ERod and in the mean time while in playing AAA as a 25 year old he could get passed by Julien at DH and 1B.

    It is in his best interest and the Twins to get a first basemen glove along with his outfielders glove.

     

    OK, I understand your basic belief that a top prospect should be a viable ML player by age 24. I don't entirely agree due to mitigating factors such as injury that could wipe out an entire season. And while we are all sick and tired of hearing about and dealing with covid, the simple truth is the entire 2020 milb season was lost. Period. A few top prospects were allowed to practice and semi play for taxi squads that year. So while you, or me, or anyone wants to admit it or not,  almost ANY PROSPECT is a year younger in development time than their age. How can you possibly deny someone NOT PLAYING for an ENTIRE YEAR and then say they are behind development and not a legitimate prospect because they aren't ready by age 24?

    I LIKE Wallner. He's athletic and surprisingly fast. He's got tremendous power. Batting wise, I'm still concerned about K's. But he's improved at EVERY level the last 2yrs, in reagrd to AVG and OB. He keeps getting better. He's got the athletic range to play the OF and a CANNON for an arm. But his defense, even in SSS says he needs polish. Nothing wrong with that. It's up to HIM to prove his athleticism and arm can play at the ML level after 3 seasons of milb ball and a cup of coffee at the ML level. 

    Being stuck, for the moment, behind Gallo, Kepler, and Larnach is not a bad thing. It just means veterans in place and waiting for opportunity. And time to further refine his game. And I don't have a problem with him trying on a 1B MIT to see if he could play the position. But opportunity will come. 

    I would place Larnach in RF and Wallner in LF, with better speed, as early as 2024, even with the option of Martin providing competition. But AAA time to hone his talent is not a bad thing at all.

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    7 hours ago, Bigfork Twins Guy said:

    I hope AK thrives, but if he does not then I like keeping Miranda at 3B until Lewis or Lee is ready.  I would prefer Solano to fill in there if AK cannot to start the season with Gallo playing there intermittently against RH pitching in a platoon with Solano.

    Once Lewis or Lee is ready, and if Polanco/Julien are locked in at 2B, only then would I entertain moving Miranda to 1B.  I just would prefer that he not be moved back and forth as he needs to find a permanent position.

     

    I also like the idea of leaving Miranda mostly out of this mix and letting him focus on 3rd as he has a chance to stick there. Just settle in and mash, young man.  A new position, even 1st base, makes last year all that more impressive. 

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    19 hours ago, Nick Nelson said:

    Could you cite a source? I've not heard this and didn't see it happen during a week down there. Swinging in the cages is not the same as live BP.

    https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/twins-alex-kirilloff-making-progress-with-wrist/
     

    Maybe this started after you left? Then again, this report didn’t give much detail so …

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    Revolving doors were invented as a way to relieve the stack pressure that occurs in high rise buildings. 

    They serve the same purpose in baseball... they can relieve pressure elsewhere in the building. 

     

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    I really hope AK is able to return to form, but if not turning to Julien (long term) as plan B makes the most sense to me. IDK about this season though. Seems like everyone except Buxton and Correa has a shot if AK doesn't fully recover. Yahoo fantasy baseball lists Vasquez as a C,1B..like I said everyone seems to have a shot.

    I prefer he is our 1B over one of these 6 guy is our 1B until they switch pitcher then it may be one of the others depending on the match up, how many out, what inning it is..Bah! give me Kent Hrbek.

    Here's hoping AK returns to form.

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