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Lol ... this time of year, you can find that quite a few places

I guess Roxy was the tipping point to getting this done ...

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Miranda is also (probably) a utility infielder, like Arraez. While he played at 3rd a bit more than other positions last year, he also played quite a bit at 2nd, and some at 1st with a sprinkling of SS and LF. Even Miranda himself has said 2nd base is the position he likes best. So, yes, he is the duplicate of Arraez. A different kind of hitter, but no real position. He is nowhere near a replacement for Donaldson's defense at 3rd.

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Haven’t we already learned something that it’s not already a done deal?

That’s an interesting list, of course it’s too early to know for sure beyond the 2-3 that you could say right now are ‘for sures.’ You could also have titled this ‘10 to watch in the 2022 season.’

tomato, tomato ... let's call the whole thing off

You said Dodgers, he said Angels ...

Winder pitched over 100 innings his first 2 yrs in the Twins system, and you don't think that's a huge difference, where Ober had never gone over 80? While I think they will limit Winder, especially early in the season, I expect he can/will handle more than Ober did this past season. As I said, we are one more year removed from the lost MiL season, pitchers should do more this year. I get the caution that was used in this past season because they didn't pitch at all in 2020, but this will be 2022 ... Winder already had way more innings under his belt than Ober. And, if he hadn't been shut down this past season, he may have made it up to the Majors already. I think there is a huge difference, here.

Why should they be on the same inning count as Ober? While they are likely to be careful, we are a year removed from MiL pitchers not pitching, like Ober was last year, not to mention the numbers of IP was significantly lower

What trades do you want to see? And don't say Donaldson ... If Winder hadn't been shut down last year, we would have seen him, imo. I think he has a better chance to make the opening day lineup than Miranda. But ... it all depends ...

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This wasn't about being on the opening day roster, because I don't think any of them will. Miranda, maybe, but only if they trade Arraez, imo. One of the pitchers could, but maybe in the bp. But which will be the first to appear with the Twins. I think the pitchers have a better chance of that, tbh, unless, as I said, they trade Arraez and Miranda will slot into his role

Of the 6, I really think this is a 'competition' between three (Sands, Winder and Miranda), but I'm putting them all in. Most will likely say Miranda, but that could depend on a lot of things, because where he plays plays, I'm not sure there's room right now. Someone would need to be traded or someone would have to get injured, and I don't want to predict that. With pitching being our greatest need (imo), there could be more opportunities for a pitcher to get the first call, or even head north with the team. What are your thoughts?

Back to the topic question ... It's not an easy question to answer, because I want to see who that $20million is spent on. If it's an impact pitcher or position player, then yes, absolutely would rather have that. But if it is Martin and W-R along with a couple of Happs or Shoemakers? Then no. I want to see the plan laid out before I can say this was worth it, even though I think trading Berrios was the right thing to do, especially now since it looks like he truly didn't want to sign with MN. If to replace Berrios, they find an equivalence, absolutely. Sorry if that's too much of a 'they won't spend it answer' ... but really it's a 'depends on who they spend it on' answer.

Dare I say same for Chicago?

Yikes!

While I don't like the stadium itself, I think the ivy at Wrigley is pretty cool ... although from a player perspective, it's not a soft landing with a brick wall behind it and critters in the ivy ... but it looks pretty cool. And I love the iconic scoreboard. But, as I said, I do not enjoy going to games there.

According to Seth, it is not a guaranteed contract and he could still be cut

That wasn’t your comment, though, and it didn’t relate at all to Seth’s article on who was/wasn’t added this year.

Okay. That is what I was looking for. Thank you for elaborating

To quote Seth ... Do you have something to say about who was added? Or not added who are Rule 5 eligible?

I'm sorry, but this has absolutely nothing to do with the posted article. The article is about which minor leaguers were added to the 40-man