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Replacing Santana


jorgenswest

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As Ervin Santana gets ready for his first start in Rochester, I wondered what the impact of his loss has been on the Twins thus far. Mike Pelfrey was his immediate replacement and he has certainly stepped up to the task. He has far outperformed what we might have expected from Santana. It isn't really fair to compare his performance to just Pelfrey though.

 

I looked at the performance of Pelfrey, May and Milone. All three had opportunities that may not have been available had Santana not let down his team with his suspension.

 

The three together have combined for 32 starts thus far. In those 32 starts, they went 12-9 with a 3.59 ERA in 188 innings. The 32 starts represent a full season with an ERA+ of 111. Wow! No one could have projected those numbers.

 

What should have been expected from Santana? Last year he had an ERA+ of 93 with the Braves. He was very good in 2013 and absolutely awful in 2012. He is projected by Steamer to have an ERA of 4.31.

 

Is it possible that his absence has helped in the win column? Had Santana performed as projected, it may have cost the Twins 1 or 2 wins. I would go further and suggest that the timing of his suspension may have contributed to the Twins awful start to the season. Maybe it would be 2-3 wins (instead of 1-2) had they never signed him.

 

It would be unwise to use first half numbers to project second half numbers. I am not sure what their updated projections will look like, but they probably will be similar to Santana's and somewhat worse than league average ERA. I don't think projections would clearly show Santana as a better option among the four. He will add depth.

 

At this point, it doesn't appear Santana's loss has cost the Twins in the win column. It is likely just the opposite. I think Santana's suspension has had a positive impact on the win loss record thus far. I think it has been worth 2 wins.

 

Is it possible Santana's addition and placement in the starting rotation will cost them in the win column? This is a team that appears to have developed a good chemistry. May, Milone and Pelfrey have seized the opportunity and earned the trust of their teammates. If Santana is going to have a positive impact upon returning, he needs to start by being lights out in Rochester. Milone set that bar. Santana needs to approach it.

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IF and its a big IF, Pelfrey, Milone, and May could continue there current ways, I do think he will have a negative impact. But his being gone resulted in Pelfrey moving out of the pen, where his big arm could have helped a lot. And still might. It's gonna be a fun next couple weeks!

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Not a clue. (Mostly)

 

Funny, but these things kind of work themselves out. Already happened twice this year for the Twins with Pelfrey back in and May back up when Santana was suspended and Milone back up when Nolasco was hurt for the second time.

 

Hughes is a no-brainier, as is Gibson, as previously stated. And, as stated, May is pitching quite well to very well, and probably even better than surface numbers indicate. But also, winning or not, this team is still in transition, and May is part of the future. It would be grossly irresponsible to remove him from the rotation barring injury or just sudden and prolonged slump.

 

It has to be Pelfrey or Milone. And let's be honest, while NOBODY, not even his momma, saw Pelf having this kind of success this season, you HAVE to ride his year until I ends or stumbles. Milone has to be the odd man out, deserving or not.

 

And while I completely agree Milone doesn't seem to play in the bullpen, at the same time I have to ask, who else from the port side does right now? What is better for him and the Twins, Rochester to start until needed again or the ML bullpen for now?

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Since 2012 (Milone's first full season)

 

Milone 34-24, 3.97 ERA, 98 ERA+, 506 IP

 

Santana 32-33, 4.06 ERA, 95 ERA+, 585 IP

 

Milone is 28 and Santana is 32. Is it possible that Milone is the better pitcher today and into the future? Is it clear that he is not the better pitcher?

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I agree with Platoon, I think Santana's arrival will create a negative impact if Milone or Pelfrey is relegated to the bullpen.  Nolasco on disabled list, then on a hopefully extended rehab assignment, keeps him out of the equation and Santana can be plugged in to his spot. Then when Nolasco comes back, they should dump him.  The Twins cooked their own goose with all these contracts, full well knowing they are high risk. 

 

If there are no further injuries to the starters, I just don't see any way out of this but to trade 1 of them.

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I would think by now, people would realize that you don't have 5 starters for 5 spots.  Things always happen and may happen again even before Santana comes back.  This is not a problem: too many starters?  Doesn't our bullpen need a bunch of help?

 

Any one of those starters could go to the pen right now and help.  And it wouldn't hurt any of them (including Gibson and May) to spend a couple of months in the pen in order for us to continue winning.

 

Even though he has pitched so well, I could see Pelfrey being our Wade Davis.  Nolasco is definitely in the pen - he's not been reliable and frankly is now number 7 in the pecking order.

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