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    Andrew Thares

    With all the excitement surrounding the 2019 Minnesota Twins, it is hard not to get wrapped up in this season, and to be frank, Twins fans should be. Seasons like this don’t come around that often. That being said, at some point, even if the Twins make a run all the way to the World Series, the 2019 season will come to an end, and every team will need to quickly shift into building their rosters for 2020. For the Twins, that focus will be centered around rebuilding the starting rotation, as Jake Odorizzi, Michael Pineda, Kyle Gibson, and Martin Perez ($7.5 million team option) will be free agents at season’s end. So, I thought it would be a good idea to look into who might be some of the big names the Twins could be linked to this winter.

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    The first area of discussion will be whether the Twins should offer Odorizzi, Pineda or Gibson a qualifying offer. Last year, the qualifying offer amount was 1-year and $17.9 million, so we can project that number to be somewhere between $18 million and $19 million this year. Thanks to Kyle Gibson’s poor performance of late, and the 60-game suspension handed down to Michael Pineda for use of a masking agent, the only likely candidate for the Twins to extend a qualifying offer to is Jake Odorizzi. If you want a deeper dive on what might go into that decision for the Twins, Cody Christie wrote an excellent piece on the subject earlier this week.

    The Twins also have a few options within their organization, like Lewis Thorpe, Devin Smeltzer or Brusdar Graterol, but their best options might come from outside the organization. Luckily for the Twins, they will have plenty of money to spend this winter, as they will have only roughly $90 million on the books entering the offseason. That’s with only losing Jason Castro and Jonathan Schoop from the lineup. So, who are the top pitchers that the Twins could look to spend some money on this winter? Let’s take a look.

    Gerrit Cole

    Among the list of upcoming free agent starting pitchers, Gerrit Cole will most definitely be the prize of the class. With Cole just turning 29 on Sunday, he will have a few more prime seasons ahead of him. Cole is practically a lock to receive a qualifying offer from the Houston Astros, but with a pitcher of his caliber, it shouldn’t have much of an impact on teams wanting to sign him like it did for other starting pitchers in recent years... pitchers like Dallas Keuchel and Lance Lynn. So far in 2019, Cole has a 2.81 ERA (2.88 FIP), with 13.58 K/9 and 2.19 BB/9 in 176 1/3 innings pitched, across 28 starts.

    Hyun-Jin Ryu

    For much of the 2019 season, Hyun-Jin Ryu was the clear-cut front-runner for the National League Cy Young Award, as he had a 1.27 ERA through his first 15 starts. However, he has seen some regression lately, as he has a 4.31 ERA over his last 11 starts, including giving up 21 earned runs over his last four starts. Despite this, Ryu should still remain a top target for teams looking to add a front-line starting pitcher. For his career, Ryu has a 3.03 ERA (3.35 FIP) in 719 1/3 innings.

    Madison Bumgarner

    We all heard plenty about Madison Bumgarner as a potential Twins target before the trade deadline.. Well this winter they will have another shot at the one-time ace, as he will become a free agent. Much like Cole, Bumgarner is a strong candidate for a qualifying offer. However, unlike Cole, there is a real chance this qualifying offer could impact teams’ willingness to pursue him. Despite a slightly higher ERA this season (3.81 in 2019 vs 3.26 in 2018), Bumgarner has done a lot to help his market value in 2019, as his strikeout and walk numbers are greatly improved from where they were a season ago. Additionally, Bumgarner has shown that he is back to full health, as he has already made 30 starts in 2019.

    Zack Wheeler

    Much like Madison Bumgarner, Zack Wheeler was linked to the Twins before the trade deadline, and also like Bumgarner, he wasn’t actually moved, as the New York Mets surprised everyone when they decided to be buyers instead of sellers at the deadline. Wheeler is yet another likely candidate to receive a qualifying offer, and if that’s the case, he too could see that impact his signing. Wheeler has had a bit of down year in 2019, has his ERA is a full run higher than it was in 2018. However, many of the underlying metrics suggest he is still the same pitcher he has been over the course of his career.

