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  1. Great talent. I think the bat is so good that they will find a place for him sometime this summer or next year. I sometimes think that moving guys around the diamond in situations like this may not be the answer. It may work for players who are blessed with great athletic skills--like Lewis--but I question if it helps players who are not quite so naturally gifted athletically. Maybe it would be better to give him a primary position and work his tail off at that position to make him better ala Corey Koskie. Part of improving defensive play is giving a player enough reps at a position to generate some confidence, and give him a "feel" for the position. In any event, the bat will carry him one way or the other.
    11 points
  2. Betting is exactly the right word. And ultimately, the FO it betting on themselves, and their talent evaluation skills. Like you, I hope they win this overall bet; losing would be costly.
    11 points
  3. RJA beat me to it. Your doing a guy like this a disservice to play him 40 games at 2nd, 40 at short, 40 at 3rd, and 40 in LF. Give him ONE position and let him hone his skills.
    9 points
  4. At the time, it made perfect sense. Even Auburn couldn’t figure out exactly where to play Edouard Julien on the field. As a freshman, he started 59 games between designated hitter, first base, and second base. As a sophomore, he started 62 games at third base. There was no question about his bat, though. That belonged in the lineup. His final game as a Tiger saw these worlds collide. Against Mississippi State in the College World Series, Julien hit a massive two-run home run in the top of the second inning to give the Tigers a 2-0 lead. It was a 429-foot blast to right field that, at the time, was tied for the longest in the history of TD Ameritrade Park. He later singled in another run to push the lead to 3-0. In the bottom of the final frame, the Tigers gave up two run, but still had the lead. One out away. Tying run 90 feet from home. And a routine ground ball to third base. Three batters later, Mississippi State was celebrating their walk-off victory. No one would have blamed Julien for going back to Auburn to try to help his team back to Omaha. But money - nearly a half million dollars - talks and the Twins now have one of the best guys at getting on base in all the minor leagues. Age: 23 (DOB: 4/30/1999)2022 Stats: (AA): 508 PA, .300/.441/.490, 17 HR, 67 RBI, 19 SB, 98 BB, 125K. (AFL) 96 PA, .400/.563/.686, 5 HR, 17 RBI, 6 SB, 23 BB, 22K.ETA: 20232022 Ranking: 19National Top 100 RankingsBA: NR | MLB: NR | ATH: NR | BP: NR What's To Like The bat. The eye. The legs. Julien's entire offensive arsenal is loaded. In an offseason that saw the Twins offload Luis Arraez, the organization has a ready-made replacement. Julien has been able to get on base in almost 44% of his minor-league plate appearances. You could make a pretty good argument that no one is better suited to bat lead-off. He's stolen 53 bases over the last two seasons. He has slugged nearly .500, you could argue that his bat belongs right in the middle of the lineup. You could literally make any argument you wanted about getting Julien in the lineup because he is prolific with the bat in his hands and a lineup with him in it is better than one without. What's Left to Work OnIf you're talking about someone with an elite offensive package and he's only #5 on the team's prospect rankings, you've either got the best system in baseball (it's not that) or there is something significant that sticks out that needs to be talked about here. The Twins - like Auburn - have used Julien all over defensively. He's started double-digit games in his career at first base, second base, third base, and left field. And as you slide down the defensive totem pole as Julien has (and Arraez did), it makes the presence of elite offensive skills even more important. Because the last stop is as a designated hitter. Ideally, Julien either finds a comfortable home (second base? left field?), but the most likely scenario involves him being used all over the infield and in left field. There's a lot of work to do here yet, but the reality remains that Julien is a low-ceiling defender. What's Next After a successful full-season run at Wichita followed by an outstanding fall in Arizona, Julien will almost assuredly start his season in St. Paul. From there, what happens in 2023 is going to be dependent on a handful of things. Assuming the bat doesn't regress, Julien will get ample opportunities to hone his defensive skills in the infield and, likely, in the outfield. But the performance and health of those above him will be the biggest factor. Before all that, though, Julien will compete for Team Canada in the WBC. Julien figures to get plenty of plate appearances and will likely find himself playing second base. Will he use this opportunity as a springboard for his upcoming season? Luis Arraez got an opportunity and ran with it all the way to a batting title. Maybe that's all Julien needs too... and the defensive side will sort itself out in time. Previous InstallmentsHonorable Mention Prospects 21-30 Prospects 16-20 Prospects 11-15 Prospect #10: Austin Martin, SS Prospect #9: Louie Varland, RHP Prospect #8: Jose Salas, INF Prospect #7: Connor Prielipp, LHP Prospect #6: Simeon Woods Richardson, RHP Prospect #5: Edouard Julien, 2B
    9 points
  5. It is all about the bat for Jullien. Defense is never going to be plus it doesn't look like. He is an interesting bat and I can't say I have seen a player quite like him before. He walks (20%) Almost as much and he K's (25%). He hits for Average (.300) with incredibly high and usually unsustainably high BABIP's (.393) and yet he slugs around .490. It is an unconventional approach if you ask me and yet level after level he appears to be sustaining it. I have my doubts he can continue to be "that" good but it certainly seems like his eye at the plate is going to lift all stats so to speak. He has been incrediably consistent with his offensive approach so far and it will be interesting to see how it plays out at AAA and likley MLB. I hope he can keep this up and become an elite bat for the Twins but these last two levels are tough. Hopefully his approach wins out.
