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I hope Harper, and Gibson do not make the playoff roster, anybody but those two guys, and honestly, Perez isn't much more of a lock either, his 2ns half performance has been right down poor, so we truly are a 2 man starting situation, that is so scary, when the Astor's carry 3 #1's in Verlander (another 20 win season wow) Cole is insanely good and Greinke, we don't have one single pure #1 have to fix this issue and the overall pitching roster has to be blown up and totally reubilt after playoff defeat.

most of this is on Gibson himself to ask to be taken off the roster now! He is very medically ill, and this has totally controlled his entire being along with not allowing him to be a average pitcher for the club. So, if Gibson doesn't tell the Twins to take him off the everyday roster so he can focus on his health, the Twins need to tell him after last nights debacle that he is being removed from the playing roster, and of course as well as not being on the playoff roster either. as far as next season, yes, I think he would be ok as a #4=5 starter, but how did that work out again for us thinking the exact same thing with Perez??? Perez was solid early in the season, but when the weather as well as the hitters heated up, Perez also has really struggled to be considered a option for brining back for next season. Gibson, No for next year, time to move on, Perez, I like him but just not enough to hold down a everyday pitching roster spot, I'd prefer to have the Littel's, Thorpe, Smeltzer, etc, play for youth, and that gives at least some future options, with Gibson and Perez, we already know both of these guys issues and for sure there struggles when the season is warming up and these arms are expected to at least make it through the 5th inning without putting his team behind early.

I thought not pursuing and making a push for Marcus Stroman when he was availbe from the Jay's, was stupid on our part not to make that trade happen? he would have been a good fit here, wouldn't have broken the bank with a trade using a couple highly rated minor league players included in the deal. missing Stroman was nuts??? now were back to who???? do we not pay stupid money to sign with us?

the key in my opinion is to get the owner to get off his tight wad bank acct.. and connect 100% with Falvey & Lavine, and go out this winter/spring, and put together a pitching roster that can compare or even compete with the current 2019 offensive roster. If this had been done over last off season, and even during and before the Aug 1st deadline, this club would have the pitching power that is needed to make this club a truly competitive team come Oct playoff time. Because, either the Yankmee;s with there power laden lineup, and suspect pitching, or even tougher, the Astro's with there "sick" starting 3 roation of Verlander-Cole-Grienke= is insane tough, plus the Astro's also have a super solid offensive roster pair with there finest starting pitching roation. so, fix the pitching roster big time, get Buxton healthy, pray that the playoffs won't be a blur and one and done again???

trying to compete with just a bunch of kids out of the minors???? FO really is responsible for this kind of loss. Plus, I sure would have reather seen Mike pitch as deep as he could, he was dealing big time, get him into the 8th, and then let Duffey close it out. screw Romo, 36 and past his time he's lke Morin, McGill, Harper && Mejia, toast

really solid input/update jokin! Telis would be a interesting update for Castro for sure, especially if he does continue to tear the cover off of AA A pitching. younger, way more offense, plus if he is solid defensively, win win opotion

am I the only die hard Twins fan that has serious concerns over pretty much the entire current Twins starting pitching roster??? other than rehab Pineda who has truly done a good job recoving and pitching quite well, but other than him, the entire Twins starting roation the past 4-6 weeks has really struggled, and there a major concern in my opinion only? Again today, Jake continues with a attitude that is also some what concering, he did not pitch very well at all, and his statments post game like all of his past poor outings, is simply, no big deal, that' show baseball is, you don't allways pitch well and get all the breaks??? what the heck is he talking about, he is uncorking wild pitches like it's no big deal, it's almost identical too polanco and his horrrible defense efforts since the all star break. they behave and act like so what, it's a long season, I get that faat, but appears as if, since they are paid with for sure money, good bad or horrible, so what, win some lose some? just not very positive and in my opinion again only, I would rather see Jake totally PO;'d and mad as hades about his past outing, oh well, at this rate, the Twins will end up not even making the wild card, and the entire awesome year on the offense side will be for nothing, number, records big deal, blowing the lead we had and doing squat about it, before the season started, during the season, before the ?Aug 1st deadline, just sit on our butts and dream that this current starting rotation is good enough to get us to the games that matter???? not sure that's going to happen, not with this weak rotation. we will see, I think we have what, 6 more games against the Tribe, that will probably be the winner takes it all home?

