Game Recap: Rangers 4, Twins 3

I said it in the game thread, but this team simply isn't a contender. I know they're battling injuries, but the core group of young players made an appearance today. Max Kepler provided a homer, but has been bad nearly all year, and is unusable against left handers. Buxton is very, very good, but often injures. I'm not sure you can hold that against anyone in particular, but when two of your best three hitters (Donaldson and Buxton) are not durable, you're taking a huge risk. Willians is a fun player, but he's nothing more than league average. Miguel Sano's timing is absolutely atrocious, and Jorge Polanco and Mitch Garver have both taken steps back. The bullpen that many had questions about appears to be one of the worst groups in baseball, and the former manager of the year looks like a deer in headlights when his team isn't smashing the MLB home run record. I'm not going to be done watching this team, but it's time for many of us, myself included, to reevaluate are expectations. This team isn't going to make the playoffs, nor are they going to push for a playoff spot, barring a drastic turnaround, which is honestly just optimism with nothing to back it up. The Twins are likely going to have some tough decisions to make come July, and I tried to rank who we could see go, following a 1-3 series against a bottom three team in the league. 

Remember the 2020 Twins team that was 36-24, playing all their games in the Central?

Was that team really an above-average team? This year the club will play less than half their schedule against the Central. They’re 5-4 against the Central, and 6-15 against everyone else.

Good for Gordon, it’s been a long, slow journey. But, he did himself, and the family, proud today.

What..!? Are you telling me hard hit rate and barrel ball pct, and exit velocity don't matter with a runner on 2nd and no outs? I thought it was a contest to hit the hardest ball? I'm shocked that moving a runner over or hitting to the gap works. I thought for sure swinging for a 3 run Homer with nobody on was the way to go. Launch angle must need adjusted. Sarcasm. RBI is so meaningless. Why would anyone want to bat in a run. Smh

What..!? Are you telling me hard hit rate and barrel ball pct, and exit velocity don't matter with a runner on 2nd and no outs? I thought it was a contest to hit the hardest ball? I'm shocked that moving a runner over or hitting to the gap works. I thought for sure swinging for a 3 run Homer with nobody on was the way to go. Launch angle must need adjusted. Sarcasm. RBI is so meaningless. Why would anyone want to bat in a run. Smh

Absolutely. While many here panicked about the team's bullpen and run production early on, they were shouted down by the spreadsheet geeks: "Stop worrying. The BABIP is incredibly low, barrel % rate is high, and the avg. MPH exit velocity is in the top 10% of the league". Who the heck cares if they don't get hits with men on base? You can't create a team based on advanced stats alone.

Meanwhile, Eddie Rosario is delivering clutch hits for Cleveland. He won them a ballgame a couple nights ago in extras. I don't care what his OPBS+ is, I know the guy got clutch hits when needed. No, I'm not pining to get Eddie back, I'm not going down that dark hallway. What I am saying is that we have zero clutch performers now that he's gone, and it doesn't matter what their stats are because they are not hitting when they need to. None of 'em.

Twins have now lost home series to Seattle, Pittsburgh, and Texas. They are getting absolutely smoked by just about everyone and are absolutely the laughing stock of MLB right now. This is worse than the worst case scenario anyone could have imagined going into the year.

This team is bad. Seeing them regress isn’t a surprise, but they’re a train wreck right now. Nearly have the players on the roster are but shadows of their former selves. Plus the hitters are as brittle as can be... not sure what they can do to fix this. They won’t lose 100+ games, but 90+ seems realistic.

Can we just fast forward through this season and get to 2022, please? (2022 can't possibly be worse, right?)

I apologize. Just upset at our team. I've never been to Minnesota. I played for the Twins in teeball at the age of 5, and the Vikings in peewee football. My dad showed me how to read the sports page at that point, and I've been diehard since. This was 45 years ago, and 90 percent of my wardrobe references the Twins or Vikings. Just very dissapointed.

New manager and hitting coach please....

If not, please quit taxing an already struggling bullpen by taking starting pitchers out of the game with less than 90 pitches without factoring in change in velocity or mechanics or pitcher reported fatigue

Thanks

Coin flip on one run games?

