Best trade deadline ever!

 

How bout Alex Meyer and Nolasco?

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/08/twins-to-acquire-hector-santiago-ricky-nolasco-alex-meyer-to-angels.html

PUMPED! That is huge to get rid of him. 

4 more minutes to get rid of Plouffe and make my day complete!

 

Twins also get P-Alan Businetz.  Not much of a prospect, but he does add depth in the Minors.

 

We are talking about the same Ervin Santana here right? The 33yo career average starting pitcher who's due 27M/2YR?  Twins fans are talking like this guy is a Cy Young candidate

'He is compared to 90% of the guys the Twins have run out there the last 5 years' is probably the underlying thought there. That said, I was hoping the Twins would shop him at least one notch more aggressively than 'have to be blown away by an offer'

I'm a supporter.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/08/twins-to-acquire-hector-santiago-ricky-nolasco-alex-meyer-to-angels.html

 

Holy f&$@

I gotta admit, I had high hopes for Meyer.....but if they packaged him with Nolasco, and got back nothing, I'd be impressed....but to get back a player that actually plays? 3-3.

There are going to be a variety of headlines on this one....

 

Twins acquire...

 

Twins trade....

 

Twins swap.... 

 

Angels acquire....

 

Angels swap....

We get a decent MLB starter for Nolasco and a former pitching prospect who needs a change of scenery.  I am starting to Antony deserves a chance to stay.

I like that Santiago's career FIP is almost 1 run higher than his career ERA.

 

To paraphrase Rob Antony, "santiago is a 10-4 guy, but I think he could be a 4-10 guy."

Edited August 1, 201610 yr by notoriousgod71

Interestingly, Hector Santiago is actually a FIP over-performer.

I like the trade. I still have hope for Alex Meyer though. Bye Ricky!

All the jays gave away was some rookie ball pitcher, #18 on their list. Doubt that is the same offer they gave for Santana, but pass for sure.

Additions to the organization under Antony:

P-Adalberto Mejia

P-Pat Light

P-Hector Santiago   

 

Not bloody bad.

not sure I like this...

I think if there is money going from the Twins to the Angels, it makes that deal look far less impressive.

 

I think if there is money going from the Twins to the Angels, it makes that deal look far less impressive.

 

Why? Nolasco was bad here, and Meyer is the disappearing man.....and they got a guy that might start for them while we wait for the AA phenoms to get here......what difference does the money make?

So, we gave up Meyer to get rid of Nolasco AND we sent money to the Angels to pay for his lousy contract AND we got a guy back who is a FA next year?  I don't think this is a good deal for us.

Dave Cameron.....

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/instagraphs/the-weirdest-trade-of-the-day-year/

 

 

So, we gave up Meyer to get rid of Nolasco AND we sent money to the Angels to pay for his lousy contract AND we got a guy back who is a FA next year?  I don't think this is a good deal for us.

Any deal that gets Nolasco out of town is a good deal....

 

Why? Nolasco was bad here, and Meyer is the disappearing man.....and they got a guy that might start for them while we wait for the AA phenoms to get here......what difference does the money make?

Note that I said, "less impressive", not necessarily bad.

Also, Alan Busenitz throws upper 90's, so he's not just a throw in.

 

I'm not so sure 2017 is the Twins option. I know that has been talked about on here, but I've seen absolutely no evidence of it anywhere else. 

According to Cots contracts he has a $6M option for 2017. It vests if he reaches 485 plate appearances. To me that indicates the Twins have the option of picking it up, unless he reaches 485 PAs, in which case they HAVE to pick it up. 

 

Uh wait a second. I just saw that Alan Busenitz, the throw in guy the Twins got from the Angels is also from Kennesaw State, just like Light.

 

Is that a coincidence?

 

Jeremy speculates the Twins are sending the difference in their remaining 2016 salaries, which would be $2.4 mil.  Not a big deal.

 

Weird trade!  Some points for creativity.

And $4M next year it sounds like.

 

So, we gave up Meyer to get rid of Nolasco AND we sent money to the Angels to pay for his lousy contract AND we got a guy back who is a FA next year?  I don't think this is a good deal for us.

 

Not a free agent next year. Sounds like he has another year of arbitration remaining. Should bring a little more stability to the rotation while waiting on pitching prospects to come up next year.

If the tough right field porch can keep a few of Hector's home run shots in the yard, it might work out for us.

 

Not a free agent next year. Sounds like he has another year of arbitration remaining. Should bring a little more stability to the rotation while waiting on pitching prospects to come up next year.

Got it.  OK, sounds like we are paying the rest of this year and 4 mil next year.  Hmmm.  Well, I guess we need a lefty in the rotation since I don't see Milone in the rotation next year.

I am happy to get Nolasco out of here.  Now if Nolasco becomes a better than average starter and Meyer reaches his potential, then we know there is something really wrong with the Twins organizations and how they develop pitching and coach pitching.