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    Nick Nelson

    One year and one day after Chase Petty was born, Joe Mauer debuted in the majors. 

    Mauer went on to enjoy a 15-year MLB career, which ended only three seasons ago, while Petty grew into a flamethrowing pitcher worthy of joining him in the lineage of Twins first-round picks – exactly 20 years after Mauer went first overall.

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    Age: 18 (DOB: 4/4/03)
    2021 Stats (Rookie): 5 IP, 5.40 ERA, 1.40 WHIP, 6 K, 1 BB
    ETA: 2025
    2021 Ranking: NR

    National Top 100 Rankings

    BA: NR | MLB: NR | ATH: NR | BP: NR

    What's To Like

    Pure, raw upside. Petty may have a long way to go (as we'll discuss), but he's got plenty to work with. 

    The 18-year-old grew up in Millville, NJ, a city which is now best known as the hometown of Mike Trout. Petty quickly emerged as a special talent on the mound, and committed to the University of Florida as a sophomore in high school.

    By the time he was done at Mainland Regional High, going to college would barely be a consideration.

    Petty emerged as a top pitching prospect in the nation during his senior year, returning from the pandemic downtime with newfound velocity. In his first start of 2021, after more than a year off, he reportedly touched 102 MPH multiple times en route to a complete game, one-hit shutout, striking out 13 of the 25 batters he faced. His 89th and final pitch buzzed in at 98.

    This set the stage for a final prep season that saw Petty go 6-1 with a 1.00 ERA and 99 strikeouts in 48 2/3 innings pitched, earning Gatorade Player of the Year honors in New Jersey. 

    The fastball is clearly special, rated by Baseball America as the best among all high school pitchers. Not only is its velocity incredible, but Petty's heater has impressive movement, too. "When it’s coming in, it looks like a ping-pong ball coming at you and it moves all over the place,” said one of his high school catchers

    His slider is as a legitimate weapon, viewed as having 70-grade potential, and his changeup is more advanced than most for his age. 

    The Twins selected him with their first pick in the 2021 draft, 26th overall, and sent him to a brief debut in rookie ball, where he struck out six of 21 batters (29%) with one walk over two short outings. 

    So far so good. But a long way to go.

    What's Left To Work On

    Staying healthy and staying the course. For all his potential, Petty's profile is a cacophony of burnout risk. 

    High school pitchers are inherently a hazardous bunch, as the Twins have learned with their last few high-profile gambles in the category. Third-rounder Blayne Enlow was persuaded to sign with an over-slot bonus instead of going to college in 2017. Five years later he's out for the season with Tommy John surgery and still hasn't pitched above A-ball. Kohl Stewart, the fourth overall pick in 2013, was a total bust.

    Risk is elevated for prep pitchers who are touching triple-digits. 

    “There’s always a concern that physically guys who throw that hard in high school are not catching up to what their arms are doing,” said one big-league scout in a story for the Philadelphia Inquirer. “There’s a concern they may break down at some point and there are concerns about what they’ve done to get to that point.”

    These concerns are well founded. There haven't been many high school pitchers known to reach 100 MPH, but this small sample hasn't yielded much success. 

    Hunter Greene, the power-pitching phenom selected 2nd overall in 2017 (right after Royce Lewis), endured major arm problems almost immediately, derailing his early prospect progression. He seemingly got back on track in 2021, but he's now 22 with a total of 179 innings logged in the minors.

    Riley Pint, taken 4th overall by the Rockies a year earlier and likewise lauded for brandishing 100-MPH heat as a teenager, was pretty much a mess from the get-go, plagued by persistent injury and control issues.

    These guys were both considered much "safer" bets than Petty, who fell to the back of the first round due to concerns about his mechanics and minimal established workload. Injuries limited his time on the field greatly as a sophomore, and COVID-19 wiped out his junior year, so Petty has a stunningly small sample of actual performance to analyze, even within the context of a prep pitcher.

    Keith Law of the The Athletic describes Petty as having "a high-effort delivery with some head violence, certainly not one you typically see in a starter," and adds that "the Twins may have to decide to tone down the delivery to give him a better chance to start or roll the dice on the pure power of his arm and see if he can get to command in spite of how it all works."

    What's Next

    Petty threw only five official innings last year after being drafted, speaking to the caution with which the organization will likely handle him going forward. As Law suggests, they're going to need to make a decision on whether they want to alter or tone down his delivery – possibly while sacrificing some of the pure power that makes him special – and from there it's a matter of building up his workload. 

    I wouldn't be surprised to see Petty spend the early part of the season on the sidelines to work on strength, conditioning, and stylistic refinement, then head to rookie ball or even Low-A as the summer gets going. It'll be interesting to keep an eye on his numbers, but ultimately, the real goal is a smooth and healthy season that sees him establish a workload baseline while acclimating to the pro ranks.