I said it in the game thread, but this team simply isn't a contender. I know they're battling injuries, but the core group of young players made an appearance today. Max Kepler provided a homer, but has been bad nearly all year, and is unusable against left handers. Buxton is very, very good, but often injures. I'm not sure you can hold that against anyone in particular, but when two of your best three hitters (Donaldson and Buxton) are not durable, you're taking a huge risk. Willians is a fun player, but he's nothing more than league average. Miguel Sano's timing is absolutely atrocious, and Jorge Polanco and Mitch Garver have both taken steps back. The bullpen that many had questions about appears to be one of the worst groups in baseball, and the former manager of the year looks like a deer in headlights when his team isn't smashing the MLB home run record. I'm not going to be done watching this team, but it's time for many of us, myself included, to reevaluate are expectations. This team isn't going to make the playoffs, nor are they going to push for a playoff spot, barring a drastic turnaround, which is honestly just optimism with nothing to back it up. The Twins are likely going to have some tough decisions to make come July, and I tried to rank who we could see go, following a 1-3 series against a bottom three team in the league. 

I agree with everything but Astudillo.  All year writers seem to want to say something derogatory about him.   But he is a bench player and a utility man.  If we want to jump on a bench player - take Cave.  Astudillo has 0.4 WAR as a bench player. He is 288 with a 758 OPS.  As a bench player who is number 6 in WAR on the team he is contributing and has spirit.  When someone is better they can take his place, but I am happy to have him on the team. 

Remember the 2020 Twins team that was 36-24, playing all their games in the Central?

 

Was that team really an above-average team? This year the club will play less than half their schedule against the Central. They’re 5-4 against the Central, and 6-15 against everyone else.

 

Good for Gordon, it’s been a long, slow journey. But, he did himself, and the family, proud today.

Could be.  Though they were 12 games over .500 against the NL Central last year.   White Sox and Indians have winning records against teams out of the division but the other three all have losing records this year..   0-7 in extras and other blown games have been a team effort.   I think the Twins are capable of scoring more in the late innings, especially with a runner on second.  They are capable of playing better defense and they are capable of pitching better.     I haven't given up on them but playing better is up to them.

This team is just bad.  I started the season wondering how deep we would go in the playoffs.  Now I'm wondering who we're going to trade and what we'll get in return during the fire sale at the trade deadline.

What a dreadful team. Sano, what do you do about an albatross like that? At least, The Turtle is hitting.

They need to get to the playoffs and add to their record by losing their next few playoff games in extra innings. What's the MLB record for consecutive extra-innings losses?

first time, long time.

as a guy that fell in love with the city and the team it's been a tough go watching what's been going on with the team this year.

i have faith but i can't tell you why with the bullpen being what it is this year and the lack of run support. the bats have to come alive.

and i know it's not current but if you think sano is an albatross - and i really like him overall - donaldson is going to become the car wreck you can't look away from.

What's the MLB record for consecutive extra-innings losses?

I'm willing to bet we're watching that record streak in real-time.

Perhaps we can call Korn-Ferry. I hear they have an encompassing knowledge of all things baseball.....

I always thought that as the hitters see a pitcher 2 and 3 times through the lineup that they were supposed to get better but it seems like the Twins score some runs at the beginning of games but can't score late ever?

Beautiful day at Target Field today. Very happy for Gordon and he made several nice plays in the field. It was interesting that Big Mike was pounding the zone and the game was moving along nicely. It ground to a halt when Robles came in.

Some genius in their analytics department needs to tell Rocco that when your bullpen sucks running 3-4 relievers out there every game is not a recipe for success.

I apologize. Just upset at our team. I've never been to Minnesota. I played for the Twins in teeball at the age of 5, and the Vikings in peewee football. My dad showed me how to read the sports page at that point, and I've been diehard since. This was 45 years ago, and 90 percent of my wardrobe references the Twins or Vikings. Just very dissapointed.

So, you were about 17 when your club won a World Series, and about 21 when they won another? Not bad. That’ll make a loyal fan out of many a non-resident follower!

