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Twins Tender Fien, And It's Not Fine


Ted Schwerzler

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The deadline to tender contracts to arbitration eligible players has come and gone again. This time around, the Twins had six players to decide upon. Four of them were locks for new contracts: Tommy Milone, Kevin Jepsen, Eduardo Escobar, and Trevor Plouffe. Two however, were not. Casey Fien and Eduardo Nunez were both tendered contracts despite having their status somewhat up in the air.

 

Regarding Nunez, there's not much reason to show displeasure with the decision one way or another. Had he not been tendered, the Twins would have opened a roster spot for someone with a higher ceiling but the potential to struggle when called upon. In bringing Nunez back, Minnesota has a serviceable utility man that can do it all, but not at a relatively high level.

 

The bigger issue is with the decision to tender a contract to Casey Fien.

 

We have seen this before with the Twins, and most recently, with Brian Duensing. Duensing was a pitcher on the wrong side of the marginal line that Minnesota continued to go to arbitration with, and make a mainstay in the pen. Over the past two seasons Duensing owned just a 5.0 K/9 while walking batters at a 3.6 BB/9 clip. He owned a 3.76 ERA and while being capable of eating innings, wasn't particularly effective.

 

Fien is of a similar mold at this point in his career. Although Fien has never walked batters at the clip Duensing has (just a 1.7 BB/9 career number), he doesn't strike out many either. In 2015, Fien sat batters down at just 5.8 K/9 despite being a back end of the pen/high leverage arm. His 3.55 ERA was the best mark since 2012, but the now 32 year old owned a Twins career worst 3.45 FIP (fielding independent pitching).

 

As things stand for Fien, he's far from the pitcher that struck out 8.2 and 10.6 per nine in 2012 and 2013 respectively. His 2.06 2012 ERA is a distant memory, and expecting things to stay the same rather than get worse seems to be a long shot. After making $1.375 million a year ago, Fien will earn something like $2.5 million in 2016, a healthy raise.

 

Coming out of spring training, the Twins bullpen was a point of contention among media members and bloggers. The Twins front office took shots at those stories suggesting that the pen was indeed fine, and built in a way that made sense. As expected, the Twins pen went on to be one of the worst in the big leagues over the past season. The breakdown of Glen Perkins likely prompted the eventual failure to make the playoffs, and once again had the bullpen being a key area for improvement in the year ahead.

 

Although the Twins have been linked to relievers such as Joakim Soria, their 40 man roster is currently at its capacity. They will need to make a move should they wish to acquire the services of another player. It's not a massive undertaking by any means to do so, but Minnesota could have begun the improvement by trimming some of the proverbial fat in the case of Fien.

 

It would stand to reason that Minnesota would look to internal options at some point in the year ahead. Both Nick Burdi and Jake Reed seem close to ready on the farm, as well as potential fits such as Taylor Rogers. Regardless, if Minnesota is going to take the next step in the year ahead, continuing down a path of accepting mediocrity isn't a good route.

 

Neither decision, Nunez or Fien, is incredibly egregious, but they follow a decision making process that doesn't support incremental improvement. Minnesota is entering a phase in which the big league club is ready to win. At this point, they need to get out of their own way.

 

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It's fine. Depth is good. The contract won't be big. It'll be fine for the 7th inning. Those young guys won't start the season with the team. He's had success in the past. He was hurt last year and late the year before. 

No, not really. It's the same issue they went into the season with last year. For $2.5 million, you go look elsewhere. You don't continue to take guys like Casey Fien and Brian Duensing to arbitration.

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Signing Nunez is perfectly fine. Reserve utility infielders who hit league average with some power are worth at least what he'll be paid. He can be traded later in the year if the Twins think they have a better option for his role.

 

I'm surprised they tendered Fien. I would've let him leave.

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Signing Nunez is perfectly fine. Reserve utility infielders who hit league average with some power are worth at least what he'll be paid. He can be traded later in the year if the Twins think they have a better option for his role.

 

I'm surprised they tendered Fien. I would've let him leave.

That's basically where I am with Nunez. It signifies Twins aren't sold on someone younger/higher ceiling taking the role though.

 

Fien, while signifies more a problem in process than it does in bringing him specifically back.

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It's been my long time complaint, the safe, known mediocre is the better than the high upside, youthful unknown. Maybe it's just me, but if I know the player in question is not going to help take me to the next level, then I look at someone who could. Will he? I don't know! But I do know the other one won't! That's how you get better. Yes it's possible to get worse, but that's part of being in charge. Almost anyone can be average!

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It's been my long time complaint, the safe, known mediocre is the better than the high upside, youthful unknown. Maybe it's just me, but if I know the player in question is not going to help take me to the next level, then I look at someone who could. Will he? I don't know! But I do know the other one won't! That's how you get better. Yes it's possible to get worse, but that's part of being in charge. Almost anyone can be average!

Agreed, this is the issue. If you're pushing to be a winner or included in the next level, you have to act as though you belong. The Twins were trashed about the pen going into last season, and Fien's inclusion signifies a safe route again.

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Not a real big fan of bringing Fien back but it seems like he is there to be a placeholder/ depth for when the young guys are ready.  TR needs to sign a legit setup guy/ closer plus 1 more reliever. 

 

Perkins

FA (Soria/ Clippard)

May

Jepsen

Tonkin

Fien

FA (Loogy or long guy)*

 

*Sean Marshall or Antonio Bastardo would look nice here though I would guess TR goes more along the lines of Cotts/ Ramos.