    8 points
  6. If they somehow use Pagan in anything other than mop up roles, in blow out games...then something is really wrong with whatever the master plan is.
    8 points
  7. I'd love to see Julien tear up the WBC, and spring training, and make it really hard to send him to St Paul instead of KC to start the year. If Kirilloff is needing a little more time to get everything together after his wrist surgery there's an opening at 1B that Julien should be gunning for. His potential OBP in the 9 hole to start the year could be wonderful in front of the 3 big hitters I think most of us expect to be in the 1-3 spots in some order. I know he's stolen a bunch of bases, but, from what I've read on scouting reports, he's not actually all that fast. I prefer speed in the OF, but it sounds like he's simply not an infielder (outside 1B maybe). I know we have a ton of LH cOFers already, but it sounds like he simply doesn't have the hands and footwork to play 2B (or 3B). There's also only so much you can realistically expect someone to improve. From the sounds of it Julien may just be 1 of those guys. Another LH cOF/1B/DH is not ideal for this team, but wasting more time with Julien at positions he simply can't play isn't ideal either. With Gallo and Kepler gone within the next year I think there's room to carry a bunch of the lefties we have. Especially since a few of them don't currently have dramatic splits when facing LHPs. If he can maintain a .400 OBP in the bigs he's worth keeping next to Kirilloff (if he can hit like he has when healthy) and Larnach (if he can hit like he has when healthy).
    7 points
  8. Counterpoint - he's probably never going to be able to win a spot at 2B, 3B or LF as an everyday player but moving him around lets you get his bat in the lineup.
    7 points
  9. It seems like it has been a while that the Twins have headed into ST with so few questions about their roster. Barring injuries or health concerns, there really is very little wiggle room on the roster.
    6 points
  10. Many Twins players have already reported to Fort Myers in eager anticipation of the 2023 season. Spring training is even more important for some players this season because they are battling for a roster spot. Minnesota has added depth at multiple positions, which means other players are pushed down the depth chart. For many of the battles, health is the most significant factor, so who will win these battles in the coming weeks? Starting Rotation Battle There are many questions about the Twins' rotation. Is Tyler Mahle healthy? No one knows how his shoulder will hold up as he ramps up for the season. How will Kenta Maeda return from Tommy John surgery? Maeda had a chance to return last season, but the Twins fell out of contention and didn't rush him back. Would the team consider a six-man rotation to keep players healthy? Bailey Ober is the odd man out in the rotation if everyone is healthy at the conclusion of spring training. Ober is the next man up from Triple-A if there is an injury. Potentially, the Twins could push a starter into a bullpen role to keep the player on the Opening Day roster. There is also a stable of young pitchers waiting in the wings, including Louie Varland and Simeon Woods Richardson. There is depth there, but there are no guarantees everyone will be healthy on Opening Day. Bench Battle Many of the team's bench spots are already locked in, but the team can still go in a different direction. The Twins presumed bench is Ryan Jeffers, Kyle Farmer, Michael A. Taylor , and Nick Gordon. Staying healthy will be vital to keeping the team's bench depth. Gordon currently occupies the last-position player spot on the roster, but he is out of minor-league options, so he likely makes the team. Alex Kirilloff is returning from surgery, but there is no guarantee he will be ready for Opening Day. When spring training starts, the Twins can move Royce Lewis and Chris Paddack to the 60-day IL and open new 40-man roster spots. This could allow a veteran player to be added as a third catcher, or there will likely be a need for Kyle Garlick to be a bench bat in 2023. Gilberto Celestino has been part of the Twins roster over the last two seasons, but he's likely headed to Triple-A. Bullpen Battle Many of the roster decisions above aren't as complicated if everyone is healthy at the start of the season. The bullpen is another story, with eight spots to fill and multiple decisions on the table. Five bullpen spots are locked in with Jhoan Duran, Jorge Lopez, Griffin Jax, Caleb Thielbar, and Emilio Pagan. In Twins Daily's roster projections, the final three bullpen spots are currently occupied by Jorge Alcala, Jovani Moran, and Trevor Megill. All three of these players have minor league options remaining, which helps the team have some roster flexibility. Alcala was limited to just two appearances in 2022 due to an elbow issue that eventually required surgery, so there is no guarantee he is at full strength. Moran and Megil pitched at Triple-A last year and are candidates to take the train back and forth from St. Paul in 2023. Other bullpen options could emerge this spring, especially from other 40-man roster options like Ronny Henriquez, Cole Sands, and Josh Winder. The Twins used 38 different pitchers last season, so all of these players will be needed at some point in the coming season. Who will emerge from those roster battles? Which relievers will get the final spots in the bullpen? Leave a COMMENT and start the discussion.
    6 points
  11. It sure would be nice if he could be "solid" at a position other than 1st base (or DH.) The Twins (and most teams) have many players who can fill these two positions adequately. Combining his bat with a different 'skill' position..... is where championship teams are made!
