one_eyed_jack

Well, now it's all about Luis getting a batting title, and some young guys getting a chance to prove they belong. This season should leave a very bad taste in everyone's mouth, hopefully a bunch of them come back in 2023 full of piss and vinegar, ready to do battle.

When that's the lineup you have to roll with in a must-win game, well, it's pretty difficult to be optimistic. We've endured some bad Twins seasons. Some were disappointing, Others were downright depressing. But I don't think I've ever seen a season this frustrating. This is a very weak and very winnable division. This Cleveland team is not exactly the '27 Yankees. The flaws in how this team was constructed notwithstanding, there's enough talent there that a postseason appearance should have been a layup. But thanks to what seemed like a never-ending stream of bad moves, bad decisions and bad luck, the Twins are going to finish 3rd.

Well, that sucked. But not unexpected when you’re running out a lineup half-filled with fringe major leaguers every night. Should be an interesting off-season.

Now do runs scored,

Feels like a similar case for Jason Kendall. When you look closely, his case is stronger than you would have expected, but still well short of any reasonable Cooperstown standard. And probably the same result as Kendall, one-and-done. I lean more “big hall” but I am not interested in lowering the bar to the point where every above-average player who hung around for a while gets in.

Hate to see it. The injury history notwithstanding, you find a way to keep a player whose ceiling is that high. They don’t come around often. Not doing so feels like playing not to lose instead of playing to win. Maybe the problems was not so much with the Twins’ offer but with the Twins a what Byron really wants is a fresh start elsewhere? Either way, I fear we are going to have to endure the excruciating experience of watching him become a hall-of-famer in another uniform.

I think it also came from the fact that the Twins would get hits but end up stranding a lot of guys on base. Their opponents who had power hitters didn't have that problem. Take for example the 2009 ALDS. The Twins outhit the Yankees 29-23 in that series but were outscored by the Yankees 15-6 thanks largely to the fact that the Yankees outhomered the Twins 6-0. So it was all "you can't beat the Yankees with small ball, you need to have guys who can hit the ball over the fence to match their power." Which wasn't wrong, but it's odd to see the "you can't rely on home run hitters to score runs in postseason" takes being advanced by the same people now. But in any case, like you said, it's been the same basic story of the Twins unable to score runs both now and then. Although I find these last 2 years, particularly this year, infinitely more frustrating due to the degree that the lineup underperformed. Just a lot of really, really bad at-bats from guys who can and should do better. I think Twins hitters not named Nelson Cruz were 5-for-53 this series? That's just wretched.

One thing I've found mildly amusing in the aftermath of this latest playoff debacle is the local media folks and their "you can't win with Bomba-ball in the postseason, you need to be able to scratch out runs" hot takes. Same people who 10-15 years ago were writing "you can't win with Piranha-ball in the postseason, you need power hitters who can hit the long ball".

I honestly have no idea what the answer is. It's so maddening. In the wake of a lot of the playoff losses to the Yankees, you could at least recognize that they were a more talented, deeper and more experienced team. Their starting pitching was far better. (When you're countering Sabathias and Pettites with Blackburns and Duensings, you shouldn't be surprised when it doesn't go your way). But I don't know how to explain what we've seen the last 2 years. So many guys up and down the lineup who were consistently good for the regular season looking completely overmatched and clueless against middling pitchers in the postseason. I'm not really interested in a rebuild, I don't want another early 2010's string of 100-loss seasons. As much as this playoff loss hurts, I'll take it over having your season effectively over by Father's Day. So I guess I'd tend to keep this core together for another shot at it. But if they don't take a step forward (i.e. make the playoffs and win a round) next year, then I believe it would be time to look at bigger changes.

Maddening. Excruciating. Soul crushing. I am running out of adjectives to describe what it’s like to watch this team excel in the regular season then defecate all over themselves in the postseason. I don’t know what the answer is. Horrible at-bats by quality hitters. Bad base running. Untimely errors. Dubious managerial moves. Just a complete meltdown.

There were a few dubious decisions to be sure but this series was so one-sided that it's hard to imagine a different outcome had different decisions been made. It was such a frustrating series, made even more so by the fact that every other DS is competitive - we're the only team that got so easily sent home. I'm so sick of the condescending pats on the head, the "plucky midwestern overachievers who get routinely stomped by the big bad bullies from the Bronx" narrative. Open the vaults, get a couple of shutdown starters and lockdown bullpen guys and flip the effing script. I don't want to hear about how proud you are of your regular season. I want to hear about how you're not satisfied with being playoff punching bags.

This one really stings. It reminds me of the 2006 season - a team that was a ton of fun to watch and exceeded everyone's expectations - entered the playoffs with a roar and exited in 3 games with a whimper, though that time to Oakland. To me, what makes these series with the Yankees so maddening is that not only are they the better team, but every break, every call and every bounce seems to go their way when we play them in the postseason, and the Twins don't help themselves with their habit of self-inflicted injuries. (Cave, what in God's name were you thinking diving for that ball.) And I can't stand hearing about how brilliant the Yankee pitching was. Yeah, they were good, but a lot of it was just bad at-bats by the Twins. Flailing away at garbage way out of the zone, fouling off destroyable pitches, we made their 3 serviceable starters look like Maddux/Glavine/Smoltz 2.0. Rosario, Arraez and Polanco were the only 3 guys that didn't consistently look clueless and helpless at the plate. Garver, Sano and Kepler were particularly disappointing. Oh well, hopefully this is an experience that they learn from, and they come back hungry in the spring. And we spend some money on pitching - we just don't have the arms to compete in October right now.

This has been beyond infuriating, watching our hitters flail against these guys after the season we had. Severino is a hittable pitcher. Odo has done a great job. Offense and defense both let him down.

Yeah I don't see us beating the Yankees 2-1 or 3-2. I think they key will be jumping on Severino to build a healthy lead and let Odo relax a bit while forcing the Yankees to go to their pen early. A close game in the late innings does not favor us.

I didn't expect the Twins to win over 100 games and break the home run record. I had more fun watching Twins baseball this year than I have in years. But man, another loss tomorrow, particularly if it's another loss of the non-competitive variety, and it will be hard to look back on it positively. At least initially, when it's still raw and emotions are running high. I'm sure I'll feel differently as the off-season progresses and the conversation shifts to talking about 2020. I agree that a win tomorrow would be huge, even if that's all we win. I just don't see beating the Yankees 3 straight. But for the love of God, rise up and win one effing game. Give the home fans something to cheer about. End the historic postseason losing streak so we don't have that hanging over us next time we play October baseball. And show the world we at least belong on the same field as the Yankees, cuz we sure didn't look like it this weekend. Severino is a beatable pitcher. Odo is capable of throwing a good game. Get it done.