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How Big is the Twins Catching Problem?

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3 hours ago, DJL44 said:

Even for his career it's 103 stolen base attempts. You can get some information about batting after 103 at-bats.

The typical plate appearance consists of several pitches on each of which the batter must make a decision that helps reveal his skill. League average is just under 4. So those 103 at-bats contain a lot more useful information about the batter than do 103 SB attempts (or fielding chances in general).

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19 hours ago, DJL44 said:

Then they'll probably tell Jeffers to set up in a crouch.

After the last few years of teaching and coaching him to stay low with the twins, and I don't know if he crouched in school or not, That could take some time. Also, this whole staff from FO on down seems a little slow (or stubborn) to adapt.

Gabriel Moreno.  Find a way.

It is far better to be the A's or Blue Jays with inflated Catcher value to sell... then it is to be the team who is desperate to pay that price.

The Twins need to be the team that develops a Murphy or Moreno. 

If there is need to pay the marked up prices on catching, then the Twins catching problem is bad... because it's bad to be in that position.  

The current strength, potential and ability to develop and cultivate the players on the list below will tell you.... "How Big is the Twins Catching Problem?"

                                             
  ORIGINAL SIGNING INFO Prospect Rank Power Rank
2022 STATS
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PROJ LEVEL POS # PLAYER BATS AGE HOW ACQUIRED Options or R5 Status MLB Service Time Year Team Rd Pick Ovr Rank ('22) Org Rank ('22) Org Rank ('21) Ovr PA HR SB OPS ETA Max Level ('22)
AAA C/1B   Alex Isola
AFL
R 24.4 Drafted 29th Rd '19 R5   2019 MIN 19 869       927           AA
AAA C 73 David Bañuelos R 26.2 Trade (SEA) Dec'17 R5   2017 SEA 5 153                   AAA
 
AA C   Jair Camargo R 23.4 Trade (LAD) Feb'20 R5   JUL 2015 LAD         39             AA
AA C/1B   Kyle Schmidt R 25.4 Drafted 33rd Rd '19 R5   2019 MIN 33 989                   AAA
AA C   Pat Winkel L 22.9 Drafted 9th Rd '21 Dec'24   2021 MIN 9 279                   A+
 
A+ C/1B   Noah Cardenas R 23.2 Drafted 8th Rd '21 Dec'24   2021 MIN 8 249       602           A
A+ C/1B   Charles Mack L 23.1 Drafted 6th Rd (184) '18 R5   2018 MIN 6 184     40             A+
A+ C/1B   Dillon Tatum R 22.5 Drafted 20th Rd '21 Dec'24   2021 MIN 20 609                   AA
 
A C/1B   Nate Baez R 21.5 Drafted 12th Rd '22 Dec'25   2022 MIN 12 354                   A
A C/LF/2B   Ricardo Olivar R 21.3 Amateur FA (VEN) Jul'19 Dec'23   JUL 2019 MIN                       A
 
Rk C   Wilfri Castro R 21.7 Amateur FA (DOM) Jul'17 R5   JUL 2017 MIN                       R
Rk C   Ricardo Pena R 17.5 Amateur FA (VEN) Apr'22 Dec'26   APR 2022 MIN                      

Using Logic which may or may not be worth something. 

Narvaez has pop and he worked with some of the best arms in baseball. 

If mid-tier is where we will be shopping and assuming Catchers work closely with pitchers. Maybe Narvaez can bring some Burnes, Hader, Woodruff, know how to our young pitchers. 

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