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This is not a thread about WaPo, nor a thread about politics, NONE of what you generalized and opined about is part of the article I posted. Comment on the article itself and the ideas it generates, or don’t comment. You don’t have to like WaPo to get something out of one baseball article. The writer wasn’t making a comment on capitalism, so don’t go there, he was making a comment on when the love of the game meets the business side of the game. Baseball’s fan base continues to erode. Promote your ideas on changing that. That’s what I was asking.

I always approach the games with a ‘Hope for the best, prepare for the worst’ attitude. ‘19 and ‘21 made me hopeful, but pitching made me prepare for the worst. So, I was in the sort of category.

It’s a ‘thought piece’ but I thought it was a good read. https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/03/04/baseball-lockout-1994-strike/ “The erosion of baseball’s audience and its diminished status as the former national pastime don’t make it near extinction. Such a breathless assertion is preposterous because there’s still a robust fan base. But the question that makes the situation seem dire is about cultivation. How does baseball — which currently has some of the most impressive young talent in its history — nurture loyalists into the future?” If you were in charge of PR-Marketing of baseball, post-lockout, what are the things you would do or suggest ownership do, to bring back fans? One thing I’d do is to quit regionalizing it so much, eliminate blackouts and allow people to watch whatever, whenever, wherever. Another is I’d create some national campaigns around the best and brightest and most entertaining players. It’s not just about winning, although that is highly important, it’s also about the players. Get people interested in the sport again by following a ‘favorite’. I’d also work to sponsor youth baseball in communities, and send players out to work with kids. Some players already do this, but I’d make it a MLB project, too. What would be some of your ideas to freshen the fan base?

They Key West Express … I’ve never taken it but know others who have

That’s not how it works. Not every offer goes for a vote. The elected committee only brings what they deem to be something that is close or something they feel is acceptable, that the membership agreed on ahead of time. Same could be said the other way around. All owners aren’t in the room, either. They don’t bring everything to the owners for a vote, either. What might pass if they did? Each sides’ committee goes in there with specific ideas what they want, based on lots of polling and questioning their memberships, and the two committees hash it out and only bring it to the rest of them when they feel there is something to vote on. The process would get really bogged down if every offer was voted on. But I’m sure the negotiating committees on both sides are keeping their respective memberships updated

Did he blow it up? I thought we had heard from various baseball reporters that the buzz ‘they were close’ was not true, and was something the owners leaked? That said, I don’t like Boras and wonder because of the connections there. That said, smoke doesn’t always indicate there’s fire. I don’t think we’ll ever know the truth. Not sure I would handle it well if I did.

Koreshan State Park is interesting, the historic settlement. Kayaking from just about anywhere is fun, as long as it’s not overly windy. Sanibal Thriller, or something similar, for dolphin fun. Check out downtown Fort Myers for its shops and eateries. Lakes Park with kids is fun … the water area, train, and/or get a surrey bike and ride the easy trails And if going to Sun Harvest for ice cream … the key lime-chocolate twist is the only flavor to get. Or if it’s ice cream you want … Love Boat Take a boat cruise to Key West

This would be the best thing ever, however, the owners wouldn’t do that, of course. Rosenthal is a very knowledgeable baseball person and not a union busting lawyer who doesn’t care about the sport

Well, and as we have learned … they weren’t close but were posturing, so of course they aren’t lifting the lockout

They could. That would really be a good faith move if they did. Since I’m in Fort Myers now, I wish they would.

Hope the lockout ends today … I’ll head to ballpark tomorrow

Yep. The time to have traded him was 2019. We won’t get much for him and he would have to go in a package if we want a good return

Yep. Typical of ‘management’ to not care about the game, at all. Players should definitely take concessions off the table.

So in other words, you don’t think the Twins should ever go big on a FA or trade? ?

On my way! ?⚾️?☀️?

My Mom and I drove around there a couple years ago. It used to be a really huge ranch, actual ranch, and now they have developed it into its own planned community with different neighborhoods. It's definitely worth a look around.

I'm not sure the specifics, but as Seth said above they start around 9:30. I think if you got there around then you can wander around. Not sure if they will be playing any actual games yet, but usually someone who is around knows. And welcome to TD

I'll be heading down soon ... will try to get to the ballpark at some point, but have several tennis games lined up that take precedence

The lockout won’t affect the minor league season except that anyone on the 40-man won’t be able to participate, so some of our top prospects won’t be playing. But everyone else should be

Miranda himself said he prefers playing 2nd

@TwinsDr2021 and @Mike Sixel, this is a discussion about Miranda, not a general discussion about the team’s spending. Relate it directly to Miranda and how you hope he fits into the team’s plans or start your own thread about spending.

They would have to keep adding to the base, but 100 years from now that could make it too tall to fit anywhere. They may have to fashion a new one, so whoever wins, parades around with two cups, the one they can add names to and the original

I guess I should ask … the grounds are fully open this year, yes? Hopefully they are not charging for parking to wander and check out the minor leaguers? And what time do they usually get started?

Looking forward to checking things out when I’m there visiting my Mom

We are getting a bit far off the discussion of the negotiations, but I don't think the Berrios trade was made to save money. Nor was not signing Eddie. It's more complex than that.