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Joey Gallo- your dads least favorite player


Alex Boxwell

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To say Joey Gallo was bad last year would be like saying a turd isn't particularly tasty... it hardly describes the full truth. He hit .160 with 19 homers and a .638 OPS. Not to mention the 163 punch-outs in 410 plate appearances, that's just shy of a 40% strike-out rate. Absurd. His defense took a step back as well last year but inconsistent playing time can do that to an outfielder in terms of in-game jumps. On the surface, this sign makes little to no sense with the roster in its current state and if you don't believe in Joey Gallo as a player, the fact that he could improve, and if deployed properly that he is a productive player. HOWEVER, I would now like to present to you the Max Kepler situation

I love Max Kepler, as a young player I thought he was a candidate to grow into a player to hit .275-.300, threaten 30 jacks a year and play very good defense. You can't use a scouting report from 2014 to evaluate your talent, you can't think emotionally as a front office. You have to call a spade a spade. Max Kepler has had a combined OPS of .692 over the last two seasons (936 plate appearances) that's below the league average even for last year in a historically terrible year for offense (in '21 league average was .728). OPS is the easiest way to see how good a hitter is, if you want one statistic to rule them all... that is it. Kepler does not lift the ball well and that is fine but it has seriously limited his offensive ceiling and disbanding the shift is not going to be the sole reason to raise his batting average, he flat-out has to play better. The bottom line is he is a player that had an outlier season and has yet to improve in 8 seasons. 

Between Gallo and Kepler if you look at OPS, advantage Gallo. Even with Kepler having a clunker season last year Gallo was not far behind (.638 vs .666). I get Gallo strikes out way more than anyone in the world at the pro level but he could be a great fit. A lineup can only suffer so many Ks before it becomes wildly unproductive and frustrating regardless of OPS or whatever positive statistic they can provide. It's also a one-year deal, if the guy stinks they aren't going to play him there is hardly any risk. The people that say 'Wallner could do what Gallo does', it's a fair point but do you honestly think the scouting department didn't have that conversation? They clearly grade Gallo as a better player at this moment and that's fine. It's one year and Wallner could win the job and Gallo can ride pine all year, we are not married to him in any way shape, or form.

All this being said, with the addition of Gallo I become very hesitant to trade Arraez. With a guy like Gallo, the protection you need in the lineup for him is a player like Arraez. Strikeouts are bad, I hate seeing a guy punch out with less than two outs and a guy on 3rd more than anyone. I truly believe a lineup has a breaking point for how many strikeouts it can take before it becomes unproductive but I'll let some guy who has never played baseball find that statistic. A lineup can still be elite with Joey Gallo in it but other hitters in the lineup need to have some bat-to-ball skill. 

It's a long walk for a short drink of water but I lean towards liking the Gallo signing, we will have to use our personnel properly or he needs to improve dramatically. You will need to scheme your lineup around him, having Gallo hit 9th and Arraez hit leadoff would be how you would have to write it. Gallo and Kepler were both terrible last year, both will likely not be Twins in '24. I think the lineup has more potential with Gallo but if you have potential that just means you haven't done s**t yet. Regardless if your rightfielder is Kepler or Gallo they both need to take a considerable step forward from their recent performance. I think everyone is well within their right to be critical of this signing but you can't honestly say this signing isn't steeped in short-term potential. Sadly, more potential than it would've had with my guy Max Kepler.

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"To say Joey Gallo was bad last year would be like saying a turd isn't particularly tasty... it hardly describes the full truth."

Is this observation from experience?  I always have to ask, when people say things like this.

At least, nobody can accuse you of burying the lede.  In fact I can't remember anything you said after your opening sentence.

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Couldn’t agree more. If he sucks he sits. If he doesn’t, you potentially get 40 jacks and plus defense. One year deal. If they had signed him for 3+ I’d feel much different. And yeah, 2019 was outlier for Kepler in a year the ball was absolute flying out of the yard for everyone. Sad to see it but time to move on from Kepler. I’d love to have see them sign bellinger to a 1 year deal instead of this as well. Same mind set. Dude with huge upside, and if he’d sucked he’d have sat. No big deal.

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6 minutes ago, Nick Hanzlik said:

Couldn’t agree more. If he sucks he sits. If he doesn’t, you potentially get 40 jacks and plus defense. One year deal.

Much will depend on what further moves get made.  If a corner outfielder with many years of team control, such as Wallner, departs in favor of having this one-year wonder who will absolutely move on if he has any success, I really will question the front office's strategery.