    6 points
  12. When is any front office not betting on a bullpen? I don't see many bullpens where I think "wow, they're set for the year because nothing can possibly go wrong". I don't know that having Fulmer would have made me all that happy- he wouldn't make up for a Duran/JLopez problem. Maybe a lack of improvement by Pagan. And will he be better than last year or worse? A new pitcher would change the odds a bit, but it's always a bet.
    6 points
  13. MLB bullpens are the easiest piece to remake during the season. Individual performances vary quite a bit year to year. No need to put together a perfect bullpen for the beginning of the year. If your team is in it in July, then you go out and add.
    6 points
  14. Yeah it’s nuts that people not only under-appreciate Mauer, but almost openly detest him. He’s one of the best and most complete catchers the game has ever seen. Period. At his peak of winning batting titles, hitting doubles like a machine, and playing gold glove caliber defense - name more than one or two in history that was better at the position. The longevity wasn’t necessarily there at the position that some like Bench and Rodriguez have. But, it’s not the hall of longevity. That criteria is sometimes weighted too heavily, IMO. Especially at the catcher position. The contract talk is just absurd. He gets knocked because he was paid for was they thought he would do and he didn’t do it? What? He also got paid peanuts while being the best catcher in the game for 5-6 years. That somehow gets twisted into him fleecing the Twins in some way and being a detriment? Get the hell out of here (figuratively). That’s just ridiculous. Not only that, but he’s a hometown kid. He played out his career here. He lives and invests in the community. And he was a key cog in the longest consecutive run of success this dumpster fire of an organization has ever seen. If they select Mark Prior instead of Mauer, things look much worse for this franchise over the last 22 years. Also, a total class act. People worship at the idols of guys like Puckett who are complete scumbags. There’s something to be said about performing off the field as well. His one knock IMO is not winning enough in the postseason. But, who knows what happens there if Phil Cuzzy didn’t openly rig a playoff game for the Yankees and call a double fair by 30 feet a foul ball.
    6 points
  15. Relievers are the kickers of MLB. When they step on the field they have one, short term duty. While the other players are evaluated based on work over multiple innings and could grade out from anywhere between an A and an F, it's pretty much always a pass/fail situation for a reliever. And these pitchers are in this position because for one reason or another, they aren't good enough to be starters. It's a finger crossing scenario by default. Bottom line, I feel just as comfortable with a reliever holding a lead as I feel comfortable with a kicker aiming for a game winning field goal. Which is not at all. And it doesn't matter who the kicker or relief pitcher are, the voice in my head always says they're going to choke.
    5 points
  16. Derek Falvey rustled some feathers the other day when, in an article written by Phil Miller of the Star Tribune, the exec said, "[i]f we were to do anything at this point, it would likely be to add depth in the middle [innings]. We'll keep an open mind, but [relief pitching is] not a priority." It’s a shockingly straightforward answer not saturated with Falvey’s typical lawyer-ish flourishes. Falvey and Miller covered the gambit in reliever talk in that article; I recommend people read the entire piece before outraging (that will never happen). Initially, it’s tough to accept Falvey’s evaluation. I watched the same 2022 Twins team he did, and that squad specialized in blowing games in the late innings. They often failed to hold leads in games that really should have won. Cleveland proved to be a special problem, as Minnesota handed out late wins like Costco free samples as Tyler Thornburg and his ilk tried their darndest to not be a part of the problem. It didn't work, and they finished with the seventh-most meltdowns, a quick-and-dirty Fangraphs stat that uses win probability to determine poor reliever performance. But you don’t need to hear it from a number: that bullpen stunk. Perhaps we’re looking at the issue too broadly, though. Yes, the relief corps was terrible in the first half of the season—Fangraphs pegged them as the 2nd worst in MLB—but they didn’t remain static. Michael Fulmer and Jorge López joined the squad. Caleb Thielber emerged as a tremendous, reliable arm. People with eyes determined that Emilio Pagán should probably not pitch late in games. Evolution took its course. Quietly, so silent that no one cared to notice, the Twins bullpen improved drastically in the second half. Sure, they couldn’t fall further than before, but their bullpen now ranked 4th in MLB in FIP, only sitting behind the blue-blood organizations who consistently dominate the pitching charts. Part of that may be the inherent randomness in reliever performance, but tangible changes appeared to afflict the Twins for the better. Take it from Falvey: "I feel like we saw a lot of progress as last season went on, and within a group that still can make even more progress as they gain experience." Bullpens aren’t made of numbers. People pitch those innings, at least for now. Minnesota’s group includes four arms dancing around one year of MLB service time with another, Jorge Alcalá, who is about as green as the others. Is it unreasonable to believe that Jovani Moran succeeds in an expanded role, Griffin Jax finds another gear, or Trevor Megill fully realizes his strikeout potential? Jhoan Duran will continue melting faces in the near future. The teams main worry will be the complimenting pieces always at risk for the bullpen randomness bug; there's nothing that signing Corey Knebel would do to alleviate that. The issue with the Twins bullpen is perhaps one of perception: because they seemingly blew an incalculable number of games in 2022, they appear incompetent, doomed to blow games again. But that may not be fair. As this author noted in July, relievers are an odd group, one whose jobs rely on the starting pitcher's effectiveness; it could be an all-hand-on-deck night, or Rocco Baldelli may only need the services of two arms the do the job. Given Minnesota’s dreadfully short starting pitching, the bullpen felt an extreme strain. Much of those games were technically the fault of the relief corps, but part of the battle is placing those arms in a position to succeed; Minnesota lost that fight consistently in 2022. And they likely won’t have to carry that weight in 2023. With plenty of wood knocking, the 2023 Twins rotation appears a more trustworthy bunch than their previous counterparts. Swapping Dylan Bundy and Chris Archer for Kenta Maeda and Pablo López gives them a deep rotation. No arm sticks out as truly dominant, but their reliability should feed into the bullpen, removing pressure and allowing its hierarchy to remain intact. The days of Jharel Cotton saving games are over. It is risky. Fewer outcomes in baseball are less aesthetically pleasing than a late blown lead; the win should have been in hand, after all. If López doesn’t regain his Orioles form, Alcalá fails to show the improvement he flashed in 2021, or if any of the breakout 2022 arms regress, it could be a tough summer to bear.
