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  • Twins 2023 Position Analysis: Catcher


    Nick Nelson

    The Twins' second-biggest free agent signing of the offseason provides crucial stability at a position that was sorely lacking for it last year. What's the outlook behind the plate in 2023?

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    Projected Starter: Christian Vázquez
    Likely Backup: Ryan Jeffers
    Depth: Tony Wolters, Grayson Greiner, Chance Sisco
    Prospects: Chris Williams, Noah Cardenas

    THE GOOD
    Acquiring a veteran catcher was a top priority for the Twins this offseason, and they got their guy, signing Vázquez to three-year, $30 million deal as arguably the second-best free agent at the position. The 32-year-old could hardly be described as a star, but that's not what the Twins were seeking: they wanted stability following a season where they enjoyed very little of it behind the plate.

    Vázquez has had a few standout seasons, highlighted by a 2019 campaign where he slashed .276/.320/.477 with 23 home runs for Boston, but the Twins would be perfectly content with a repeat of 2022: average offense (99 OPS+) and steady defense combined with reliable availability. 

    The Twins continue to believe in Jeffers as their future behind the plate, but the presence of Vázquez means they don't need to entirely plan around that scenario in the short term, which is probably wise given how things have gone for Jeffers over the past two seasons. 

    While the righty-swinging Vázquez doesn't provide a platoon advantage, he's much more capable against right-handed pitchers and should allow the Twins to play Jeffers more to his strength against lefties, against whom he's slashed .263/.344/.450 in his career. 

    Both are considered very solid receivers who pitchers like to work with, giving the Twins a more consistent level of quality behind the plate after Gary Sánchez (still unsigned) caught 714 innings mostly out of necessity last season.

    THE BAD
    The Twins really need to hope Vázquez can maintain his record of staying healthy, because an injury could put the Twins right back into a familiar spot of grasping for answers behind the plate.

    Their depth was so sparse last year that when Jeffers went down for an extended period, they were forced to run out Caleb Hamilton for a few games and eventually acquired no-hit veteran Sany León from Cleveland's Triple-A team. He became more or less the primary starter.

    Minnesota has built out its experienced upper-level depth a bit with Wolters, Greiner, and Cisco, but those three combined to play four games in the majors last year. Meanwhile, there's no position in the Twins organization with less in the way of immediate pipeline impact. As discussed in this year's top prospect recap, catcher continues to be an area of extreme scarcity in this system.

    THE BOTTOM LINE
    The front office desperately needed to strengthen the catcher position this past offseason, and while they did, it could still hardly be described as a strength. Although I guess that depends on your assessment of Jeffers. 

    In some eyes, he could be viewed as one of the best backup catchers in the game – a still-developing impact starter who now has the luxury of coming along slowly with an established vet splitting time. If both guys stay healthy and Jeffers takes that next step, the Twins will have a catching setup that is the envy of the league. 

    The thing is, it's hard to count on that. Jeffers has seen his OPS drop from .791 in a strong rookie campaign to .670 in 2021 to .648 last year, and has struggled to stay healthy. You don't have to squint to see the potential of a two-way asset – I was reminded of his raw power while watching him repeatedly hit absolute tanks in BP last week – but the 25-year-old is already inching toward arbitration without even a 1-WAR season to his credit.

    Losing either of their top two backstops would force the Twins to delve into their murky depth, and while Vázquez has thankfully been pretty durable in the past, he also turns 33 this season.

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    57 minutes ago, Nine of twelve said:

    Some are saying to trade for a good catcher. That would be nice, but no team with a good catcher would trade him unless offered a significant overpay, and then they'd still say no. Some are saying to take the best catcher available with the 5th overall pick. OK, but then don't be angry when the player taken #6 becomes a star.

    We were so spoiled by having one of the five best catchers in history playing for us. Now we are seeing how difficult it is for catching to be a strength. While we should always strive to improve in every facet of the game, when it comes to catching we need to be satisfied with satisfactory.

    You can trade veterans for C prospects....that might or might now work. Did anyone say trade for a good veteran?

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    I actually like what we have, and the depth. And I didn't when the offseason began. 

    I think the Vazquez signing was major! He's an experienced and well regarded game caller and defender. If he only hits to his career norm quad slash numbers, I'm very happy for what he brings at the bottom of the order. And much like Castro did a few years ago for Garver, he provides an example and mentor for the still young Jeffers. 

    And I'm in the camp that actually likes Jeffers a lot, especially now as the "secondary" catcher. He's generally solid defensively, and I like the way he calls a game. The pitchers seem to like working with him. And that's still the most important part of being a backstop. Is there room for defensive improvement? Absolutely. His CS% in 2021, as I recall, was just slightly below league average. He definitely slid back in 2022. But I'm not sure how much of that was him, vs fault also with some of the pitchers not holding runners or being slow to the plate.

    Offensively, he needs to take a step forward. But the guy hit in college, hit in the minors, hit in his brief 2020 debut, and has real juice in his bat. We've seen glimpses of him being hot. So while I don't know what adjustments he needs to make, at 25yo, with a history of hitting, real power, and only 591 PA and 534 AB, I think there's real, legitimate hope for the bat to come around. At worst, he's a solid game caller with power as a #2.

    I just don't have a lot of faith in Sisco...once a well regarded prospect...ever doing much. But Greiner and Wolters have ML experience to work with the St Paul staff and that is HUGE. While neither is probably as good as Leon as a receiver, not having to trade for a #3 catcher...if and when needed...is not a bad thing.

    Regarding prospect depth, I have to agree that the organization is in short supply. I also have to agree that I just can't include Williams in that group. It's my understanding he's actually solid as a receiver from the mental standpoint, but he's been mostly a 1B/DH the last year or so. I have to speculate that part of that goes back to his shoulder injury in college.