    Cole Hamels

    Despite being well into the latter part of his career, Hamels is still preforming at the top of his game. So far in 2019, Hamels has a 3.69 ERA (3.89 FIP) in 126 2/3 innings. Additionally, Hamels’ strikeout numbers are still around where they were in his 20’s, pitching for the Philadelphia Phillies. It’s hard to say if Hamels will get a qualifying offer, but it would make some sense for the Cubs to do so, as he could easily be worth a higher-priced 1-year deal.

    Stephen Strasburg

    Stephen Strasburg’s availability this offseason will rely entirely on what he decides to do with his 4-year $100 million player option that he has at season’s end. If he chooses to opt out, Strasburg will join Cole and Ryu among top starting pitchers available this winter. Despite being overshadowed by Max Scherzer over the past few seasons, Strasburg remains as one of the top starting pitchers in the game. In 2019, Strasburg’s 5.3 fWAR ranks sixth in major league baseball. What happens with Strasburg will undoubtedly be the most intriguing story line as the 2019-2020 offseason gets underway.

    As we can see, there are plenty of options available for the Twins to target to bolster their starting rotation, and I didn’t even get into the possibility of making a trade. What the Twins actually end up doing is still very much up in the air, but one thing is for sure, Twins Daily will be there every step of the way to cover to Twins, even as we start to hunker down for the winter. What are your thoughts, do you see any of these pitchers sporting a Twins uniform in 2020, and if so, who do you think is is the most likely candidate?

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    But in all seriousness, I'd be shocked if the Twins forked out money for any of the free agent pitchers you listed. I think we absolutely need a top flight arm in the rotation, but I don't see it happening via free agency this coming season.

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    This team has fifty or more million it can add to the budget, and still make a profit. Y'all have to stop listening to the owners about payroll.... Or not. Up to you. But they have plenty of budget.

    Good to know that we have a Twins' accountant on board to clarify what the "break even" point is for making a profit.

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    Just my opinion, but I don’t think there is any chance the Twins go after a big name guy. It’s just not something they’ve ever done. I don’t care about regime change, I think it’s an ownership thing. So, I’m already crossing Cole, Strasburg, and Ryu off the list. Zero chance there.

    Hamels, Bumgarner, or Wheeler fit right into the Twins wheelhouse, IMO. They can probably be had on cheaper short-term deals and have the name recognition to satisfy the PR side (plenty of fans will be excited about Hamels/MadBum). Just enough for them to point and say, “see, it’s the biggest free agent pitcher deal of all time....please believe that we’re all in (even though we’re not) and please buy some season tickets (before you realize that we’re not).”

    Don’t get me wrong, they should absolutely be in on the biggest free agents out there. The payroll is almost nothing. The core is young and cheap. It’s one of those proverbial, “if they don’t do it now, they never will,” type of scenario. I’m leaning towards the “never will” coming to fruition and we’ll be left massively underwhelmed like we are every year.

    You still disappointed we came in 2nd on Darvish?

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    You still disappointed we came in 2nd on Darvish?

     

    Where do you expect to get three good pitchers next year, if you don't sign good ones? Also, Yu has been good the second half this year, isn't on the IL, and isn't suspended. He's also under contract past this year, so one spot would be filed for next year....

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    They made money last year, revenue is up, and more than fifty million is coming off the books. Those are all publicly available facts. Do you have any evidence otherwise?

    You haven't convinced me. I recall you inferred the Pohlads should spent like drunken sailors because their money was all inherited.

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    Where do you expect to get three good pitchers next year, if you don't sign good ones? Also, Yu has been good the second half this year, isn't on the IL, and isn't suspended. He's also under contract past this year, so one spot would be filed for next year....

    King Theo has done everything except hang a for sale sign around his neck.

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    King Theo has done everything except hang a for sale sign around his neck.

    Really?

