Battle ur tail off

Elephant in the room. Twins reluctance to draft arms with their first round picks and when they do, failure or bad luck in developing them. If you truly want to develop top of the rotation arms, once in awhile you have to take a chance at drafting them with your 1st round picks.

It is substantial, but they targeted the wrong guys. The play here was the pry top of the rotation pitching potential away from them if you are trading the AL batting champ. Even if we'd have had to add, getting Luzardo, Cabrera or one of their top pitching prospects was the way. Instead we get a #3 starter and another top infield prospect. One or the other. Get Luzardo or Cabrea. Or take Lopez but insist on pitching a pitching prospect as well.

Don't like it. Why couldn't they pry Lopez and/or one of their other pitchers. I feel like they wasted one of our better chips here for more mediocre pitching and middle infield logjam help. Who knows what else it would have taken, but I think the chance here was a add top of the rotation help, and they didn't. Luzardo, Cabrera or one of their better pitching prospects. Dang!

I would prefer if Aaraez is moved, it is for the higher upside guys. I'm glad they turned down a 1 for 1 swap for Lopez. If we have a shot at either or both of Cabrera or Luzardo, then I am fine with giving him + ALMOST whatever it takes, up.(No Lewis or Miranda)

If they wanted Kepler for Lopez, it would be a done deal already. My guess is they are asking about Miranda. To them I say the only way you get him is in a package for your Cy Young winner. Might be time to explore other avenues if they are coming back acting like Aaraez for Lopez straight up isn't enough.

I'm fine with keeping him. I also am fine with trading him. I see his value as a lottery pick type prospect at this point. Possibly packaged with one in our top 10 prospect list for a #3-4 type starter. Maybe the play is to keep him until the trade deadline. With our outfield problems last year, I don't want to be running out AAAA guys again. See where we are weak with injuries etc. and maybe he can rebuild some of his value the first half of the season anyway.

So then, this looks like it truly a DONE DEAL then? Yeah! This deal and the Buxton one couldn't be better for the Twins if these guys can both stay healthy.

Yes, and shows they are all in with he and Buxton, Miranda, and the young pitchers as our core. Now was as good a time as any with all these young guys filling the roster for cheap. Let's hope that pitching staff can develop or they go out at some point in the next 1-3 years and add that top of the rotation stud.

Wow! Any chance his physical holds it up with us also? "Pending physical".

Holy ****, they did it and on a great deal. This is perfect, have him until he is 34. We get his prime years

Bullpen help is what I want, whether it is one of Fulmer/Chafin or a trade for someone that is an actual impact reliever, they need upgrades to the pen IMO. Other than that, nothing on that list.

I think it would be a mistake to move Miranda. He is young and looks like he can be an impact hitter. A stud if you will. His defense is mediocre, but I think moving a guy like this when you don't seriously hope to contend for a bit isn't smart. You will also have a chance to move him later if you think Lee or Lewis takes over 3rd and/or SS. The only way I want Miranda moved for the Marlins starters would be if they will give up their Cy Young winner. Then do whatever is necessary.

Yes, maybe. I just feel like he will be all but worthless those last 5 years. Maybe 5/200 would be better. My point is we have alot of young cheap guys right now, so spend it while we can. Later in that contract, maybe we will be giving that extra money to Lewis.?

I don't think it works that way. Boras, IS the market maker. He controls all the best free agents, so teams literally have to come to him. He has more power than any team does. I HATE the guy and think he is bad for the game and ruining it, but I don't think this statement is anything other than NY media making it seem like they are super important or giving their fans more hope.

5/225. No opt outs, no protections for the Twins if he's injured. Offer it and see if he bites. Maybe this type of deal has already been discussed with the Mets. But it sure is looking like Carlos is either going to have to accept a deal like this, or something like the deal he had in place with all kinds of protections, etc against his injury.