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No, not really. It's the same issue they went into the season with last year. For $2.5 million, you go look elsewhere. You don't continue to take guys like Casey Fien and Brian Duensing to arbitration.

Craig Kimbrel will make 11.25 million dollars in 2016 and was worth a 1.3 WAR in 2015. Casey Fien will make 2.5 million dollars in 2016 and was worth a 1.0 WAR in 2015. This is actually fair value for a seventh inning man, so I think this issue is being overblown.

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Craig Kimbrel will make 11.25 million dollars in 2016 and was worth a 1.3 WAR in 2015. Casey Fien will make 2.5 million dollars in 2016 and was worth a 1.0 WAR in 2015. This is actually fair value for a seventh inning man, so I think this issue is being overblown.

Really? C'mon... Craig Kimbrel is a 28 year old that posted 13.2 K/9 in 2015 and owns a 14.5 K/9 career mark. I'm good with opposition, but that's silly...

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Really? C'mon... Craig Kimbrel is a 28 year old that posted 13.2 K/9 in 2015 and owns a 14.5 K/9 career mark. I'm good with opposition, but that's silly...

Craig Kimbrel's salary is going to keep going up as he gets older, and although Kimbrel had a 142 ERA+ and Fien posted a 117 ERA+, with 100 being average.

 

I am not saying that Fien should be payed Kimbrel money, what I am saying is that this is a fair, reasonable deal, and that people are worrying too much about this.

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Craig Kimbrel's salary is going to keep going up as he gets older, and although Kimbrel had a 142 ERA+ and Fien posted a 117 ERA+, with 100 being average.

 

I am not saying that Fien should be payed Kimbrel money, what I am saying is that this is a fair, reasonable deal, and that people are worrying too much about this.

 

The comparison was nonsensical though as the two couldn't be less related. Fien being tendered a contract isn't wrong because of the money, but because he doesn't make the pen better. You could get someone significantly cheaper to do his job just as well if not better. You could also allocate those dollars/roster spot to an upgrade. Either way, it becomes moot if he's cut this spring.

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I think the point of argument is NOT that Nunez and Fien aren't worth the arbitration salary. It is more that the Twins MIGHT be able to do more with two vacant roster spots, rather than having to go the arbitration route with these two guys, and for the money involved, they could probably find suitable replacements from the field of free agents or (jn the end) a home for a prospect. Too late to add Jones to the bullpen list? If we lose Jones in the Rule 5 and he stays with a team, I'm going to feel minutely pissed that we kept Fien and his salary. Yes, noth Nunez and Fien CAN be worth keeping, but they are on the edge of the roster and not needed.

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I think the point of argument is NOT that Nunez and Fien aren't worth the arbitration salary. It is more that the Twins MIGHT be able to do more with two vacant roster spots, rather than having to go the arbitration route with these two guys, and for the money involved, they could probably find suitable replacements from the field of free agents or (jn the end) a home for a prospect. Too late to add Jones to the bullpen list? If we lose Jones in the Rule 5 and he stays with a team, I'm going to feel minutely pissed that we kept Fien and his salary. Yes, noth Nunez and Fien CAN be worth keeping, but they are on the edge of the roster and not needed.

 

Ding ding ding! Talking money is virtually irrelevant in an uncapped sport. Moves are almost always about the opportunity cost and who's else was available for the same role.

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I was in favor of non-tendering Fien. As noted above, he's a big league pitcher, but he is on the wrong side of 30 and his peripherals are slipping. Maybe the single salvation could be that he still can be optioned, so he can provide depth without standing in the way of a higher-upside setup guy.

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Not to upset with the Fien offering, even though I'm not a big fan either. As stated, to me, it's more about the roster spot than anything.

 

The cost isn't great. Healthy again, I think he could be solid in a 6th-7th inning role. I think of him as insurance in case of injury, or just poor performance from Tonkin and/or Pressly. (not that I expect it) As long a this doesn't preclude the team from still making a signing or trade move, I'm OK with it.

 

I am not in favor of the offer, and then standing pat simply waiting for Burdi or Reed or others to be ready. We've done too much of that the past couple of years in CF and the bullpen previously.

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The comparison was nonsensical though as the two couldn't be less related. Fien being tendered a contract isn't wrong because of the money, but because he doesn't make the pen better. You could get someone significantly cheaper to do his job just as well if not better. You could also allocate those dollars/roster spot to an upgrade. Either way, it becomes moot if he's cut this spring.

As this is your blog I probably shouldn't be dictating the commenting policies, but if you don't want us to bring salary into the issue, would it be too much to ask the same of you?

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I don't always agree with"The Baggy", but on the issue of players like Fien I do. And while he might have used the term "cheaper" in his original missive, the tenor of the piece was that it is time for the Twins to remove some of the middling names on the end of the roster, and try to get better, Fien, and likely Nunez are not going to get better, Fien is probably going to get worse. This is a team with options, it's not berift of young talent.

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Craig Kimbrel's salary is going to keep going up as he gets older, and although Kimbrel had a 142 ERA+ and Fien posted a 117 ERA+, with 100 being average.

 

I am not saying that Fien should be payed Kimbrel money, what I am saying is that this is a fair, reasonable deal, and that people are worrying too much about this.

 

That was cherry picking on steriods. 

Kimbrell was the best closer in the game and then tailed off (300+ ERA plus).  The market for a 1.3 WAR guy is not 11M. 

 

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