Trade Deadline Tracker: Twins' News and Rumor Roundup

8 minutes ago, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

Possibly for someone named 'Cash'?

I hope he brings more than that.

Looks like Padres are still in play. Scherzer deal is in limbo as other teams are trying to top it.

Keep The B Boys and Kepler. Build around them with young talent and FAs. Consign 2021 to the ash heap. With FAs, avoid has beens. Let the young pitchers finish out the year. Give Happ and Shoemaker their check and send them home. Ditto Columbe. Figure out if Rogers is the closer or too unpredictable. 

Trade deadline day is easily my least favorite day of the year. It's always crappy teams giving away their stars to the same 5 or 6 teams (and "surprise" team) each year.

Look how easy it is for the Dodgers and Yankees to get whoever they want, yet 95% of the other teams refuse to do it.

We always take about the king's ransom we can get for our players but it never plays out like that. It's always just middling garbage who, if we're lucky, might be a decent player for a month or two.

10 hours ago, dex8425 said:

Mike, would you take Gore for Berrios, straight up? I doubt the Padres do it but I'd take that deal in a second. 

I am not sure - I need an up to date scouting report on Gore.    This quote from CBS - "Gore has been at the Padres' spring training facility in Arizona since mid-June while working on his delivery, Colin Deaver of KTSM.com reports.

Wow...1st and 2nd prospects (MLB ready) and two mid-range prospects.  I feel like Jose might have had a chance at Gray and a mid-range prospect.

Question in general on Chargois. While he's shown as being under team control for like 4 more years, the Dodgers released him in 2019 and that should have made him a free agent in full right there, shouldn't it have?

3 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Unfortunately not. The rules still allow the team that picks him up to retain his rights until he's reached his service time limit. Really feels like it shouldn't be that way, but that's how it goes. The Twins have pulled that trick a time or two to good benefit. Brandon Kintzler and Ehire Adrianza come to mind.

Yeah, that's utterly horrible. I'd be eliminating that in the next CBA hands down if I was the MLBPA.

https://www.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/free-agency#:~:text=Definition,the two parties can agree.

"Players become free agents upon reaching six years of Major League service time or when they are released from their organization prior to reaching six years of service time. A free agent is eligible to sign with any club for any terms to which the two parties can agree. If a player with fewer than six years of service time signs with a club, he remains under the control of that club until reaching the requisite service time to reach free agency -- even if the contract he signed does not cover the remaining years until that point."

48 minutes ago, ashbury said:

Kintzler was released and signed so many times, only the commissioner's office could tell you whether and how his service time played a role. Ehire was a waiver wire pickup for our Twins.

I don't feel bad if guys were picked up from the waiver wire. That means another team wanted to assume their control/obligations. I just really find it unacceptable to see a guy be under team control until he's 35.

2 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

MLB is in a a bad place when the LA Dodgers can add Max Scherzer and Trea Turner.

This is awful. Ridiculous  

Yeah. The place is other teams don't want to go for it. Too many teams are trying to be the Rays and they're no good at it.

2 minutes ago, Squirrel said:

If I were the other teams, I'd just pack it in and make no trades ... I mean ... why? Why expend resources when you are not likely to get past them? I said a while ago to someone that I had a feeling that Cruz would be the only one traded. It's looking like I may be right, but ugh, wish I weren't. Hope I'm not.

They're trailing the Giants in the division right now and the Padres have a heck of a roster right behind the Dodgers. It's all but certain the NL West will have the Wild Card team. Also, with Bauer unlikely to show back up at the teams facilities and Kershaw on the IL, the Dodgers rotation was getting very thin. Picking up Turner probably doesn't make them a whole lot better than how Chris Taylor has been playing at SS so far. The Dodgers have some weaknesses.

32 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

All of which misses the point. This is worse than the NBA.

 

It's not healthy for any league for 1 or 2 teams to always game the system and get whatever players they want. 

Well, I can't disagree that everybody is probably sick and tired of the Dodgers at this point, but they've honestly only replaced the Giants as the NL West juggernaut. The Dodgers television deal was insane and unfair for the rest of MLB. It grants them an enormous competitive advantage. Their farm system has declined quite a bit in recent years, though, and the Dodgers just gave up their top pitching prospect. Their window may be closing and they've already got roughtly $150MM potentially commited to next year with a lot of rotation questions.

Making the playoffs 9 years in a row is a problem for sure, but a lot of that stemmed from playing in a division with the Rockies, Padres and Diamondbacks coupled with a lot of NL teams sucking. All three of the weak division rivals were low budget and pretty awful most of the time.

Best team money can buy.........