    5 points
  17. Wallner would be the other player who could push in, but less likely given he is also a left-handed corner outfielder. The acquisition of Taylor keeps both Celestino and Garlick off of a healthy roster, IMO
    5 points
  18. If you compare Julien's numbers at AA with Arraez, there really is no comparison - Julien's power and speed are far more impactful. Yes, he's older than Arraez was at AA, but if he hits anywhere near that at AAA, the Twins will find a place for him, and a DH who hits for average, power, and can steal bases is far better than anybody else they will trot out there.
    5 points
  19. The impact of the bullpen on a team's fate can often be overstated by fans, which is understandable. Not to get into specifics, but ... a certain reliever melting down several times in close games against a division rival lingers in memory more starkly than, say, the offense that couldn't build a sufficient lead, or the starter who couldn't go deep enough to prevent that scenario. Many fans will tell you the bullpen was the primary downfall of the 2022 Twins. Is that true? Not really. Their bullpen ranked 20th among MLB teams in fWAR, 16th in ERA, 14th in FIP, compared to a rotation that ranked 21st, 20th, and 18th respectively. The offense, which was supposed to be the engine driving a competitive team, ranked 17th in the majors in runs scored. Notably, the Twins bullpen ranked 29th in fWAR in the first half last year, but improved to FOURTH in the second half, once they'd parted ways with the likes of Tyler Duffey and Joe Smith. They weren't just improved in the latter portion of the campaign, after ironing out an uninspiring opening group – they were elite. All of which is to say they're not working from as lousy of an existing base as many seem to perceive or assume. The front office's decision to bypass any significant offseason RP additions – which now seems all but affirmed, with Michael Fulmer and Andrew Chafin both coming off the market in the past few days – is justifiable on merit. That said, failing to properly build a deep and resilient bullpen can be a costly misstep that fans won't be eager to forgive. Even if it's sometimes exaggerated, there's no question that the bullpen plays a vital role in any team's success, and is often a key differentiator between the good and the great. Is this group up to snuff? The team is placing it's chips on a series of outcomes shaking out mostly the right way, in order to fulfill the vision of a bullpen suited to a World Series contender: The Twins are betting on Jhoan Durán holding up. He's one of the best relievers in baseball, so Durán would serve as a linchpin in almost any bullpen makeup. But the Twins are set to once again lean hard on him for the late innings, because there is so much uncertainty surrounding him (as we'll discuss). The big right-hander was remarkably healthy and durable last year, but he was limited to 16 total innings in 2021 by an elbow strain. He throws about as hard as any pitcher in history, so the injury concerns are self-evident and unignorable. The Twins can't do much about that other than manage and protect his arm to their best ability, but if they wanted some peace of mind, they might've shelled out or traded for a big-name reliever to serve as co-ace of the bullpen. The Rafael Montero to their Ryan Pressly, if you will. Alas, it's possible – maybe even probable – that the front office feels it already accomplished this at the deadline last year: The Twins are betting on Jorge López getting back on track. If López and Durán are both pitching at a level approximating their work in the first half last year, they provide Minnesota with one of the most dominant 1-2 punches at the back end of any bullpen. This no doubt played a major role in the front office's strategy during a 2022 deadline that seemed as much oriented toward strengthening the '23 club as boosting their chances for the stretch run. The plan can still work, and the Twins are counting on it. López's results dropped off big-time after the trade last year, but it was only 23 innings and the stuff was still there. If his drop-off didn't coincide directly with switching teams, it probably would've been less noticeable, and we'd have been more inclined to judge his overall body of work – 71 IP, 2.54 ERA, 3.42 FIP, 4 HR allowed – as a tremendously encouraging first go as a full-time reliever. Merely replicating that overall level of performance for the full season would make López a worthy setup man or closer. But if getting comfortable while making adjustments brings him back closer to the level of his All-Star first half, the Twins have two powerhouses lurking at the back of the bullpen. They'll be the envy of almost every team in the league. The Twins are betting on Emilio Pagán proving doubters wrong. The doubters are many, and they have ample evidence to support their stance. Pagán authored from the mound some of this team's lowest moments in 2022. His propensity for hanging meatballs that got launched 450 feet at dire moments was legendary ... and it's a rep that's now been following him around for a while. And yet. The Twins believe in the quality of his stuff and they are not alone. Perhaps they feel it started to shine through in the second half and down the stretch, with help from a new breaking ball swapped in for the cutter. After posting a 5.23 ERA in the first half, Pagán lowered that figure to 3.56 in the second half – including 2.16 ERA in his final 16 ⅔ innings, during which he held opponents to a .170/.279/.288 with only one home run allowed. The overpowering arsenal is undeniable, and in the latter stage of