    Carmago I think is interesting. It's my understanding that the basic skills are all there, but a little unrefined yet, but that he's actually pretty solid. He's got good power. I think he's going to end up as a mediocre hitter with power who might have a future as a decent backup. But he's not a top prospect unless the actual BAT starts to pick up.

    FIVE catchers drafted the last two years, along with a couple international signings, offers some hope. But they are all 3-5yrs from probably reaching the ML. A few have flashed a little in A ball, providing some hope. So a lot may be riding on Jeffers shoulders in regard to a step up.

    And that might just mean the Twins need to look at a trade in the next year or two, or another FA signing. But I actually like where we are heading in to 2023.

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    My hope will always be that the Twins are able to develop catching. 

    I am happy that Vazquez is here because he is needed and I have high hopes for him. 

    However, paying the inflated catching price to get good catching is the exact opposite of what I want to see happen.

    I'd rather we develop catching and sell at the inflated catching price. 

    The fact that you are buying (Vazquez) it means you don't have to the developed goods to sell (Jeffers). 

    I'm wondering who is next in line on the farm and hoping we grow something as soon as possible. 

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    4 hours ago, Riverbrian said:

    I'd rather we develop catching and sell at the inflated catching price. 

    The catching supply will always fall short of the demand, so selling could take place only if we are in the highly unlikely position of having a never-ending supply. The hoped-for goal is to develop catching and pay the salary required to keep the developed catcher.

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    1 hour ago, Nine of twelve said:

    The catching supply will always fall short of the demand, so selling could take place only if we are in the highly unlikely position of having a never-ending supply. The hoped-for goal is to develop catching and pay the salary required to keep the developed catcher.

    No doubt that that is better than buying at the inflated price. 😉

    However... According to baseballtradevalues. If the Twins wanted to acquire Adley Rutschman from the Orioles. It would cost us - Brooks Lee, Pablo Lopez, Jose Miranda and Joe Ryan. I'd take that trade if I was the Orioles and be happy with whoever at the catching position for overall improvement of the 26 man product.  

    The Rutschman price tag is high I admit so let's look at Sean Murphy. Still High but not quite as high. Sean would cost us Joe Ryan and Jose Miranda. I'd also take that trade and be happy with whoever at the Catching position because Miranda alone should exceed Murphy's offensive production. 

    Now consider the numbers provided by Hire Dan Gladden earlier in this thread. 

    Here is the games caught leader list for 2022:

     

    J.T. Realmuto, PHI [C] 133
    Sean Murphy, OAK [C|DH] 116
    Cal Raleigh, SEA [C] 115
    Martin Maldonado, HOU [C] 113
    Jose Trevino, NYY [C] 112
    Jonah Heim, TEX [C] 111
    Jacob Stallings, MIA [C] 110
    Will Smith, LAD [C|DH] 109
    Christian Vazquez, HOU [C] 108
    Keibert Ruiz, WAS [C] 106
    Austin Hedges, CLE [C] 105
    Elias Diaz, COL [C] 104
    Austin Nola, SD [C] 101
    Carson Kelly, ARI [C] 100

    You can get back a better hitter who will play more games for the price of inflated catcher value. 

    It's possible that the odds of Jeffers becoming inflated catcher value decreased as soon as Vazquez put pen to paper. 

    Don't get me wrong... I'm glad that Vazquez is here... we need him but I'm looking to the pipeline again in hopes that the Twins can develop that guy. If we ever do... no doubt I would consider cashing in because selling high is smart. 

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    Article makes Jeffers look like he is always on the IL but one stint because of a freak wild pitch in the dirt during a warmup session breaks his thumb.  He played through such break for almost 2 weeks and was hot with the bat at the time plus trying to throw a ball.  So one stint and people think he is buxton part 2.  

    Jeffers is playing pretty well in S/T and has out-performed Vasquez the anointed the savior the position.  Now the arguments from readers will be that it is only S/T performance and Jeffers still is awful.  Well, if it is only S/T then Vasquez who was "sick" to start game play and has masterfully hit .077 thus far.  

    Twins have depth with these two guys and Farmer as emergency, so we are good for now.  Let's not forget that Jeffers self taught himself to be a catcher and didn't have a dedicated coach till getting drafted.  The twins don't seem to be to worried about throwing guys out, when you put the guy in such an awkward catching position that is flexible with blocking balls or throwing runners out.  He did throw someone out yesterday so maybe seeing his confidence will grow seeing him get a guy.

    25 years old, calls a good game, solid receiver and guys like to pitch to him.  Mgmt will play the guys equally and not tax either one.  If Jeffers we aren't stuck when he plays unlike what most readers think.

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    I agree with umterp23 that with Farmer as the emergency catcher, and two solid starters, we are good for 2023.  Yeah, we'd all like a catching prospect like Rutschman in the minors, but the draft has yet to provide that at the correct drafting position.

    I agree with another poster that said if there is a good catching prospect in the 2nd round maybe we should grab him and work to have him ready when Vasquez's contract ends.

    The one thing I'd like to see in 2023 is for Jeffers to improve his caught stealing percentage and the percentage of blocking balls in the dirt.  This will be a good development year for him and I believe we'll know much more about our catching strength at the end of this season.

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    7 hours ago, Nine of twelve said:

    The catching supply will always fall short of the demand, so selling could take place only if we are in the highly unlikely position of having a never-ending supply.

    We acted like it was a never-ended supply when we disposed of two of them in a connected series of trades just under a year ago.

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    10 hours ago, ashbury said:

    We acted like it was a never-ended supply when we disposed of two of them in a connected series of trades just under a year ago.

    Remember that we also received a catcher in those trades. Even so, it's certainly a risk trading an established catcher.

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