Minnesota Twins Talk

LaVelle put this out there yesterday on the Chin Music Podcast about CC. The Twins are reportedly offering different length deals at different AAVs. https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/twins/report-twins-offering-carlos-correa-multiple-contract-lengths-values?src=rss View full rumor

Oh No. The Twins tendered Pagan. Someone on mlbtraderumors said, "Worst front office in the league." Interesting decision. Apparently, Falvey has doubled down on that SD trade, at least temorarily.

It has crossed my mind that a big starting pitcher will refuse to sign with the Twins. This is due to the limitations Rocco puts on pitching. It is all well to protect the player's arm but isn't that why we pay them so much money so they can pitch. I am interested if I am the only one who feels this?

The more I think about the more the Royce Lewis injury has affected this off-season. If Lewis would have stayed healthy our off-season would have a lot easier decisions. Before the injury Lewis played 12 games 40 at-bats hitting .300 with 2 HR, 4 doubles, and 5 RBI’s. Obviously he was doing amazing and proving why he was the Twins #1 draft pick. Now would he have kept up that production for the rest of the season? We couldn’t find out and that’s the issue. If Lewis was able to play a full season and do well then maybe we don’t even care about signing Correa because we have a SS for the future. Or we do still go after a SS and move Lewis to 2nd and trade Po…

As today is Thanksgiving, I’d like to share my appreciation. I’m eternally grateful for TD and all the work to deliver content and platform that the owners, John, Nick, Seth, Parker and Brock, content creators, and my fellow moderators/community leaders do. This great group of people keep TD going strong after all these years. Most of all, I’m grateful for our community members. All the posters with their passion for the Twins and their minor league affiliates, with their respectful differing opinions makes this a great place to talk Twins. Thank you all so much!

I think the Twins are going to go all in on offense this year, and let some of their young guys give it a go in the pitching staff. I'd expect the 5th starter to be fairly fluid, based on who has the hot hand at the moment, and we might also see that from the 4th starter spot depending on Bailey Ober's health. I'd guess I'll have to do that once or twice with the #1 and #2 starter spots, too, but what the heck...I want to see how some of our AA and AAA guys do in the majors this year. I'm still moving Kepler and Polanco in order to get younger/healthier/more productive guys into the lineup, and the upshot is that they should both bring back some interesting young tal…

C: Wilson Contreras ($21M) 1B: Luis Arraez ($4.50M) 2B: Jorge Polanco ($7.50M) 3B: Gio Urshela ($9.00M) LF: Alex Kirilloff ($0.70M) CF: Byron Buxton ($15.00M) RF: Max Kepler ($8.50M) DH: Jose Miranda ($0.70M) 4th OF: Kyle Garlick ($0.70M) Utility: Nick Gordon ($0.70M) Utility: Gilberto Celestino ($0.70M) Backup C: Ryan Jeffers ($0.7M) SP1: Sonny Gray ($12.00M) SP2: Tyler Mahle ($8.00M) SP3: Kenta Maeda ($9.00M) SP4: Joe Ryan ($0.70M) SP5: Bailey Ober ($0.70M) RP: Jhoan Duran ($0.70M) RP: Jorge Lopez ($3.00M) RP: Griffin Jax ($0.70M) RP: Jorge Alcala ($1.…

I posted this elsewhere, but with all the noise I think this deserves a topic unto itself: The Farmer signing is getting a lot of heat, especially if you think he will be our starting SS next year. So here is my question: Assuming the Twins do not sign any of the big four FA shortstops on the market (a reasonable expectation even if the Twins make a strong push) what else should they do to address SS? Personally I think Farmer fits the short-term idea pretty well, but that does not seem to be the general consensus. No big 4 SS, what else should they do?

Very inspiring

It's T-Day week, and I get to start time off early this week! Yahoo! So I find myself perusing TD today, as well as MLB.com, and MLBTR, looking for news about free agent comings and goings. And not surprisingly, there is none. So I ask myself, and TD community, what gives with MLB and their excruciatingly interminable annual interregnum known as free agency? Aaron Judge was quoted saying not much will happen with him, and not much generally until the winter meetings, because things traditionally don't start moving until then. (Note to Aaron: not even then Aaron, not even then.) Winter meetings are 3 weeks after the start of free agency. 3 flippin weeks. And cric…

Just heard that James Rowson was fired from MIA & joined DET as an assistant batting coach on Gleeman & the Geek. I was shocked, why didn't Twins sweep this guy up? Yes, he didn't do very well at MIA buts thats MIA. He was great at MN, It seems like DET caught MN sleeping again. What do you think?