I'm really surprised how the big man Michael Pineda has recovered from almost what, 1 1/2 years from major arm surgery, and has really pitched very well since I think some time in May? It's been a huge difference from the other starters who have really struggled especially since the all star break. with out Pineda coming off his last IL stinit, and again doing really descent again this evening, he got into the 7th I think, which is really what we hope and need from all the Twins starters, now if Jake can put toghether a gem tomorrow afternoon, to get us ready for the mid week match up with the Tigers, let's get er done Jake, spin us win tomorrow, let the Twins get out front with the lead early, and get into the 6-7th innng and hope the combo of Dyson-=Romo-May-& Rogers can continue to close the games out for a much needed win.

it's a easy formula for losing? poor starting pitching at best. error's every where almost every game, and relief staff that simply takes turns losing games that we can ill afford to lose. bingo Since June 2nd, this team is poor, at almost all things other than having a offensive line up that never gives up, but does not have the Karma for walk off wins, again today, 3 walks, a hitter you want in that situation, Cron, routine fly out, formula for missing the playoffs at this steady rate. watched the entire game on You Tube, wanting to believe that the pitching would not fail us again??? the minute Romo's pitch left his hand, I said, Flat, nothing on the pitch, say bye bye, a no doubter on both the horrible placement by Romo, and the kid simply hit a pitch that had home run written on it before it left his hand. Power being wasted on a daily basis. wonder how long the offense can keep the horrible pitching close to the Tribe, why did Dyson only get to fact the 3 outs/ just got back, looked oK, and done,

1 simple question:? what did we sign Romo for if were not going to call on him to close some of these huge games? like again in todays brutal loss. Rodgers has also been struggling big time the past 2 weeks, so, in todays game, wouldn't Romo been a better choice to come in and give the Twins a different look against the hot hitting tribe as a closer or at least to allow a shot at getting the Tribe out in the top of the 10th, and maybe making the final walk off in our bottom of the 10th? dang man, too many key decision making plays that have really come back to kill the team. Not using Garver behind the plate in the Gibson start, stat's numbers show Garver has Gibson pitching considerably better than when Castro is catching, don't get it, supposed to be a stat & numbers mgr, yet doesn't go with the numbers that state, Garver is the best option when Gibson is on the mound. same with not starting Cron in game #1? great defensive 1st baseman, and had 19 hr's and 58 rbi's and Cron's on the bench?? why

was not feeling well, laying down fighting the aml pain, woke up with the Twins down 3-2, took a shower, saw we had come back to tie, but did not see the dumb decision by the 3rd base coach? we tied and Adrianza appeared to be out by a country mile?? what in the world is the 3rd base coach thinking? he had to be viewing the near perfect1 bounce double off the wall and a near perfect fielding job by the LF, hit the relay man spot on, and then, out by a huge distance, wasn't there only 1 out at the time Gonzalez hit the double off the LF wall, so if Adrianza had been held at third, it's still 3-3? and we have bases loaded and only 1 out, is that correct??

Plus, in total agreement that it's proving out that over all, this entire pitching staff is truly not very good at all. The early splash with huge success with both Perez and Jake, have totally flipped to the not so good quickly, and Berrios is for sure been the most consistent, but he too, when he's a little off, he truly struggles no matter who he faces. still he is only what, 25 years old, I think I lot of it is between his ears, and time and experience will be the only teacher to get him to be the possible stud he is physically capable of, if he don't get his mind right, he could struggle for a long time coming, hope not, but we all have seen it happen before.

Amen, spot on input 3balls, May, amazilgly pitched 1 total pitch, ended up getting the dang win? what?? and just as 3 balls stated matter a factly above, May threw one pitch, had not pitched for a quite a while, rested to say the least, there was nothing but another rookie mgr mistake. Leave the vet arm in, if he flops, fine, try who ever, but pulling May after 1 pitch to end the 7th inning. same with the 1st insert of Dyson, totally stupid on Roco's part, the man flew 12 fricking hrs. talk about serious jet lag, big time. Dyson should have been held back until this weekend, give him time to settle in, where that is being he just arrived in Minny on Thursday I believe. but, concern over Dyson, heck yes, if he was so good at san Fran, what's the deal, simple tired and not sure where he or his head is at. totally justified.

ALCS: Astro's Starting Rotation: Verlander-Greinke-Cole Twins Starting Rotation: Berrios- ?-? not good, not good at all. it's not easy being a life time Twins fan, since the TK Tom Kelly ear, it's been slim pickin's big time hard to think Big when the Twins FO always plays the Cheap Retread Route, it is what it is, like we expected anything different from a Pohlad ownership.