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    #10: Josh Winder, RHP
    #9: Chase Petty, RHP
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    I choose to be excited about his potential, rather than to focus on the negative. 

    Someplace in America there is a young man who will pick up a baseball and be so exceptional he will quickly move to the major leagues as the next phenom.  Someone like Dwight Gooden, without the baggage.  Why can't that someone be Chase Petty?  With all the disappointments the Twins have had drafting and developing starting pitching, maybe they are due for some good luck with this pick.

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    Too high - as usual I prefer to see some minor league performance before giving a top 10 ranking unless they are one of the no minor league phenoms and Petty is not.  The list of hazards is too long to list.  Right now he does not belong about Winder and others who have shown that they are progressing.  Good luck to him, but I have no expectations at this point which is the difference between prospects and potential.  

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    Comments like "high-effort delivery" and "head violence" remind me of when scouting reports described a player as "having a good face". It's as if they've decided there can be only one way to pitch and a young player must have a certain kind of pitching motion or it must be changed. I think there's as much risk in that kind of decision as there is in letting the pitcher continue on with what has been working for them.

    Petty apparently already has a good slider as a high school pitcher who threw 100mph. If you're throwing 100mph in high school, you don't really need anything else, so the fact that he might already have a plus off-speed pitch is remarkable and worth spending a high draft pick on. I'd like to see him in rookie ball, working on his secondary offerings and integrating them with the magical fastball. I kinda don't want to see them try and mess with his delivery at this point, not unless he's showing real problems with control against professional competition. Pitchers are not robots.

    Unless his delivery is showing signs of actually causing him damage to his body that will lead to injury and an adjustment will actually prevent it (as opposed to "well, we like this one better") then leave him alone. Let's see what he can do.

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    Even with all of the caveats, this is a kid to dream on.  I think what is special about him is that he has the makings of two great secondary pitches.  That is rare for a young kid, especially one who has so few innings under his belt.  If he stays healthy and focused, and I mean IF, this kid has the makings of a great number 1.  It will be fun to watch him develop.  

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    36 minutes ago, jmlease1 said:

    Comments like "high-effort delivery" and "head violence" remind me of when scouting reports described a player as "having a good face". It's as if they've decided there can be only one way to pitch and a young player must have a certain kind of pitching motion or it must be changed. I think there's as much risk in that kind of decision as there is in letting the pitcher continue on with what has been working for them.

    Petty apparently already has a good slider as a high school pitcher who threw 100mph. If you're throwing 100mph in high school, you don't really need anything else, so the fact that he might already have a plus off-speed pitch is remarkable and worth spending a high draft pick on. I'd like to see him in rookie ball, working on his secondary offerings and integrating them with the magical fastball. I kinda don't want to see them try and mess with his delivery at this point, not unless he's showing real problems with control against professional competition. Pitchers are not robots.

    Unless his delivery is showing signs of actually causing him damage to his body that will lead to injury and an adjustment will actually prevent it (as opposed to "well, we like this one better") then leave him alone. Let's see what he can do.

    Have to disagree with the premise here. The concern of high-effort delivery and head violence is repeatability of delivery and we have decades worth of data on that being a real concern. It doesn't mean nobody can make it (Scherzer is a great example), or that a team should try to make any massive changes to a pitcher's motion because of it, but it's important information when discussing possible pitfalls a prospect may face and what their future holds. The Twins didn't draft Petty in the first round with the plan of completely reworking his mechanics, but they know it's harder to maintain command and control when your head flies out (I don't see as much of that with Petty as guys like Keith Law seem to) and/or you're throwing max effort every pitch.

    Petty looks to be a very good athlete and he seems to work very hard at his craft. He doesn't need to throw 100 on every pitch and that'll be something the Twins work with him on to increase his chances of him staying a starter. High-effort deliveries make it much harder to get your plant foot in the same spot, your arm in the same slot, and keep your hand where it needs to be in relation to the ball (among many other things) on every single pitch. And that's what makes the great pitchers great. Repeatability. He may be a Scherzer-esque guy who can go all out every pitch and maintain command and control, but it took Scherzer a long time to finally lock that in and become the guy he is now. High-effort delivery and head violence are absolutely things that should be noted in scouting reports and can be real problems. Doesn't mean they have any intention of blowing up his delivery or changing anything at all, but it's things every scout and coach in pro baseball looks at and something they'll look to tweak if he starts to struggle.

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    If he shows up as a late season callup in 2025, we should all be glad.

     

    Of course, he needs to stay healthy and throw innings.

     

    Picture he will stay in instructional ball to start 2022 and probably pitch in short season, just so they can watch him  make adjustments. Although having the low-A team also in Ft. Myers can be for his benefit. Petty will get a call-in there if the opportunity arises.

    2023 is still all Ft. Myers so they can watch and work with him. If he shines, look for him to make a game jump to high-A or even AA JUST TO FACE SOME OLDER TALENT.