     

    Darvish has given the Cubs 157 innings of 108 ERA+ pitching, with a 1.13 WHIP and almost 11 K/9. 3.5 K/W. 2.69 ERA in the second half.

     

    I highly doubt the Cubs are looking to trade Darvish, but if they are, I hope Falvine are all over it. He'd be the Twins best or second best starter, now and probably next year.

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    You haven't convinced me. I recall you inferred the Pohlads should spent like drunken sailors because their money was all inherited.

     

    I, of course, have never said they should spend like the top teams. Not once. But sure, put this out there.

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    Do we see the Twins trying to get to 4 starters and then playing the opener/long-man game with the 5th starter?  

     

    I think that's one way to make this process a little bit easier.  I think after next season (if not sooner) you start to be in a position for some of that starting depth Graterol/Balazovic/Colina/Duran/Ober/Alcala/etc to hopefully be ready to push for spots.  

     

    I would rather do the opener/long-man thing with whomever and try to get through it that way than to overpay someone or sign someone mediocre long-term

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    Really?

     

    Darvish has given the Cubs 157 innings of 108 ERA+ pitching, with a 1.13 WHIP and almost 11 K/9. 3.5 K/W. 2.69 ERA in the second half.

     

    I highly doubt the Cubs are looking to trade Darvish, but if they are, I hope Falvine are all over it. He'd be the Twins best or second best starter, now and probably next year.

    Spend some time on the Cubbie Board. It's pretty widespread the window is prematurely closing due to King Theo's lousy free agent signings. He would most likely take board favorite Nick Anderson even up, if the Rays would pick up the remainder of Darvish's contract.

     

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    Spend some time on the Cubbie Board. It's pretty widespread the window is prematurely closing due to King Theo's lousy free agent signings. He would most likely take board favorite Nick Anderson even up, if the Rays would pick up the remainder of Darvish's contract.

    Well, you read all kinds of stuff on a fan board, that's for sure.

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    No truer words ever spoken. When I need a good laugh, I often go back to the Darvish meltdown thread.

     

    He'd be the best or 2nd best pitcher on this roster right now. And, he'd be here past this year. They'll have to sign at least 2 starters, if not three, this off season.

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    Spend some time on the Cubbie Board. It's pretty widespread the window is prematurely closing due to King Theo's lousy free agent signings. He would most likely take board favorite Nick Anderson even up, if the Rays would pick up the remainder of Darvish's contract.

     

     

    No truer words ever spoken. When I need a good laugh, I often go back to the Darvish meltdown thread.

     

    Opinions on Twins board = worthy of mockery

     

    Opinions on Cubs board = an accurate representation of the Cubs front office

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    I thought not pursuing and making a push for Marcus Stroman when he was availbe from the Jay's, was stupid on our part not to make that trade happen?  he would have been a good fit here, wouldn't have broken the bank with a trade using a couple highly rated minor league players included in the deal. missing Stroman was nuts??? now were back to who???? do we not pay stupid money to sign with us?

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    Just my opinion, but I don’t think there is any chance the Twins go after a big name guy. It’s just not something they’ve ever done. I don’t care about regime change, I think it’s an ownership thing. So, I’m already crossing Cole, Strasburg, and Ryu off the list. Zero chance there.

     

    Hamels, Bumgarner, or Wheeler fit right into the Twins wheelhouse, IMO. They can probably be had on cheaper short-term deals and have the name recognition to satisfy the PR side (plenty of fans will be excited about Hamels/MadBum). Just enough for them to point and say, “see, it’s the biggest free agent pitcher deal of all time....please believe that we’re all in (even though we’re not) and please buy some season tickets (before you realize that we’re not).”

     

    Don’t get me wrong, they should absolutely be in on the biggest free agents out there. The payroll is almost nothing. The core is young and cheap. It’s one of those proverbial, “if they don’t do it now, they never will,” type of scenario. I’m leaning towards the “never will” coming to fruition and we’ll be left massively underwhelmed like we are every year.

    Jack Morris was a big name guy.

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    No chance we sign any of these guys. Never done it. Never will.