Just saying: Twins needed a top quality starter, to combine with Berrios? what did the FO do?? Zero??> Secondly, the Twins starting pitchers can not compete with the Astro's durng a plalyoff matchup, the Twins do nothing, and the Astro's go all in and pick up Zach Greinke< Astor's big Winner! Twins yup did nothing at all Again. we will all see, if the Twins luck out and make the playoff's they will have to more than likely have to go through the dreaded Yankmee's, or worse, the Astor's and I"m not a betting person, yet, the Astro's on paper look insanely powerful. some things simply do not change, and spending money in Minnesota is not one of them when you discuss pro baseball in Minny it's like a one on one race on a short track, the Twins own a Corvette, and the Astor's have a Maseratti which vehicle win's,

Total Joke! the ownership and front office won't do Jack! other than Jack Morris, under TK Tom Kelly this ownership and front offfice always want to fix as deep bullet wound with a damn band aid. I'm done kidding myself that this Minnesota franchise is any different than the Wolves, joke, the vikings, going to be another ugly season with Cousin's, already have Hll with 8 games out due to being a DA dumb a--!~ so leaving Jake in to get hammered for 10 hits, 9 earned runs is OK< wtf man, I"m over this cluster cuss front office and ownership garbage, I"m to old and too ill to sit and worry and think for one minute that a Minnesota franchise would come into a season with nothing not put on the table to be a winner?? other than the 2 awesome years under TK, with 2 world titles, the Vikngs, the Wild, the wolves, ya the women NBA were awesome for several years, great job ladies, but men wise, pure pathetic exucse and a total joke. This roster is going to hit 300 plus single home runs, but can't hit a lick with the bases loaded, it's all between the ears, and the lack of a true leader, a capt. that can step up and lead this powerful hitting lineup, so sad and so sick and tired of having half a damn team, same with the Vikings, kick butt D, and s--t for braiins Cousin's unable to win diddly squat when it really counts, this current Twins team can easily miss the playoffs, why? same reason as the reason when the season started? dog crap pitching, from starters, to middle to No closer, for how many years now. who was the Twins last true closer, Joe Nathan I'm thinking, how long ago was that??? I'm so sick and tired of listening to Roco praisee this team, and especially after last nightsw nightmare loss??? Why as the mgr isn't Roco screaming at the owners and front office cussing them out with, you have to bring in some top tier starters, middle and closer to give me a damn shot a making the playoffs at best??? instead, oh boy, these guys really fight back, don't they, ya, Roco they do, so one question Mr. Mgr, how about those pitchers??? tonight, 8-2 lead, and we can not hold a lead no matter who you parade out there? and now, they have dropped another retread worn out used tire pitcher today? how many now have been dropped from the Twins roster? what does that tell us< not one of them would have made another MLB teams roster, none, not one? yet, we paid millions of $$'s to watch them suck, game after game, loss after loss, I'm, not able to get in my Native pedal drive kayak and get out into the back waters to fish and clear my mind from watchng this once awesome Twins team turn into just another half team, great offensive cllub, with zero pithing, name one twins starter that would be a true #1 pitcher for the Astro's??? correct none of them, the kid Jose Berrios is the best of the group, and lately, he hasn't been good either, rehab Pineda, worthless Gibson, what bust he is turnng out to be, pay him big bucks to suck, great. Play off's what play off's???

spot on post Mr. Ted S! Spot on, the Twins issues are not anything new, the starting pitchers were good early on when the weather was cold and the opposition was lower! but, any true Twins fans' knew that once the hot weather set in, the hitters are picking up the pitches better, and the hot weather brings the wear and tear on the starters. the true issue, Is and Has been day one for the `19 season, the old retreads in the Twins pitching roster are simply Old, Worn Out, Not good to begin with, and basically can't get anybody out that is a quality hitter, and last night was a complete Joke, in regards to the pathetic excuse of pitchers and there sad and pitiful jobs they All did last night. Just think for one minute, if Taylor Rogers, was used as he should be, a 7-8th inning guy, 2 innings max, rested, and then we had a True #1 Closer, the Twins were up 8-2 on the dang Yankmee's and not one Twins middle relief pitcher was good enough to close the door, in any one inning, and inning after inning after inning, Roco brings in another "flat tire" dud arm, and our new lead is gone, sickening too me, it's just not OK and acceptable to think for one second that these Kids in our minor league farm system are capable of coming up to the Bigs, and be able to handle the power teams hitters, it isn't going to happen, yet, all of these recent loses, have been the cause and reason for The Indian's to cut into what was once a ``11 game lead, 11? now, with a series coming up the Cleveland, they sweep the Twins, and were back looking up in 2nd place, no excuses on the front office, the Twins had leads in 4 games since the All Star break, and Mejia, 1 loss, May 2 ugly loses, and Rogers, now 2 bad outing, so 5 loses that we had the lead, and not one twins pitcher was good enough to simply Stop the opponent. yet, here we all are, 1 week from decision day, and a game against the Yankmee's tonight, and we still don't have a middle relief stud, and for sure no #1 starter, and totally suck at having no closer?????? it was this same issues day 1 of the new season, and the ownership and front office are Still sitting on there arse's doing -nothing?? there counting all the millions of $$$ dollars,, and crying over what player were sacrificing and How many dollars does a starting pitcher cost? total DA dumb asses, they could have gotten any high tier starter or closer for way less money on June 15, when the Twins were leading with a 11 game lead in the Div. waiting is costing $$ every day they didn't do there job,