the season – under tutelage from a rearranged coaching staff featuring Pete Maki and Colby Suggs – Pagán finally started to unlock it. Or so the Twins are betting. The Twins are betting on unproven middle relief options coming through. Griffin Jax looked very good last year in his transition to relief, but posted a 6.37 ERA the prior season as a rookie. Caleb Thielbar was phenomenal following a rocky start, but he's 36 and was out of pro baseball a few years ago. Jorge Alcalá undoubtedly has the stuff to dominate righties, but missed nearly all of last season with an elbow injury. Add in the likes of Trevor Megill and Jovani Moran, and you've got a great deal of high-end potential within the middle tier of his bullpen mix – including some very viable setup candidates – but also substantial question marks relating to age, injury, track record, or otherwise. The argument for adding another veteran reliever is that you can mitigate some of this uncertainty with more of a proven commodity. The argument against it is that you might be limiting well-earned opportunities for some of the guys lower on the list. Moran for example posted a 2.21 ERA while averaging 12.0 K/9 and allowing zero homers in 41 innings for the Twins last year, and he's about to turn 26. Does he really deserve to be buried back in Triple-A with another vet of questionable superiority stacked above him on the depth chart? The Twins are betting on manufacturing relief arms over the course of the season. Even if the Twins are mostly right about the pitchers mentioned above, they'll need to rely on an influx of talent throughout the course of the season, because that's always the case. The underlying premise seems to be one guiding this front office philosophically from a bullpen standpoint: we can find them. Maybe that means extracting good performances out of minor-league signings and waiver claims, such as Danny Coulombe and Oliver Ortega. They've been okay at that, on the fringes. But really, it comes down to identifying pitchers from a wide-ranging pool of flawed starters who can elevate into true relief weapons. We saw this last year with Durán and Jax, and I suspect the Twins feel they're only scratching the surface. Keep a close eye on names like Josh Winder, Ronny Henriquez, Jordan Balazovic, Blayne Enlow, and Brent Headrick as candidates to shift to relief and make a major big-league impact. This philosophy that basically boils down to, "Capable relievers are everywhere, but volatile, why pay a premium?" is not exactly unique to the Twins, but it's one they're embracing with all their might. And it might ultimately play a huge role in defining their success this season. Let's hope they're right on that bet, and the others inherent to a status quo offseason for the Minnesota bullpen.
    5 points
  20. But it just might be a lunatic we’re looking for.
    4 points
  21. The shootout rule will forever be the dumbest rule in all of sports because it’s not derived from anything natural about the game. It’s just a gimmick and I’d rather have games end in a tie after OT. I agree with you why the ghost runner rule is just as dumb. You don’t need to generate a hit to get the runner home from 2nd. 2 sacrifice flies will do it. A passed ball and a sac fly. If they insist on doing this to eliminate long baseball games, have the ghost runner start on 1B, or start this ridiculous rule after 12 traditional baseball innings.
    4 points
  22. Born in Northfield, Minnesota, Caleb Thielbar calls the same state home as Thielen does. When Thielbar went to South Dakota State, the Jackrabbits were a Division II program. They transitioned to Division I during his final two seasons there. Playing in Brookings, it’s not at all surprising that the lefty went relatively overlooked, but by this point in his Major League career, the story should be equally inspiring. Both Thielen and Thielbar beat the odds when considering how small their towns are. Detroit Lakes does boast a population of nearly 10,000 people, while Thielbar's Randolph claims less than 500. Thielen didn't pick up a football scholarship offer from Mankato until the summer following his senior year, and it took Thielbar multiple stints with the independent version of the Saints before he was discovered again. The Milwaukee Brewers took Thielbar in the 18th round of the 2009 Major League Baseball draft. The only player drafted in that round that year to make a positive impact in the majors is Marcus Stroman, although he didn't sign, went to college at Duke and was drafted in the first round three years later as a pitcher rather than a shortstop. Given the rounds and depth brought in through the draft, Thielbar’s positioning did not at all help his chances for success. It wasn’t until 2011 that Thielbar made his way to the Twins organization, and he didn’t make it to the big leagues for another two years after that. As a 26-year-old reliever, the lefty appeared on May 20 against the Atlanta Braves and threw two shutout innings with a trio of strikeouts. Thielbar posted a 1.76 ERA that season, but the Twins were so bad that his performance was largely overlooked. A year later, in 2014, the strikeouts slipped and so did the overall performance. By 2015, Thielbar was out of affiliated baseball altogether. Using two strong stints with the St. Paul Saints, Thielbar provided the Twins with opportunity to scout him close to home. Boasting sub 3.00 ERA's in 2016 and 2017, he parlayed the success into minor league deals with the Detroit Tigers and Atlanta Braves in 2018 and 2019. Resurfacing during the 2020 covid-shortened season with Minnesota, Thielbar is showcased in a wonderful piece