Going Paul Bunyon Big (dreaming) bec I don't want to be a AAAA Team C4 8yrs $320M (front load if possible. I still like his odds of aging well when I look back at CPjr. WARs are almost identical; stats are very similar as is the body types.) Rodon 4yrs $120M or 5 yrs $125M (NOTE: The Athletic projects a 5yr, $160M contract) Trade Kepler and Urshela(Done). I'd look to Miami to trade Kepler. We are NOT getting Lopez for Kepler, but we might get one of their pitching prospects and they have done an excellent job identifying pitching talent. Jose "Read me my Rights" Miranda gets 3rd base. Matt "Up Against The" Wallner gets RF Backup C…

calibrating recent moves in Miss out on C4 but land Bogarts on a creative 4 year 88 plus incentives to push it over 100m with MVPs Sign Rodon to a 4 year 100m deal sign Narvaez to a 1 year 5m deal I want to do more w/ outfield. Needs more hitting, but couldn’t keep it in the realm of possibility and still get a SS and starting pitcher. As I’m typing this, it dawned on me that much of the language from DYP and the FO sounds like they’re not prioritizing SP, but that would lead to a very similar pitching situation that we saw in 22…. Yuck C: Ryan Jeffers ($0.70M) 1B: Luis Arraez ($4.50M) 2B: Jorge Polanco ($7.50M) 3B: Jose Mi…

Obviously, the Twins say they "want" to keep Correa but we've all heard this song and dance before. This interview gives little indication whether the Twins will actually be *competitive* in the Carlos Correa sweepstakes but at least they're talking about it as if it's a real possibility. This doesn't change my opinion whether the Twins have a real shot at keeping him or not but at least they're not already moving on and trying to convince the fanbase that's in the best interest of the franchise. What do you believe the odds are the Twins will have Carlos Correa on the 2023 Opening Day roster? https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/11/twins-rumors-carlos-correa-jim…

Traded Gio for a minor league pitcher: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/11/twins-trade-gio-urshela-angels.html

This time we get to see the script. All right, I’m on board with this. A pretty classic, clean look to it.

I'm changing up how we do rumors a bit to improve SEO and draw in more users. So if you come across a new rumor you want to start a thread about, do not start it in this forum! Instead, go here: https://twinsdaily.com/minnesota-twins-free-agents-trade-rumors/ Click "Add Rumor" and type up your post (with link or tweet, as you usually would). The system will automatically post the thread into this forum with "Rumor:" prefacing the topic. Why do this? SEO and Google's general dislike of forums. I'm working really hard to draw in new users and this helps a lot. By creating this new section of the site dedicated specifically to free agent and trade ru…

This is so good.

I wish I had thought of this earlier but oh well, that's how it goes. I'm looking to create a comprehensive gift-giving guide for Twins fans. If you've found cool trinkets, gadgets, or whatever that involve your favorite baseball team, please share them here. One thing to keep in mind: please don't link one-offs like autographed or game-worn equipment. I'd like this to be a list where if someone clicks into a link, it's not first come, first serve. Let's keep the list to readily-available niche products only. Here's an example of something that would be great for the list. https://dugoutmugs.com/collections/minnesota-twins Thanks in advance!

Move #1: Non-Tender Emilio Pagan and Waiver Mark Contreras this clears up space on the 40-man roster, Pagan isn’t consistent enough and Contreras is awful with the bat, but I could see him returning. 40-man Total: 38 Move #2: Trade Max Kepler to the Kansas City Royals for Adalberto Mondesi and Luca Tresh The Royals need more outfielders and like high-quality defense, which they will find in Kepler. With Bobby Witt, Nicky Lopez and Nick Pratto covering second, third, and Short Mondesi becomes expendable, and fills a backup infielder role in Minnesota. Tresh is a Catching Prospect who ended his year in AA, and is KC’s 15th ranked prospect. He adds at least on…

3 new positions in the FO, a 3rd hitting coach, and a 30-yr old Director of Player Development (who never played college or pro ball), who just happens to be the son of a former GM. Good grief.