On behalf of the entire state of Minnesota, I’d like to sincerely apologize for the rest of your 20’s, your 30’s, and your 40’s. And looking at the current landscape, preemptively for your 50’s. Hang in there, friend.

Some things just keep repeating and repeating:

Twins bullpen blows another save

Twins bullpen loses its 7th extra inning game

Byron Buxton is injured

Miggy Sano strikes out again,,,and again

Twins hitters can't hit with RISP

and finally...

KKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

Thats all this team does now....strike out, strike out and strike out some more. Double digits just about every night. While the pen is just awful, just about every game, the hitters have become the equally as lousy culprits.

All of them. Donaldson suddenly is as lost as all the rest of the them. His stats over the past couple weeks are putrid.

And of course, its always nice when you are 0-6 in extra innings to start out with a wild pitch. Twins have scored in only 1 of the 7 games...with a runner at 2nd and no outs. thats almost not possible.

Its no longer early. All the analytics in your computers can't change 11-19 (6-17 over the last 23) The team is broken...just about every aspect. Unless they are ahead by 10 with 2 innings to go, no win is a lock with these guys.

Sad

I listened to bits and pieces of this game. When Buxton pulled up in the 9th and his obvious replacement would be Cave and then I saw the final score, I thought this is a stick a fork in it type of game. With Arraez out, Kiriloff out, Sano presumably out of shape and closing in on a 50% SO rate, Thielbar pitching in a close game (Waddell pitching in a close game two days ago) and Buxton pulling up with something and Cave is his replacement...it does feel like it is not in the cards this year. Reusse is describing the AAA pitching staff as mostly never were veterans and you can't help but think there needs to be profound reset on the roster. Give us something to hope for.

And let some of these guys pitch 6 - 7 innings please.

There's nothing quite like an oldish, not very good team to make you think about going to the driving range and Gophers football and start speculating about unrealistic trades for young, affordable aces. Sano, Cave, and Astudillo for Glasnow?

I'd say they shoud sign Berrios, sign Buxton, sign Arraez and create some mild optimism and Big Mike, Nellie, Happ, and maybe one of our new relievers can get back on track for a few weeks and send them out to someone who has a chance.

29th place team ... Standings don't lie

29th place team ... Standings don't lie

This is the truth.

@jkcarew. Yes friend. Thankyou! Remember those days we'll. Would actually be able to pick up the games on radio from Cleveland Ohio. Had to be clear night and after 9pm. I could make out about 1 out of every 3 words. And of course when they came to town I'd cheer them on in the stands.

Coin flip on one run games?

This happened once this season, and the Twins even snuck in a two-headed coin. Umpire: Call it in the air, Rocco.

Rocco: Tails

I feel like I'm watching A train wreck each time this team isn't ahead by 6 or more runs. And the ghost of playoff losses is following this team into extra-inning games as well.

This team is playing themselves into a not even respectable worst team in baseball.

So, you were about 17 when your club won a World Series, and about 21 when they won another? Not bad. That’ll make a loyal fan out of many a non-resident follower!

 

On behalf of the entire state of Minnesota, I’d like to sincerely apologize for the rest of your 20’s, your 30’s, and your 40’s. And looking at the current landscape, preemptively for your 50’s. Hang in there, friend.

For me, its the journey rather than the destination.   I really enjoyed the 2001-2010 decade regardless of the playoff failures.    Three of the closest pennant races in the history of baseball (2006, 2008, 2009) including some comebacks from bigger holes than we currently face made that an awesome decade in my book.  .  

Well they have now driven nail #1 (of 3) into the coffin of this season by losing 3 of 4 to a team that is no better than a .500 team and while at home. At this rate, nails #2 and 3 will be driven into the coffin by Memorial Day- just 3 weeks away. Some want to fast forward to 2022 but lots of changes will have to be made and Cruz will be gone. Right now things look bleak and the farm doesn't appear to have much help- especially in the pitching department. I still hope they can turn things around but I'm getting more pessimistic every day. Yes, you can blame the bullpen because that is how it looks but the offense isn't much better. If Turtle leads this team in offensive categories, we are in trouble (sorry Turtle).