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Or when the other team doesn't give up what you want.  I'd rather see Santana as a Twin at the end of the day rather than a sub-par package for him.

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The Twins do have the advantage of not needing to trade him.  He's a good player - already worth 2 WAR this season - on a decent contract.  He shouldn't be a salary dump.  If they can't get a better p

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Per Jon Heyman, Twins sending Abad to Red Sox.  

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Dillon Tate for two months of Carlos Beltran?! Come ON!

That's a nice return, even though Tate isn't exactly setting the pro game on fire.  He dropped off of MLB's midseason top 100 (had been #36 preseason).  But he was the 4th overall pick just a year ago, and Beltran is of course 2 months of a 39 year old DH (although a pretty darn reliable one, with some big postseason experience too).

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Wow, Yankees just traded Beltran for Tate+more.

Once A-Rod and a couple of those contracts are off the books the Yankees are setting up for another dynasty like run.

Yep, they have acquired a boatload of prospects. One of the lessons the Twins could learn from this: You can spend for top talent, and then sell it off for top prospects if things don't go well. The Yankees spend some $ on Miller and Chapman, but once it became apparent they were out this year, they turned that $ into valuable future pieces. 

 

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Yep, they have acquired a boatload of prospects. One of the lessons the Twins could learn from this: You can spend for top talent, and then sell it off for top prospects if things don't go well. The Yankees spend some $ on Miller and Chapman, but once it became apparent they were out this year, they turned that $ into valuable future pieces. 

Yeah Cashman has done a helluva job not only convincing his bosses they needed to do the un Yankee like "rebuild" but brought back 4 or 5 top 50 top prospects!

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Yep, they have acquired a boatload of prospects. One of the lessons the Twins could learn from this: You can spend for top talent, and then sell it off for top prospects if things don't go well. The Yankees spend some $ on Miller and Chapman, but once it became apparent they were out this year, they turned that $ into valuable future pieces. 

 

I'm jealous of the ability of the Yankees to reload so easily like that. Even if their drafting is terrible they will always have pieces to trade and for some reason teams loves forking over their top prospects for them. They make it look so easy.

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Maybe it is a bit of an F off to Lucroy?  Oh, you don't want to beat out an up and coming player?  Fine, we'll add just that!

Nah, I don't think that was Lucroy's real reason for rejecting the deal.  He must get along pretty well with Milwaukee management, after all he signed the deal and hasn't really complained that I can recall.

 

The Brewers have to plan for a life after Lucroy, though, and Susac isn't really a threat to Lucroy for the next year anyway.

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Yep, they have acquired a boatload of prospects. One of the lessons the Twins could learn from this: You can spend for top talent, and then sell it off for top prospects if things don't go well. The Yankees spend some $ on Miller and Chapman, but once it became apparent they were out this year, they turned that $ into valuable future pieces. 

 

Unfortunately, I think that's more a Pohlad constraint than anything... but yes, I agree. 

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KLAW just said that Yankees are now one of the top 3 farm systems.....that is one fast rebuild if they pan out!

Wow. That would be a quick turnaround for any franchise, but especially one who almost always travels in the opposite direction on the veteran <=> prospect highway.

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Yep, they have acquired a boatload of prospects. One of the lessons the Twins could learn from this: You can spend for top talent, and then sell it off for top prospects if things don't go well. The Yankees spend some $ on Miller and Chapman, but once it became apparent they were out this year, they turned that $ into valuable future pieces. 

They will build a base from these guys and then spend big for pitching.

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KLAW just said that Yankees are now one of the top 3 farm systems.....that is one fast rebuild if they pan out!

MLBpipeline says they may be their #1. Not much in terms of frontline pitching though, or top of the line (top 10 overall range) prospects, but great depth. 

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MLBpipeline says they may be their #1. Not much in terms of frontline pitching though, or top of the line (top 10 overall range) prospects, but great depth. 

If they're able to build a lineup from within, they have plenty of resources to fill in the holes in their pitching staff.

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I'm jealous of the ability of the Yankees to reload so easily like that. Even if their drafting is terrible they will always have pieces to trade and for some reason teams loves forking over their top prospects for them. They make it look so easy.

There is a lot of luck involved in this. The one year that the Yanks are actually in a position to sell just happens to be the year when everyone is willing to pay a crazy amount on relief pitching (thanks Royals) AND when the Yankees just happened to have two of the best relief pitchers. Now some of this is by design, and Cashman deserves credit for executing. But if this was an offseason when everyone was paying top-dollar for starting pitching, the Yanks wouldn't have much to offer.

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There is a lot of luck involved in this. The one year that the Yanks are actually in a position to sell just happens to be the year when everyone is willing to pay a crazy amount on relief pitching (thanks Royals) AND when the Yankees just happened to have two of the best relief pitchers. Now some of this is by design, and Cashman deserves credit for executing. But if this was an offseason when everyone was paying top-dollar for starting pitching, the Yanks wouldn't have much to offer.

 

So they took advantage of their resources, and didn't keep them around "to be competitive this year/next year"? Isn't that what a smart team does? Some teams trade their players, and get better, some do not......for some reason.

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There is a lot of luck involved in this. The one year that the Yanks are actually in a position to sell just happens to be the year when everyone is willing to pay a crazy amount on relief pitching (thanks Royals) AND when the Yankees just happened to have two of the best relief pitchers. Now some of this is by design, and Cashman deserves credit for executing. But if this was an offseason when everyone was paying top-dollar for starting pitching, the Yanks wouldn't have much to offer.

The Yankees have 27 World Series title, "luck" often happens to the teams that earn it.

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I'm jealous of the ability of the Yankees to reload so easily like that. Even if their drafting is terrible they will always have pieces to trade and for some reason teams loves forking over their top prospects for them. They make it look so easy.

Money is a big advantage.

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Is the fact that Suzuki isn't being talked about an indication of how bad our catching is?  I mean, he's our starter and no one even wants him as a backup???

I think this thread is talking about Santana b/c of the rumors Jeremy put out there.  I would imagine that teams are looking at Suzuki - certainly there have been reports on mlbtraderumors of that but nothing specific.  I think Lucroy is slowing the catching market, but I have no idea.

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