by The Athletic’s Dan Hayes. Having all but given up hope on professional baseball after Atlanta did not call him up in 2019, Thielbar decided to move on to coaching in the Division II ranks with Augustana. Conveniently for this narrative, the South Dakota school is nicknamed the Vikings, and they play in the same conference as Thielen’s Mavericks. Fortunately for the Twins, Brad Steil and the team's pro scouts saw his numbers and improved "stuff" and convinced Thielbar to give it one more try. Despite having been away from the game for a time, Thielbar posted a 2.25 ERA across 20 innings on a team that hosted a home playoff series. He was still a crafty lefty, but now he brought a new strikeout sprinkle to his game and tallied a career best 9.9 K/9. Fast forward to where we are now, and Thielbar enters 2023 with a career-high $2.4 million salary, and being able to lay claim as one of baseball’s most underrated relievers. For Rocco Baldelli, Thielbar will be one of just two assumed lefties in the pen. Alongside second-year arm Jovani Moran, Thielbar can be expected to provide plenty of high-leverage innings. His 2.42 FIP tells a better story of his 2022 than the 3.49 ERA, and it’s really the career best 12.1 K/9 that deserves excitement. Having dropped his walk rate each of the past two years, and continuing to be stingy with homers, Thielbar is as good of a weapon as Minnesota has in the pen. Although Major League Baseball rules now mandate a pitcher must face three batters, and Thielbar is better against lefties, he is relatively matchup proof. Last season he held right-handed hitters to a .226 average as opposed to .225 for lefties. Righties did get him for a .634 OPS as opposed to just .575 against lefties, but he doesn’t strike fear in a manager when needing to get big outs. For a bullpen that has a fireballer like Jhoan Duran at the back, it’s incredible that someone like Thielbar can bring such a successful different look. Thielbar will never throw triple-digits, and his 92.9 mph average last season was a career-best. Still, generating soft contact along with swings and misses is something he’s done by knowing exactly what he brings to the table. Among Minnesota’s arbitration decisions this winter, Thielbar had to be one of the easiest. He’s now a 36-year-old, and it’s been a decade since he debuted. The journey to get here was an interesting one, but he’s now a key cog for the Twins bullpen in 2023. It’s improbable we see Thielbar named to an All-Star team or given national recognition, but make no mistake, Thielbar is every bit the success story that the Vikings have experienced with Adam Thielen. Sometimes the hometown hero is Joe Mauer, Paul Molitor, or Dave Winfield. Other times, it’s the grinder that has to do everything it takes in order to make their own opportunities.
    4 points
  23. If Martin hits, he's your LF (with great speed), IMO. I would start Martin in AAA and let him do his thing with a healthy wrist this year. I agree with the rest of your alignment though.
    4 points
  24. Yep. I really dislike that rule. 2nd worst rule in the 4 major sports. Nothing will ever top the shootout to break ties in hockey.
    4 points
  25. I think Julien will have a similar year to Luis Arraez in 2019, a very good rookie called up mid-season that pushes out one of the veterans on the roster. After this year, it looks like Julien will take the same role as Jose Miranda this year, push out a veteran and hold down a position for a couple months until a super-prospect gets called up, in Miranda’s case it’s Royce Lewis, for Julien it will likely be Brooks Lee. I really hope this team doesn’t sell off any infield prospects soon because having an infield of (Right to left) Kirilloff, Lee, Lewis and Correa with Miranda and Julien as backups/DH options would be fantastic
    4 points
  26. Schwarber actually had lower K rates than Julien through most of his minors career, including in AA. He also moved very quickly to the majors at a younger age. I think Cavan Biggio is the closest player comp I've found. Similar build, pretty much the same age to league at most levels, very patient in the minors with ok contact ability and some power. I think Biggio's 2019 statline is probably a good outcome to look for. Biggio's power seemed to be more fringy, as he's lost it since they changed the ball. I do think Julien's raw power is more legit as he really hits the ball far sometimes, even if his in-game power in the minors looks fairly similar to what Biggo did. So I do think Julien can maintain around 20+ HR power in the majors.
    4 points
  27. EXACTLY THIS. At some point, we need to trust the talent evaluators and hope/believe they have done a good job in putting this together. One or two injuries to the wrong people derails the entire plan, but again, it’s the same for every team. Plus, it really is possible to build the bullpen on the fly at least to a certain extent. As to the naysayers about “this mediocre starting pitching staff” or “this disastrous starting rotation”, WHEN exactly have you as a Twins fan EVER seen a better starting rotation for the season on a MN Twins team? I only go back to the mid-seventies so if you hit me with Camilo Pasquale, Mudcat Grant, Jim Perry, et al, perhaps you may have a point, but since then. . . I don’t think so.
    4 points
  28. When I was a young Twins fan I asked the same about Harmon Killebrew. Bad outfielder, bad 3B, OK 1B. Why not catcher. Then it was explained to me that catcher was the most challenging defensive position on the field which also wore the individual down and diminished their offensive skills. Glad Harmon didn’t listen.