I hope we can get healthy fast, and I hope the starting pitching can find it's groove again, because our starters have not been anything close to what they were in the fist 2 months. and if the club can't find the clutch hitting again, this team will fold like a cub scout tent on the lake with a 76mph winds ripping it down. the middle relief roster is down right bad

what is the issue with Martin Perez?? the early season success has quickly evaporated away. I don't get to view the Twins games here in NE Florida, so I'm only able to see what the local Minn fans are sawing about Perez and his inability to stay away from one or two ugly innings. Plus, the errors, and walks by our pitchers, along with wild pitches? we saw a clean performance by the Twins for months, now it's showing a leak in the damn, and the middle relief is bad, not OK, really bad. Morin, again today inning and a third, 3 runs, and I believe all 3 were unearned due Twins errors,

whats the simple explantion of Insantity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting things to actually become Different????? we have a new pair of young front office people, GM & Player Personnel and what are we gong to do, of course we are, we are going to continue doing the same thing over and over again, and next year at this time, when it's ugly once again, oh crap, maybe the Twins should have done like the owners and front office of the now fastest most improved team in the MLB, the Astros, who's the Astro's current mgr,???? nobldy knows this young man, A J Hinch, new life new blood new direction results, 2=0 already pounding the Red Sox,

oh ya, I've already got spanked by the house mom's on this site, for saying the truth about the current Twins, so, here it is, once again, Minnesota goes to NY, playoff's, and we come up with the same old results, take the lead early, Santanta is Not a #1 starter, not now, not ever, a 3=0 lead disappears in one inning, and once again, we go home with our Minnesota tails between our legs, just another 1-and-Done, it's just what the Twins do when it comes to the Yankees, cost Gardenhire his job, Molitor will be gone soon, until they bring in a mgr. that can actually control and run this franchise the way it needs to be run, ie; Joe Maddon, we will continue to be just what we are, 2nd fiddle to NY/ . Look at the current Houston Astros; and there no name mgr. they rebuilt that entire franchise in less time than it took for the Twins to be anything less than losing 100 games in a season. Mediocrity.

with all the young talented pitchers in the current Twins farm system, why and the he-- do the Twins go out and sign and pay way too much $$ money for Bartolo wheel barrel Colon, can't hit, and run, his one large glob of waste IMOI: I'd always rather see a young fresh strong minor leagure arm be given the chance to pitch n the bigs trying to finally make the WC plah off picture, but No, Colon, horrible Pressley, brutal Boshers, really, give the future and lose good with that, keep spending millions on old retreads like Gee, cut Pressley, let Boshers go bacik to the Bayou

Well; once again; Berrios looks like he is totally Gased??? what does Molitor and his dummy pitching coach do? yup, bring in the turds of the staff Dillion Fing Gee, what a total retread; Boshers, really this guy is brutal, and of course, we still get to watch none other than Elvis Ryan Pressley, no matter what, we can always count on this clown too give up at least 1 run while he has the ball, game over, YANMEE'S OWN US, LOCK STOCK AND BARREL by the time the Twins come home, the WC situation will be totally reversed, LA will have the lead, and Minny will be on the outside looking up once again, pitching is total garbage, not sure if the Vikings or the Twins are hardest to watch struggle, about a draw

Congrats to the entire Twins team! did not see this one coming today after such a slow/tough start today for Gibson. 4 walks alone in the 1st inning made me scratch my bald head and wonder if there any way in the world that the Twins could once again make a huge comeback? yup, they dang sure did, in a big way to boot~! good solid turn around for Gibby after that rough 1st inning, and the hitting with power??? what is going on? I'm, loving the power surge from Rosario/Buxton/Polanco! and even Mauer getting a taste of the long ball, really a huge tough stretch with the hated Yankmee's and then the unreal Indians, it's truly do or die in the next 7 days, I don't think our current starters are strong enough to make this WC happen, but with the way the offense has been playing, one never ever knows for sure,? have to keep the Faith!