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5 hours ago, ashbury said:

"To say Joey Gallo was bad last year would be like saying a turd isn't particularly tasty... it hardly describes the full truth."

Is this observation from experience?  I always have to ask, when people say things like this.

At least, nobody can accuse you of burying the lede.  In fact I can't remember anything you said after your opening sentence.

That line might be the best thing I've ever written, I'm glad it struck a chord with you. Also, if you're going to make me say it... I'd like to announce, in the comments of my blog, no- I do not eat poop. 

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9 hours ago, ashbury said:

"To say Joey Gallo was bad last year would be like saying a turd isn't particularly tasty... it hardly describes the full truth."

Is this observation from experience?  I always have to ask, when people say things like this.

At least, nobody can accuse you of burying the lede.  In fact I can't remember anything you said after your opening sentence.

May all your observations on excretory products be hearsay.

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IMHO this signing just delays the development of the young guys like Larnach, Kiroloff, and Wallner. Spending 11 mil on him seems foolish. I hope I'm wrong and he can self correct because I have very little faith in this coaching staff helping him.

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1 hour ago, John Bonnes said:

Great story. Thank you for sharing it. I truly love the headline. Really solid writing and analysis. 

I also agree that having Arraez follow Gallo is intriguing. Having Gallo bat ninth... not so much. Not sure how to resolve it. But I'd want him up with men on base. 

Who is the "him" you refer to that you would rather have up with men on base? Would you rather have Gallo or Arraez at bat with men on base? I know I did not give you any facts in this scenario, such as no outs, 2 outs, score tied, 3rd inning or ninth inning, etc. I did that on purpose because I could not think of any scenario where I would prefer to have Gallo at bat instead of Arraez. 

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1 hour ago, John Bonnes said:

Great story. Thank you for sharing it. I truly love the headline. Really solid writing and analysis. 

I also agree that having Arraez follow Gallo is intriguing. Having Gallo bat ninth... not so much. Not sure how to resolve it. But I'd want him up with men on base. 

I agree that the headline was wonderful. It surely fits my feelings about Mr. Gallo. And I realize that I am probably one of the oldest posters on TD. 

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1 hour ago, John Bonnes said:

Great story. Thank you for sharing it. I truly love the headline. Really solid writing and analysis. 

I also agree that having Arraez follow Gallo is intriguing. Having Gallo bat ninth... not so much. Not sure how to resolve it. But I'd want him up with men on base. 

I almost don't want Gallo coming up with men on base, because the Ks might start really grating. If no one is on, the BBs are still good, especially with a contact hitter behind him and his astute baserunning (if not real speed). His OPS with RISP is actually lower than with the bases empty, which suggests that pitchers aren't really dancing away from him.

He's a complicated player. The power is undeniable. So are the mountains of Ks.

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On 12/21/2022 at 10:21 AM, tarheeltwinsfan said:

I agree that the headline was wonderful. It surely fits my feelings about Mr. Gallo. And I realize that I am probably one of the oldest posters on TD. 

And Grandfathers REALLY REALLY don't like Gallo!

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You did a fantastic job describing Gallo production lately in your opener. But you did nothing as far as convincing us why signing him was a good thing. Giving Gallo top dollar while everyone else who actually needed a lefty bat was offering him prove it to me money.

Sano is very comparable yet we DFA Sano. Much like Sano, Gallo has dug himself into a deep rut. A rut he can't easily get himself out of. You can try to think that the shift ban will turn himself around. But his biggest problem isn't the shift, it's his SOs. NYY tried to tweak Gallo but made it worse. If we think that we can fix him, how did that work out with Gary Sanchez? You mentioned that Gallo had a little higher OPS last year but Kepler had a higher OBP, .318 to .280.

I've been frustrated with Kepler and have been open to trading him, if the right  deal came along. But if I had a choice of signing Gallo or keeping Kepler, I'd hands down select Kepler. Because IMO the shift ban will help tremendously more Kepler than Gallo. Which will increase significantly Kepler's trade value yet it'd be difficult to flip Gallo with his new price tag.

What scares me most is the idea of FO placing Gallo as a CF sub, that's Cave all over again. To think that is possible because he has played there makes as much sense as Sano playing at SS, just because he has played there. Another key point is that Gallo will limit the playing of our young high up side OF lefty bats.

I don't see any up side. Even if Gallo return to normal and starts to hit HRs, will he hit those HRs be when we need them or will he SO? FO IMO have been trying to control their harmful fetish of hoarding potential big bats. Unfortunately it seems after the failure of signing Correa they suffered a relapse & yielded to their craving & later tried to justify it. You should listen to your fathers, they're wiser than you think.

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