     

    Never is a big world.  In 1991 the Twins signed 7 free agents.  One of them (Morris) was the highest paid free agent of the class in 1991, and a second (Davis) among the top 5.

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    I can see them signing Wheeler from that list.  Corey Klubel will likely be a free agent.  He has an option for $17.5 M, which I don't see the Indians picking up.  They will give him a QO instead for the same amount.  The Twins should stay away from Pineda, Gibson and Odorizzi.  They can sign someone like Jhoulys Chacin and get similar production for less $.   They need 2 pitchers better than Berrios at this point.  They can pick one as a free agent and trade for another.

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    Never is a big world. In 1991 the Twins signed 7 free agents. One of them (Morris) was the highest paid free agent of the class in 1991, and a second (Davis) among the top 5.

    Strawberry signed a free agent contract that off season at a base of 5 years and 20.5 million.

     

    Jack had a guarantee of 3 years and 7 million. It was less than the guarantee from the Tigers. He had the incentives to earn 11 million over 3 but that was never going to happen. If he pitched poorly he would get the 7 million. If he pitched well he had an option out so he could go get the going rate for a top starter.

     

    The week he signed with the Twins, Clemens signed for over 5 million across 4 years with the Red Sox. Morris got his 5 million when he predicted out and signed with the Jays,

     

    The Twins did take advantage of the end of the collusion era to get Morris on a make good one year contract while minimizing their risk. I don’t think the financial burden in that signing compares in any way to the burden of signing the top free agent this winter.

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    Strawberry signed a free agent contract that off season at a base of 5 years and 20.5 million.

    Jack had a guarantee of 3 years and 7 million. It was less than the guarantee from the Tigers. He had the incentives to earn 11 million over 3 but that was never going to happen. If he pitched poorly he would get the 7 million. If he pitched well he had an option out so he could go get the going rate for a top starter.

    The week he signed with the Twins, Clemens signed for over 5 million across 4 years with the Red Sox. Morris got his 5 million when he predicted out and signed with the Jays,

    The Twins did take advantage of the end of the collusion era to get Morris on a make good one year contract while minimizing their risk. I don’t think the financial burden in that signing compares in any way to the burden of signing the top free agent this winter.

    No question the market has changed, and continues to change. Morris signed a fair deal at the time then took advantage of his out and had great success with Toronto. I can't begrudge him that.

     

    In fact, not long before the contacts you mentioned, the Twins actually signed Puckett to the richest contact in history, IIRC, only to be topped by Henderson shortly thereafter.

     

    Funny when you reflect on those "high dollar" moves made then vs the past 25yrs or so. Historically, put in to proper context, ownership hasn't always been as penny-pinching as some like to claim. Believed or not, Terry Ryan used to openly state the FO didn't inhibit him from making moves if they made sense. But he didn't make many. He brought a lot of talent, and a lot of winning teams in his tenure, but he didn't make a lot of defining moves. (And let me state I have tremendous respect for all Ryan accomplished and all be did). The FA market, when Ryan was in charge, still seemed steep in "mega contracts" in dollars and years, as well as including the DOME DAYS that may have influenced a lack of moves.

     

    Not sure I have answers, but reflection is interesting. The current FO, under the same ownership, has been quite different, albeit in Target Field, and with a change in analytics and a huge market change as a result. I think it really comes down to what makes sense. Sense in short term and long term. We have still seen HUGE contracts, but only for "blue chip" players.

     

    The current FO has delved in the FA market with poor success and positive success. I have little doubt they realize they need to add a SP somewhere/somehow. I also have little doubt they will look at all of these options, examine them thoroughly, and then decide if a 30yr old option can be counted on for sustained success for 2-3yrs. If they decide not, they will go the trade route from milb surpluses and bring someone in, with a couple years of control, that they think/believe is ready to contribute and perhaps "arrive" with a few tweaks.

     

    I also believe a couple of our current staff will be back. I just don't know for sure who at this point. Just too far out and too much speculation at this point.

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