     

    2024 he WILL SPEND THE SEASON AT HIGH-A BALL.

     

    2025 HE WILL SPEND THE SEASON AT AA BALL.

     

    Sadly he will probably need Tommy John surgery or something like that right when the Twins need to consider adding him to the 40-man.

     

    But, if not, the Twins MIGHT see him on the major league roster in 2026, as he would probably have been added to the 40-man in the off-season.

     

    Vut he will spend most of the time at AAA ball, unless he has refocused into a bullpen arm by then.

     

    That means the Twins, under current MLB contracts, would have control of him up into the 2032 season.

     

    But I can only wonder "What If" he shines and comes to the majors at age 21 or 22.

     

     

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    4 hours ago, roger said:

    Someone like Dwight Gooden, without the baggage. 

    The track record is scary bad recently.

    MLB Draft: High school pitchers a bad choice in baseball - Sports Illustrated

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    From 2011-14 major league teams took 47 high school pitchers in the first round of the draft. Here are the ugly numbers with how those picks have turned out:

    • 51% never reached the big leagues (24).

    • 40% had elbow or shoulder surgery (19).

    • 17% are pitching in the majors with their original team (8).

    • 13% are no longer pitching in affiliated baseball (6).

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     Major league clubs drafted and signed 60 pitchers out of high school from 2008-12. The biggest winner among them is Jake Odorizzi, who has a losing record (47-48) and is on his third team.

     

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    5 hours ago, chpettit19 said:

    Have to disagree with the premise here. The concern of high-effort delivery and head violence is repeatability of delivery and we have decades worth of data on that being a real concern. It doesn't mean nobody can make it (Scherzer is a great example), or that a team should try to make any massive changes to a pitcher's motion because of it, but it's important information when discussing possible pitfalls a prospect may face and what their future holds. The Twins didn't draft Petty in the first round with the plan of completely reworking his mechanics, but they know it's harder to maintain command and control when your head flies out (I don't see as much of that with Petty as guys like Keith Law seem to) and/or you're throwing max effort every pitch.

    Petty looks to be a very good athlete and he seems to work very hard at his craft. He doesn't need to throw 100 on every pitch and that'll be something the Twins work with him on to increase his chances of him staying a starter. High-effort deliveries make it much harder to get your plant foot in the same spot, your arm in the same slot, and keep your hand where it needs to be in relation to the ball (among many other things) on every single pitch. And that's what makes the great pitchers great. Repeatability. He may be a Scherzer-esque guy who can go all out every pitch and maintain command and control, but it took Scherzer a long time to finally lock that in and become the guy he is now. High-effort delivery and head violence are absolutely things that should be noted in scouting reports and can be real problems. Doesn't mean they have any intention of blowing up his delivery or changing anything at all, but it's things every scout and coach in pro baseball looks at and something they'll look to tweak if he starts to struggle.

    I'd have to agree with you, but once again I have to take what Law says with a grain of salt.  "Head Violence"?  Without going directly with him and asking "WTH is that supposed to mean Keith?  You've completely lost me on this one", that turn of phrase once again makes me shake my head a little.

    Yes, Law knows a lot about baseball... I will never rebuke him about that, but at the same time he really seems to play the percentages (and possibly rightly so at times).  At the same time though, baseball is a game of... failure.  A hitter will "fail" 70% to 75% of the time and still can be considered successful.  Predicting that is often a matter of correlation and doesn't make you (I.E. Law) Nostradamus.

    That being said, I do agree and have seen (at least amongst HS and college kids) POs with max/super high effort deliveries often have trouble repeating the exact same delivery on every throw (thus the inconsistent results). 

    Will this be Petty's fate? It's too early to tell, but at the same time I don't feel that it is an area of concern for now or the immediate future.  That is something that can only be developed and honed over time. 

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    I think the more he pitches the more we learn of his true game speed. He may throw 100 mph 3-4 times a game, but average closer to 95-96. With a good slider and changeup that would make him a top of the rotation possibility.

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    Waaaaaaaay too much data against this kid that has nothing to do with this kid, yet is completely relevant.

    I digress.  However, I've mentioned this before.  Petty reminds me of J.B. Bukauskas mixed with a Michael Kopech, but with a slider.

    I'm excited.  Post-Royce Lewis, I haven't been terribly impressed with ANY first round pick off the bat, but quoting the great Larry Hockett, "This kid has some serious $H*%."

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    17 hours ago, gman said:

    I think the more he pitches the more we learn of his true game speed. He may throw 100 mph 3-4 times a game, but average closer to 95-96. With a good slider and changeup that would make him a top of the rotation possibility.

    I hope he never throws 100 MPH in a game next summer. He's too young to be throwing that hard. It will ruin him.

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    Control.  I hope they find out at what speed he can throw, while hitting his spots around the plate. Control is at least as important as speed. Once he has that control and  then increases  his speed... then we have a potential major league pitcher. :)

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