Exploring The Back-End Of The 40-Man Roster

I would start with Boshers or Kinley.

Boshers is 30 years old and will at best be the last man out of someone's bullpen

Kinley's chances of making this bullpen have decreased greatly since we have signed three releivers. Boshers now and Kinley when we sign Darvish

The early idea floated that Moya was going to be dropped just doesn't seem like a good long term plan

While Boshers has had his moments I have to ask "Who would pick him up?" Twins have been one of the only teams to employ, soft-throwing, funky-delivery guys from the Independent scrap heap

Moya seems to have more upside if we're looking toward a more prosperous future

My drop order would be

1) Boshers

2) Kinley (we're in spend mode so whats another $50,000 to send him back)

3) I'd look to move Pressly, Grossman as part of a trade

4) Enns

5) Sell Vargas to the Ham Fighters for 3 Round trip tickets to Yu's homeland

Boshers should be gone with the Reed signing. I also agree that Enns is on the boundary but he should get a shot as a reliever (in AAA). Moya shouldn't be going anywhere, I think he has a bright future for the Twins.

It seems pretty clear that Duke and Rogers will be the lefties in the bullpen with Moya next in line at AAA. I believe Boshers is out of options meaning he is basically gone already, so the Twins might as well waive him now. Next up would be Kinley. I don't think he has any real chance to beat out Pressly or Duffey (or a healthy Chargois).

Yes, the Twins need to make some 40-man moves.

They have NO 40-man reserves in the hitting department.

But, they have a good chance of opening the season with May and Pineda on the 60-day DL. Plus, possibly, Hughes and maybe Chargois.

They would still have 10 or so pitchers to find homes at AAA and AA ball. They currently have 16 on the rosters there, with another 3-4 that COULD move up from Ft. Myers more likely than any of the 16 moving down. Of course, disabled list will claim a few.

The Twins have 2 names replaceable. Boshers if you add a bullpen arm and Slegers if you add a starter. Enns has value being a lefty (as does Moya). Mejia might be odd-man out if you add to the rotation. Pressley and even Rodnoy (now) could be expendable.

And, is Kinley worthy of a season-long roster spot, now.

What you also unfortunately have is 7 arms that WON'T start the season with the Twins and it could be debatable if they would graduate to fulltime service during the season. Gonsalves could be the closest, but you have Jorge, Romero, Littell, Thorpe, Curtiss and Moya. Right now, these guys ARE above the 15 currently on the AAA/AA rosters with only Reed and possibly Tyler Jay ahead of them, but still not guys who would start the season with the Twins. 

So it will be interesting to see the musical chairs. Especially when a roster spot or two NEEDS to be kept open to bring up temporary guys if someone just goes on the normal DL during the early part of the season.

Unless Kinley is more reliable than Pressly there is no way to justify the roster spot. He doesn’t help as the low leverage reliever. He can’t be optioned and that flexibility is valuable to a team that should be competitive.

Moya's name was only thrown out there by Berardino as speculation of him not coming to Twins Fest next weekend. There is no way that they would drop him at this point. Two other lefties on the 40 man would be dropped before him.

Did see a quick retraction (or is it a retwaction when it's on twitter) from Berardino 

What's your take on how the 40-man dilemma will shake out Seth? 

I would shed 0 tears over Kinley being cut loose and a 25 man spot opening up. 

I would think Boshers and Slegers, then maybe Enns would be my preference.  

Like so many others have already said, Boshers should be the first man overboard. And at this point, keeping Kinley around strikes me as a head-scratcher too. All that aside, I'm starting to think that maybe a trade of some sort could be in the wind.

Bye Bye Buddy

Kinley made no sense when they drafted him - we had too many good minor league arms to justify having him clog the bullpen for a year.  Now that they have signed three veteran BP arms he is definitely not worth keeping.

I agree on Boshers and I am afraid that soon Slegers will be a minor league star and a major league bust.  He seems perfect for an Asian trial.  

I am also hoping that after the starter sweepstakes ends we do not do any more adding and keep developing our young talent. 

Not sure why people are mentioning Slegers. Even if you don't believe in him, he still has potential to be a major league pitcher and there is no reason to remove him right now. There are definitely other 40 man options that make a lot more sense.

I could see wasting a 25 man spot for future success if the Twins were anticipating being a bad team this year. But since it appears that they are going to be in the running, they should probably drop the rule 5 guy.

Did see a quick retraction (or is it a retwaction when it's on twitter) from Berardino 

 

What's your take on how the 40-man dilemma will shake out Seth? 

We are going to know in the next day or two.

Boshers is #1 and everyone else is a distant #2 until they have to make another decision. I can't believe Moyà would even be mentioned. I would rather release Grossman than Moyà. At least we have Granite to replace Grossman. Good Lefties don't grow on trees. There are a lot of Bosher types out there.

The team should return or trade the rule 5 pick Kinley first. You would only lose one player from the 40 man roster. By keeping Kinley and waiving anyone else you potentially could lose two players on this one decision. You would lose the waived player plus Kinley as well if he doesn't make the 25 man roster.

A trade to attempt to keep Kinley won't work in this case because he would have to pass through waivers after being removed from the 40 man roster to make room for Reed.

Moya's name was only thrown out there by Berardino as speculation of him not coming to Twins Fest next weekend. There is no way that they would drop him at this point. Two other lefties on the 40 man would be dropped before him.

I really don't like how Berardino communicated his speculative prediction.  Setting aside the head-scratching logic, why state only that the odd man out could be Moya?  He should have at least provide the bizarre reasoning...or stated Moya's absence as an independent fact for readers to draw their own conclusions.

Boshers is #1 and everyone else is a distant #2 until they have to make another decision. I can't believe Moyà would even be mentioned. I would rather release Grossman than Moyà. At least we have Granite to replace Grossman. Good Lefties don't grow on trees. There are a lot of Bosher types out there.

Had to do a double take. Thought I posted this and didn’t remember it