    4 points
  29. I cannot think of a single team that does not build their pen similarly. I mean even the teams that try to go out and spend big on top pen arms normally regret that and build bigger from tweaks on guys they picked up for less, or moving starters to pen. I bet if you go back and look at the top relief contracts of all time, only a couple held up. Also, teams are betting on their top guys staying healthy. When trades need to be made they are, but no team goes into a season trying to have 7 closers in their pen paying them all 10 mil plus.
    4 points
  30. Also Maeda as an experienced option if by some miracle all the starter options stay healthy. The overall pitching depth is much better than last year and that has to flow to the bullpen somehow. I don't know that they are betting on this any differently than they are betting on any other position group. Its a plan and as plans go I'm OK with it-first fire inbound. Well, OK except for the Pagan part, unless they see him as a low leverage rubber arm I'll be nervous.
    4 points
  31. I think the rotation actually makes the bullpen stronger in two ways. One you covered (more starter innings means fewer 'pen innings meaning fresher arms). The other is that really good arms that were filling starting last year are potential bullpen material. Winder and Ober are actually good, and if they aren't starting, they probably can be better than Griffen Jax was last year (and that was pretty great when he wasn't over-used).
    3 points
  32. It was released this morning: https://www.mlb.com/press-release/press-release-bally-sports-north-audacy-s-news-talk-830-wcco-and-102-9-the-wolf-
    3 points
  33. To Matt's opening position of, "He may be right; I may be crazy." I reply: You just may be a lunatic I'm looking forTurn out the lightDon't try to save meYou may be wrong for all I knowBut you may be right Apologies to Billy Joel.
    3 points
  34. I think 'we must' is maybe a little strong here. If he's pitching well and the Twins are anywhere near contention, they would be off their rocker to shop him. I think you see how the first few months go, and if he's pitching well you try to extend him mid-season. If not, offer him the QO at the end of the year or try to sign him as a FA. Steer and CES were both nice players and quality prospects, but neither really had a locked in future here since they're both questionable on the defensive spectrum. Personally I like the prospect we got back in Arraez trade more than either of those two, but I'm sure others would probably disagree.
    3 points
  35. I'd argue that Mahle has the highest 2023 ceiling of the Twins starting rotation. But he also may have the lowest floor - given the injury risk.
    3 points
  36. Very nice piece. It takes an incredible amount of heart to keep at it when you're not given a chance to succeed.
    3 points
  37. I'd put him at first/ dh / 2nd and let it go at that. If Kiriloff is hurt, I'd like him at first / dh THIS year. Why not? Let's see what happens (maybe a month or so at AAA). His bat is good enough, I think, that I'd rather see him hitting than a few regulars already on the team.
    3 points
  38. I forget who was in first place in the division for like 3 months of the season last year? Detroit? No, that was the Twins! This wasn't a bad team last year until everyone got hurt. When you're starting your 10th choice in the OF in September, then there's a problem, but it's not that the team as a whole was bad. (I mean in a critical september series we had to run out cave, celestino, and contreras as the starting OF with Billy hamilton, Jermaine palacios, and Sandy Leon as the bench options. but that was because injuries wiped out everyone) The twins have not spent on the bullpen because they have rightly seen that the variance in performance often doesn't get you anything when you drop $3-6M AAV on a guy, and you're often better off finding internal options and sorting through cheaper guys that you can churn if they show they don't have it any longer. That's been the Tampa model: get 3-5 core pieces in your 'pen, and then fill it in more on the fly as you need to, without giving starter money to fungible relievers. Would I have preferred they go sign a guy and replace Pagan? Sure, because I'm worried about sunk cost fallacy and fan PTSD with Pagan and there looked to be guys that were RH options for $3-5M that could have bene trustworthy hands. but overall the bullpen looks pretty good, with some high upside guys in there and few who we're hoping will have a bounce back year. Thielbar has been very good for 3 years; it's a little silly to question him based on him being out of baseball years ago. Jax had a very successful year as a reliever, there's little reason to think he can't be successful this season. Duran was amazing, and relief seems to be the best way to keep his elbow healthy, not a reason to be more concerned. Moran has control issues, but has an awesome changeup and isn't slated to be a high-leverage guy. Alcala was quality before injury. Lopez might be the biggest question mark (outside of PTSD Pagan), but showed the talent to be an all-star. There are questions about the bullpen, but you can probably make the same or equally valid questions about every bullpen in baseball. take the ChiSox: their elite closer is going to miss significant time (if not the whole season) because of cancer treatments, their next best reliever (reynaldo lopez) last season just became a full-time reliever in 2022. Their most used reliever last season has had his WPA decline for 3 seasons in a row, and their 2nd most used reliever from last year has had a negative WPA 4 years in a row. neither of these guys (Graveman & Ruiz) have particularly strong peripherals (WHIP of 1.4? That was Tyler Duffey last season and we cut him). Twins bullpen looks pretty solid.
    3 points
  39. I agree with your starting rotation battle Cody. I also agree that baring any last minute trades or pick ups for a RH bat, they have to have Garlic on the bench to address the need against LH pitching. As for the BP battle, having the options available does provide flexibility for STP-MLPS shifting. I still would like them to bring in one more RP as we could be exposed while waiting for one of the starting prospects to be competent in the BP role.
