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I'd like to see the Twins shop their international bonus money to the 7 teams still in on the Ohtani bidding.

We are talking Randy Rosario the LHP, right?

I still would have jumped on JDL + Alvarez and a bag of sunflower seeds. I'm trying not to be too harsh on the new FO but it's hard not to be when we fail to sell high on our veteran player when they are at their peek value.

Looks like it's time to call the Rays and see if they have interest in Dozier

The Dodgers just missed the Twins, and wanted to hear their voice.

I assume the Dodgers value Puig more than a AAAA player. I don't think they would just throw him into a deal

I agree, but I think Santana might actually have more trade value at the deadline when teams are desperate to add pitching. I believe his contract is for 2 more years with a team option for a 3rd. That said if someone wants Big Erv right now, I'm willing to listen. I would prefer a young hitter especially if we do deal Dozier for pitching.

Would could be getting close to a deal. Twins Reportedly Asking Teams For Final Offers On Brian Dozier https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/12/brian-dozier-trade-rumors-final-offer-twins.html

I believe DaveW has said he isn't expecting the deal to get done until after the holidays, hoping for the 1st week in January

I'm sticking with my prediction, Dozier for JDL, Alverez, and Chris Anderson.

Ronny Brito is actually a SS.

I predict home town boy RHP Chris Anderson is in the deal as the 3rd or 4th player to come to the Twins. Twins get De Leon, Alverez, Brito, Anderson Dodgers get Dozier

The saying is "for all in tents and porpoises" it's supposed to be used in situations where you are addressing people who are camping and dolphins.

I couldn't agree more! If there is an offer from the Dodgers that contains De Leon and Alverez already on the table the Twins need to take it before it's off the table. I do believe that any Dodgers/Dozier trade needs to include at least 2 of their top pitching prospects De Leon, Alverez, Buehler, Stewart I also like what I'm reading about SS Ronny Brito

Kazmir's contract... 2016: $5 million bonus plus $3 million salary 2017: $8 million 2018: $8 million 2019: $8 million (deferred from 2016), payable on Dec. 15 2020: $8 million (deferred from 2017), payable on Dec. 15 2021: $8 million (deferred from 2018), payable on Dec. 15 He becomes a free agent in 2019. So he's still getting paid for 3 years after his contract to play is up. I don't like that deal as much as McCarthy's

I haven't looked it up but isn't some of Kazmir's money deferred for like 3 years after his contract is up?

I've been wondering if that might be something the Twins/Dodgers might be considering. I know both McCarthy and Kazmir have bigger contracts, that might help the Dodgers debt situation if they can get some money off their books. From my perspective as a Twins fan I would be fine with it, whatever gets us the best haul.

I totally agree about Calhoun. The Twins don't need another DH type that they need to try to find a position for. I hope they learned that lesson last season with Sano. Plus I see Polanco moving over to 2B in Dozier's absence. In JDL and Stewart the Twins get 2 SP who are close to major league ready. Which is something the FO has said it is looking for. I like adding a right handed OF, but would rather add one via free agency or a different trade. It isn't that tall of a task to find a right hand hitting corner OF to use as the short side of a platoon. I'd rather get the best prospects as possible from the Dodgers and figure a short side platoon bat elsewhere. It definitely doesn't have the upside as the trade Dave W posted (JDL, Alverez, + a low level prospect or 2) but JDL and Stewart isn't the worst starting point, as long as more players are adding in place of Calhoun.

Twins fans are saying Dozier for De Leon, Alverez, plus a lower level prospect or 2. Dodgers fans are saying De Leon, Stewart, Calhoun. I am in the group that very much believes a deal between these 2 teams get done. It'll be interesting to see how this all plays out. Seems like the fan bases are pretty far apart. It's looking like 1 fan base might end up a little disappointed. Shout out to Dave W for starting this thread and giving us all a place to vent our offseason trade rumor anxiety!

I just wanted to throw out 5 names NOT on the list that I find interesting, and since our new FO hails from Cleveland and Texas I think there is a chance there is a player from 1 of those organizations that they really like. Cleveland- Nellie Rodriguez 1B, Luis Lugo LHP, Anthony Santander 1B/OF Texas- Jario Beras OF, Pedro Payano RHP

I have to believe that you could find a minor league free agent with good defensive chops that could be as good a choice as any one of these guys. If not, I'd call the Mets. With d'Arnaud, Plewecki on the roster I would see if they would be willing to part with Rene Rivera. A former Twin who has long been known for his glove behind the plate. Also call the Padres, and ask about Austin Hedges. Seems like he's been called one of the best defensive prospects at the catcher position for years. He finally started hitting last year, and the Padres still haven't given him much of a chance in the bigs.

With 4 open spots I would add Romero, Jorge, and Garver. Leaving a spot open to pick a guy in the rule 5 draft. I would also DFA Bosher, as he is likely the 4th best lefty reliever on our 40 man behind Perkins, Rogers, O'Rourke. Then add Palka. Also DFA Centeno, he doesn't really offer much offensively or defensively. Then add Granite. Finally DFA Molitor's favorite, Danny Santana. I do like his versatility but when looking at the long term he isn't anything more than a utility guy who hasn't improved after breaking on the scene his rookie year. Then add Vielma. I think there is a decent chance all 3 player DFA'd go unclaimed and go to Rochester. Any or all of Plouffe, Santiago, Kintzler could be non tendered to open up spots for free agents, and open up to an estimated $18+ million. To me that's enough payroll to sign a catcher, infield depth, and a reliever. If they sign another lefty reliever I could see a guy like O'Rourke being DFA'd to open another roster spot.

Castro would be my #1 target by a large margin. Avila does not excite me since he seems to be injured a lot of the time. Butera would be my 2nd choice, I know he doesn't hit much but I'm looking for defense and someone who can help tutor Murphy and Garver. I don't know much about the minor league free agent catchers but that would be my fall back option.

I think there is a better chance of the Twins getting Aaron Sanchez from Toronto for Dozier. Heck I'd even throw in Ervin Santana to help Toronto fill the rotation if they are willing to chip in some prospects in the deal.

I like the idea of adding a veteran OF, but I don't think Reddick is the best fit for the Twins. With Kepler and Rosario showing struggles against LHP I don't see the point in signing another left handed OF who can't hit LHP