A Hypothetical Twins Trade for Luis Castillo from The Athletic

Winder is not expendable  and I have liked what I have seen over some of the other rookie pitching prospects ...

His stuff plays well so far and only looks to get better if he stays healthy  ... I like his composure on the mound ... seems like a bulldog  ...

I mean, it would hurt, but the Twins would still be getting a deal here. I think the Twins would definitely do this. I doubt it's enough for the Reds. 

I like this deal and do it although I doubt that he'd resign with us and that the Reds would take it.

I'd make that trade in a heartbeat. Need someone to win in playoffs. Luis is filthy. 1 more year of control might also help persuade Correa to stay 1 more year.

1 hour ago, nicksaviking said:

I agree, I think Winder is going to be pretty important this year and beyond. I think dealing from the Kirilloff/Miranda/Winder/Ober group diminishes the gains you'd get from the trade.

i agree except I would be willing to deal Ober in a deal for a starting pitcher. To me, the other 3 would only go in a spectacular deal for us (not happening). 

At least it's ballpark (if Castillo is healthy). Though I'd look for a prospect position player to move instead of Winder, because the "pitching pipeline" has an air bubble in it (with very dubious Saints starting prospects not name Winder), and your Gray/Castillo 1 and 2 could be gone after next year.

Take the deal.

Some would argue that it may not be enough to beat the Yankees and Astros and we should not deal the future. I think there is value in winning the central and winning a playoff series against the wild card. I think an addition to the top of the rotation helps the Twins get there. 

11 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

Is Larnach more valuable than Steer? I'm not sure. Larnach's bat has a higher floor but Steer is way more versatile defensively.

I think it really depends where a team is in the competitive cycle. In the case of the Reds, I might lean Steer for the upside play further down the road over Larnach's immediate impact.

If you use defense as a parameter, then trade Miranda; I am not a big fan of Larnach but the way he was regularly hitting double before he was hurt, plus he can back-up Kepler in right, makes more sense than Miranda's Little League fielding skills.

Sano's numbers af first are a goodly number better than  Miranda.

4 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

Miranda has played fewer than 550 innings at first base in his professional career. Sano has triple that number of innings and was really bad at the position in the early going.

At no time were Sano's numbers at first as bad as Miranda's are now.

One would think that by signing Correa, Buxton and trading for Gray, this FO is serious about winning this year.  Of course, other actions,e.g., trading Rogers, not beefing up their pen in the offseason, belies this notion so who really knows what their grand plan is.  But since it is so illogical with a first place team and a huge addition like Correa  that even the Wonder Boys are not at least somewhat interested in making an added push for the playoffs by Aug. 2nd, then yes, the Twins should make this trade for Castillo - a badly needed top-of-the-rotation arm to augment a suddenly flailing rotation.  Steer is certainly expendable, given our surplus MI talent,  although I wouldn't mind switching Martin if the Reds insisted.  SWR is exactly the kind of prospect who a rebuilding team would want and while Winder has been a pleasant surprise, he might very well settle into a back-of-the-rotation arm.  I would be fine with substituting Ober for Winder and perhaps add a lower level pitching prospect if needed to seal the deal.

Any FO worth their salt would pull the trigger on a reasonable trade like this, again assuming they wanted to send the message to fans and players alike that they believe in this 2022 team.  If not, they should pack their bags and find another sucker like JP.  And good luck with that!!!