    3 points
  40. The corners is what has to be decided. Kepler, Larnach and Kirilloff for corner outfield/1b. Gallo would be a given.
    3 points
  41. He's a really interesting player. His best position is "hitter", but you can almost always find room on the roster for someone who has those kind of skills at the plate, assuming he continues to hit like this. The eye at the plate is interesting, because you would normally expect that ability to generate walks to slide back a little as he advanced in level once he started facing pitchers with better control, but that's never happened to him. the one hiccup he had was in the half-season at high A where he wasn't getting hits, and that's probably where some evaluators are seeing some concern: if he doesn't get the hits and punish the ball when he does swing at it, then how much upside does he have when he's facing guys who aren't giving away ABs because they can't find the zone? but with Julien, the slugging has always been there; the .456 SLG in low A probably has more to do with it being the FSL than any flaw in his approach, especially since he was chasing .500 again when he moved up to cedar rapids. He mashed again in AA, and the .490 SLG plays just fine. he nuked the AFL in that short stint. The lack of a great defensive home is a bit of an issue, but his eye at the plate is pretty fantastic, especially at his stage of development. He doesn't have great speed, but does appear to be a quality baserunner; considering how often he gets on base, if he can swipe 10-15 bags a season through good jumps and smart choices at a good clip, then that's real value. (He's a career 77% base-stealer in the minors; if that can stay above 70% than it really does add to his value) I think he's probably going to be a 1B/DH guy who can fill in at a couple of other spots...but you don't really want him there regularly. But a .400 OBP and .450-.500 SLG plays anywhere. (his lack of defensive acumen at 2B/3B is less worrisome with Brooks Lee, Austin Martin, and Royce Lewis coming through, along with Miranda & Correa already on the roster and oh yeah let's not forget Polanco) he should be a very fun watch in Saint Paul, and I expect to see him him at Target Field sometime this year.
    3 points
  42. The Twins moved him around a lot in 21, trying to find a home for him. Last Year he was at 2nd base exclusively, except for a few games as the DH. Looks like they have decided 2nd is his home and are going to leave him there.
    3 points
  43. First, I kind of like the positive feel to what I thought was going to be another bashing article from the headline. Or maybe pre-coffee has me overly cynical this Monday morning. That said, 2nd half they were 4th? Understand that was with Pagan doing Pagan things and Lopez not doing 1st half Lopez things. If Lopez continued his first 1/2 All Star approach they probably would have been higher than 4th. I am not so down on Pagan as others are primarily because I trust the evaluators. I only pretend to know what I am doing here. It appears it is not just the Twins FO that like what Pagan has to potentially offer. You have to be careful of reacting from emotion vs logic. Cutting bait with some "hack" named Ortiz did not turn out well. Flip side argument is that everyone was high on Sano, and he just could not (so far), improve his approach at the plate. I am good with this team as it stands. I sacrificed a Packer Backer to the Baseball Gods for better health this year.
    3 points
  44. I take exception to the last comment! Have you ever engaged in hand-to-hand combat at a budget meeting for the last donut? That, my friend, involves some serious torque!
    3 points
  45. That hasn't been the standard for the Hall of Fame since about 1946.
    3 points
  46. Welcome to Twins Daily. Can you give us the name of all of the Hall of Fame catchers with 3,000 hits. RBI's are a function of runners in scoring position in front of you. Joe Mauer was the best batter with RISP the Twins had. Mauer was actually underpaid. For some reason Mauer has received more criticism from Twins fans. Baseball fans across the country have never understood this phenomena. I have been asked about this many times. The writer who is larger considered the closest thing to an expert on who belongs or not in the Hall of Fame, Jay Jaffe, has repeatedly stated that Mauer will be elected and should go in on the first ballot .... and it isn't really very close. Baseball players, managers, and executives are all pretty much completely aligned with Jaffe. Joe Mauer was an amazing catcher and we are not likely to see his equal in a Twin uniform. I don't want to tell you are wrong about Mauer because I don't know if you have passed the exam on concussions yet.
    3 points
  47. Great article @Hunter McCall. One question, why did you include Miranda’s 246 mlb innings of 3B fielding, but ignore Kirilloff’s 345 mlb innings at 1B as SSS?
    3 points
  48. I couldn't agree with you more. It wasn't his fault he had numerous concussions that forced his move to first base where he didn't produce at the same level. The guy is a role model on doing things the right way and the Twins were privileged that he played his entire career in Minnesota. I would much rather see a guy like Mauer in Cooperstown than guys who were as you put it, complete scumbags.
    3 points
  49. I absolutely LOVED this article. I for one was not in the “Correa is outstanding” camp, so the analysis and outlook here makes all the sense in the world for third base. I’m really hoping AK stays healthy so we can truly is him and see him grow. Loved this article, great read!
    3 points
  50. Fake news. Applebees nachos are awful. I can’t stand by quietly. Whether satire or not, the idea may take hold and impact someone’s life. If I save just one person from ordering Applebees nachos, it’s worth it.
    3 points
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