Didn’t see this one. So much for adding another right handed hitting outfielder with upside.

Per ESPN, Correa is opting out after a strong season and at "the peak of his career". No surprise whatsover, but there it is. He also is careful not to burn bridges with Minny, indicating he enjoyed his season and is open to returning. Just get a Brinks Truck lined up. (OK, I added that last part).

? Contreras ($16.07M) 1B: Jose Abreu ($9.12M) 2B: Luis Arraez ($4.50M) 3B: Gio Urshela ($11.00M) SS: Austin Martin ($.7M) LF: Andrew Binentendi ($17.40M) CF: Byron Buxton ($15.00M) RF: Joc Pederson ($14.68M) DH: Jose Miranda ($1.25M) 4th OF: Billy Hamilton ($0.70M) Utility: Nick Gordon ($1.40M) Utility: Alex Kirilloff ($0.80M) Backup ? Jeffers ($.70M) SP1: Sonny Gray ($8.00M) SP2: Joe Ryan ($1.25M) SP3: Tyler Mahle ($9.00M) SP4: Kenta Maeda ($8.0M) SP5: Bailey Ober ($0.70M) RP: Jhoan Duran ($1.40M) RP: Jorge Lopez ($3.00M) RP: Griffin Jax ($0.70M) …

Who do you think is more upset now; Twins fans or Yankees fans? I would say Yankees fans whose team just set a record for consecutive LCS losses. Not a whole lot of consolation but it is a fact that the only fans not disappointed are the WS champ's fans. The real question as the "starts at the top" thread pointed out is can there at least be a stated goal to field the best team possible and win as many games as possible? Unless there can be demonstrated proof that there is, the only solution is at the gate. Big money thrown on free agents is not necessarily the answer. Development of young talent and effective management at all levels seems to be deficient with the Twins …

They hired Nick Paparesta away from the A's to lead the new training staff. He'd been there for 12 years as head athletic trainer. Hope it's a good hire.

Today we officially did not pick up the options on Bundy, Archer, Sano. Is anyone surprised or sad? What does it say about the team that it was even an option to take their options? Sano is the most understandable. We extended him with hope. We thought he would grow towards the promise that he always possessed, but it did not happen. Archer and Bundy are the latest reclamations that we could not reclaim. Maybe it is time to stop hoping and sign the players we really want and need. So who is next?

So this one is inspired by the latest GATG episode. It's a bit over budget, but I think it's sellable to ownership as the time to splurge. If cuts are absolutely needed, there are some opportunities. I could swap out a different C (Barnhardt?), IF (Adrianza?) and OF (Celestino?) and reduce payroll by $3-5mil at each spot. Also, if the team rolled into spring training and all the SP looked healthy and effective, Mahle or Maeda could be traded to clear a spot and salary. Finally, I'm trading away Kepler and trading/non-tendering Urshela and Pagan. Urshela is tough for me. I think he should be worth $9mil to someone, but it's not this team, and probably no team, unfortunatel…

Poor, poor Bill James. Based on many of the comments here, it sounds like if the majority of TD readers had their way, they would go back in time and make Bill James "disappear"... I have been wondering for a long time why everybody seems to blame all of the bad things that happened this year on "Rocco's overreliance on analytics". Does he use analytics? Sure... so does everybody else in baseball (not to mention football, basketball, hockey, curling, and any other activity that analytics can give you an advantage). But why the attack on the analytics usage? More directly, why the attack on specific parts of his analytic usage? Defensive shifts General def…

C: Ryan Jeffers ($0.70M) 1B: Luis Arraez ($4.50M) 2B: Jorge Polanco ($7.50M) 3B: Gio Urshela ($9.00M) SS: Carlos Correa ($35.1M) LF: Alex Kirilloff ($0.70M) CF: Byron Buxton ($15.00M) RF: Max Kepler ($8.50M) DH: Jose Miranda ($0.70M) 4th OF: Kyle Garlick ($0.70M) Utility: Nick Gordon ($0.70M) Utility: Gilberto Celestino ($0.70M) Backup C: Omar Narvaez ($5.0M) …