Are The Twins Suddenly Sellers?

Falvey got fooled by first half since the Indians and Royals under performed.

Only need to look at runs differential and Astros/RedSox and understand 2017 is not the Twins year to go for it.

Patience is tough after so many dreadful years but the GM has to understand the percentages of roster peak performance vs. the rest of the league.

The Twins are set up for 2019 (assuming Gonsalves and Romero have growing pains next year like Berrios did last year) and beyond.

2019 Starters:

Berrios

Free Agent Ace

Mejia

Gonsalves

Romero

Back Ups - May, Stewart, Jorge, Thorpe, Rodriguez

They shouldn't suddenly sell after a 3 game sweep in LA, just as they shouldn't remove themselves from the sales floor if they win 2 or 3 in Oakland.

I'm pro sell, but I'm also not entirely opposed to buying if they're willing to get long term pieces for the pitching staff. I think the worst thing they can do is exactly what they've done so far; add a rental pitcher and nothing else. Either sell veteran players at peak value, or sell of some of the younger guys to bring in pitching help, but enough of the half in half out stuff. I don't have much faith in them acquiring much help at this point, so hopefully they buck the trend of the past and actually move Ervin and/or Kintzler rather than watch their value depress to preseason levels. 

It certainly is touch and go. What convinces me isn't so much the team's chances to make the playoffs (diminishing), but the stark reality of the two best teams in baseball: the Astros and the Dodgers. This year's Twins have just about zero chance to compete at that level. Houston was the first shock, when we saw what buzz saws their batting order was. Good pitching, too. But then came the Dodgers. Buzz saws with a little nitro in the gasoline. And we didn't even see their best pitcher. 

Yeah, if the plummet continues for the next few days, sell. Sell all the guys that definitely won't be here in 2019, and that could include either or both catchers, Hughes, Santiago, Santana, Dozier, etc. Make room for the late season experiments. The time is nigh for Gonsalves, Gordon, Garver, Romero, Stewart, Jorge, Rosario, Curtiss, Reed, and some of the lesser prospects that are doing well in AAA. 

I agree with most of whats been previously stated. I think the plan the whole year should have been sale at peak. Maybe this is peak season. Hopefully they have been setting up trade possibilities long before now and those trade partners have not gone somewhere else.

Not sure why the Twins should be buying long term assests at the trade deadline. Aren't those going to a bit overpriced compared to the rest of the year?  

I heard the Brewers were looking for a 2nd baseman. Food for thought.

I am uncertain that we can get anything for our available players.  They just do not have the same value we see on the national level.  I would hate to have high expectations even if we do sell.  This is a hard time because we have a lot of needs.

LOL...I have been saying this all season long.  It did not take a rocket scientist to figure out that the early record was a mirage built upon some unsustainable performances (Sano > 1.000 OPS and Santan < 1.00 ERA).  I think that believing this has caused the FO to make a lot of errors.

At the same time, I will also state taht the errors are not big ones and nor do I believe that the team should be in "Sell, Sell, Sell" mode just to sell.  I think that we are getting close to putting together a team that can compete, we just need to figure out a handful of holes.  So, if the offer is not good enough, dont move Dozier or Santana who can help you next season compete for a true division crown.

At the same time, some of the dead wood needs to be discarded and prospects need to be brought up immediately (they should have been brought up 95 games ago) to demonstrate their fitness to play at this level.  

Garver needs to remplace Giminez.  The older relief pitchers need to be DFAd and younger guys brought up and given the opportunities:  DJ Baxendale from AAA and Luke Bard from AA for sure.  Two AAA starters, David Hurlbut and Aaron Siegers need to be given the chance to see if they can be 4th/5th starters for the Twins.

By doing these initial steps we can see if any of those guys can help this team going forward.  Otherwise, we can address the needs in the offseason.  Either way, it needs to happen now.

They shouldn't suddenly sell after a 3 game sweep in LA, 

Yes, yes they should.

I don't know if I would call giving up Huascar Ynoa as being fooled and in need of a lesson in run differential.  You could argue because he added a pitcher who 'might' be able to keep teams to less than 5 runs, that he understands how to improve run differential.  :-)

If you are buying when you should be selling then you are fooled.

I'm fine if they can't find any good deals for selling (don't sell for the sake of selling) but you should not be buying.

I think you listen at this point. As long as we don't sell just to sell. I do think you try to get something for Dozier at this point.

I agree we should be looking to move Kinsler and Dozier, but I'm not convinced Santana is worth selling, unless we get a great offer.

We have control for 2 more years, and it appears likely he will be effective throughout that. The rest of the rotation has plenty of room for auditioning starters, and there's enough already there that next year and 2019 should not be steps back, so he may well be involved in a pennant race.

Let's put it this way: if the Twins could sign a front line, 30-something starter to a short term contract over the winter, wouldn't that sound good? So why are we getting rid of one?

Meh, I think they should sell just for the fun of selling.

Not what I meant.

Yes, yes they should.

If this FO is making franchise altering decisions based on only 3 games then this team is in serious trouble. There is a lot more that should (and certainly does) go into deciding whether to buy or sell.