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How many free agent misses is too many free agent misses?


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The great American poet Chester Bennington once said "I tried so hard and got so far, but in the end, it doesn't even matter."

Every time that a notable (read: league-average) player signs with a team other than Minnesota, we hear the same complaints: "Typical Twins, always in the mix but never get it done."

Why is it that almost every time a guy signs, it's not with the Twins? Well, we can start with there being 29 other teams, so surely the club can't sign every player they're interested in.

However, it's not reasonable to expect the Twins to sign 1 in every 30 free agents, either. That's far too low. So where is the line? How many misses is too many misses?

For an elite player, almost every team would be interested in their services, for the right price. Oakland and Pittsburgh aren't going to be writing a $360,000,000 check for Arson Judge anytime soon, though. Some teams also wouldn't be in the mix for a specific player at their price because they have someone else at that position that isn't worth replacing for the money involved.

Then there's the matter of more, let's just say, role players. Guys that no one is salivating for, but teams are interested in their services nonetheless to fill roster gaps, if they have room. Take Michael Brantley, for example. The Angels would have money to sign him, but as an almost DH-only player at this point in his career, the Angels wouldn't be interested in him displacing Ohtani.

So let's take a situation where the Twins are hypothetically in on Dansby Swanson. He was tied to Chicago, Boston, LA, Atlanta, St. Louis,  San Francisco, and Minnesota over the offseason. So with Minnesota being one of seven teams, all things being equal, the Twins had a 14% chance to sign him. If the Twins were tied to seven Dansby Swanson-like players (one of seven in the mix) this offseason, would you be satisfied if they signed one of them?

What about someone like Josh Bell? Almost any team has a spot in some regard for a switch-hitting slugger. Obviously, we can throw out teams that would be unlikely to pay anyone 16.5MM right now like Oakland, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay, or Kansas City, or a team like Houston post-Abreu signing and the White Sox that doesn't need that type of player at current. Still, we're down to something like 18 teams that would be interested, at the right price. Should we be happy with the Twins getting 6% of those types of free agents, 1 of every 18? Probably not, especially if we only want to consider players the Twins made a real run at.

Building off of that, how much should the context of the Twins being a mid-to-small market team affect your expectations? Given that they're competing in this case with five big-market teams and the Cardinals, one would assume that they would be less likely to put up the money, based on budgetary reasons. So should you expect to see the team snag fewer than the average?

I don't actually have an answer for this question. I'm mostly just thinking out loud. Obviously, there shouldn't be an expectation that the team signs all of the guys they pursue, or even most of them. But there has to be a line somewhere. It may be lower than emotion might tell you, but it also may be higher than logic might tell you.

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I don't think a simple metric can be devised. A team should target wisely and then succeed more often than not on their key targets.  Correa is a big fail. Gallo is a big meh.  Vazquez is a medium success.  That's all.

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I for one don't expect them to be a big FA signing club. They simply can't afford that. Other problems the Twins have like weather, location, coaching, all come into a players consideration when signing a FA contract.

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Interesting article.  If it is indeed true that the Twins offered Correa 285 mil over 10 years, then it is safe to assume there is money in the budget to spend at that level.  Then it's totally understandable to question why the Team rarely signs even mid term FA.  I think most of us realize they are not going after upper echelon free agents.  And that's fine.  It's understandable.  But don't criticize fans who dare to question their lack of impactful signings.  You can't have it both ways.  If you aren't going after the top FAs then don't let people on thinking you are really trying.  There are several holes on this roster to fill.  Letting so many FAs sign elsewhere that were within twins budget is irresponsible.  Vazquez seems like a nice signing.  But Gallo?  11 million for a .199 career average and 38% strikeout rate?  That's also irresponsible.

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11 hours ago, Whitey333 said:

Interesting article.  If it is indeed true that the Twins offered Correa 285 mil over 10 years, then it is safe to assume there is money in the budget to spend at that level.  Then it's totally understandable to question why the Team rarely signs even mid term FA.  I think most of us realize they are not going after upper echelon free agents.  And that's fine.  It's understandable.  But don't criticize fans who dare to question their lack of impactful signings.  You can't have it both ways.  If you aren't going after the top FAs then don't let people on thinking you are really trying.  There are several holes on this roster to fill.  Letting so many FAs sign elsewhere that were within twins budget is irresponsible.  Vazquez seems like a nice signing.  But Gallo?  11 million for a .199 career average and 38% strikeout rate?  That's also irresponsible.

I don't question the lack of impact signings but I do question not keeping home grown guys like Berrios.

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10 hours ago, dxpavelka said:

I don't question the lack of impact signings but I do question not keeping home grown guys like Berrios.

I don't think any big name free agents would come here and wonder how many have no trade clauses to the Twins

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On 12/18/2022 at 7:20 AM, Karbo said:

I for one don't expect them to be a big FA signing club. They simply can't afford that. Other problems the Twins have like weather, location, coaching, all come into a players consideration when signing a FA contract.

THEY CAN AFFORD IT!  Big free agents want to go to contending teams with a WS possibility.  Kind of like the chicken and egg.  If they don't acquire good players, they will never win and they keep claiming "small-mid" market and I don't believe that at all.  They may need to go WAY over on their payroll even if they lose money to get this team going.  They have pocketed a ton of money every year.  Maybe not the Mauer, Puckett, Hunter, Morneau years but they were fun.  If the team isn't at least fun to watch with a stable line-up no one is going to want to go to a game.  Add all of this to many not being able to watch on TV makes it even worse. 

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13 minutes ago, John Bonnes said:

Here's what I like about this: you started writing, it kind of led to a dead end, but you saw it through and hit publish. This happens all the time to writers. 

I appreciate it, Bonnes. It’s an idea I’ve been wrestling with for years now, and I know there’s no good answer. I really just wanted to get it down on paper. 

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15 minutes ago, John Bonnes said:

Here's what I like about this: you started writing, it kind of led to a dead end, but you saw it through and hit publish. This happens all the time to writers. 

I know, right?  It even happens to people who aren't writers.

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14 hours ago, MABB1959 said:

I don't think any big name free agents would come here and wonder how many have no trade clauses to the Twins

That's basically what I just said.  The key is you've gotta find a way to keep they guys you grow yourself.  Berrios was the best pitcher we've grown in a generation.  The price Toronto paid to extend him was a price we should have paid in a heartbeat. We've spent a year and a half since looking for a guy who can be him.  Joe Ryan's the only guy even close.

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7 hours ago, dxpavelka said:

That's basically what I just said.  The key is you've gotta find a way to keep they guys you grow yourself.  Berrios was the best pitcher we've grown in a generation.  The price Toronto paid to extend him was a price we should have paid in a heartbeat. We've spent a year and a half since looking for a guy who can be him.  Joe Ryan's the only guy even close.

That was the WORST, now we will spend many years trying to find a pitcher like him and not going to happen.  Some will say he had a bad year and that is a little true, but he played many innings last year to help keep their BP fresh and the Twins need that big time.  I think he will bounce back because his work ethic and determination will get him there.  With him I don't think it was all about money he wants to be on a winning team.  His dream is probably to start game 7 of a WS more than money.  I bet he ran out the door as fast as he could with many remaining Twins wishing it was them. 

It is absolutely HORRIBLE!  First issue is they have a hard time getting anyone here healthy and if they do they trade them usually for more prospects and the vicious circle starts all over.

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