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    Seth Stohs

    Might as well kill the lead right here in the first paragraph. When the Twins announce the players that they are adding to their 40-man roster on (or before) Thursday, we will see the names Alex Meyer, Miguel Sano and Eddie Rosario. Will the Twins choose to add any more than those three? We’ll find out then, but for a look at who all is eligible, keep reading.

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    Each year at this time, major league teams need to add players to their 40-man roster in order to protect them from being selected in the Rule 5 draft at the winter meetings in early December. A year ago, the Twins added Kennys Vargas, Max Kepler, Jorge Polanco and Logan Darnell.

    Who is eligible to be selected in the Rule 5 draft this year? Players who signed when they were less than 19-years-old in 2010 and players who were 19 or older when they signed in 2011. Of course, if they’re on the 40-man roster, they can’t be picked.

    The Givens

    As mentioned in the header, Miguel Sano, Eddie Rosario and Alex Meyer will all be added. Unless something completely unexpected happens in the next couple of days, their odds of being added to the 40-man roster are 100%

    Miguel Sano was actually signed in 2009, but since he signed in October, after the season ended, he was not eligible a year ago. He’s an elite prospect. There is no question. He will be protected.

    Eddie Rosario had a difficult 2014 season, much of his own doing. Even if he had not had a spectacular Arizona Fall League, he would have been a given to add.

    Finally, Alex Meyer may wind up being a bullpen arm, but the fact that he could become an ace if all goes well means that he also is going to be added to the roster.

    The Possibles

    There are several other options to be added. We went into much more detail in the Twins Daily Offseason Handbook, but here are some of the names that could be considered.

    Sean Gilmartin – I would put the odds quite high, maybe 75%, that he is added to the 40-man roster this week. Acquired from the Braves organization in the Ryan Doumit trade, the lefty put up solid numbers between New Britain and Rochester. The former first-round draft pick could be a back-of-the-rotation starter or a lefty reliever.

    Levi Michael – The Twins top pick in the 2011 draft has been hurt pretty much his whole career. In 2014, he returned to Ft. Myers where he played well for six weeks before fouling a ball off his foot and missing almost two months. He returned and hit very well in 15 games in New Britain. Maybe his ceiling is that of a utility infielder. Those are the types that get selected in the Rule 5. I’ll put his odds at about 50/50.

    Jason Wheeler – Another lefty, this 23-year-old was the Twins eighth round pick in 2011 out of Loyola Marymount. At 6-8 and about 250 pounds, Wheeler does not throw real hard, though he can hit 94 at times. However, he’s got good control of three pitches. He made starts at three different levels in 2014, including a start in Rochester. I’d put his odds at about 45%

    Jason Adam – The right-hander came to the Twins in the Josh Willingham deal in August. The Twins didn’t have much time to see him in the regular season so they sent him to the Arizona Fall League. He pitched to mixed results. The Twins want him to start, and he did reach AAA with the Royals as a 23-year-old. Might be worth a spot. I’ll put his odds at about 33%

    Niko Goodrum – Twins second round pick in 2010 has terrific tools. He was moved to third base this year after being a very good shortstop in the lowest levels. He hasn’t been able to put up the numbers, and he will soon be 23, but there is no denying the athleticism and the tools I don’t think he would be selected though because I don’t think he has a skill set that would stick in the majors. I’d put his odds at about 25%

    (Other first-year Rule 5 eligibles: Jose Abreu, Madison Boer, Tyler Grimes, Steven Gruver, David Hurlbut, Cole Johnson, Tyler Jones, Matt Koch, Brett Lee, Chris Mazza, Aderlin Mejia, Josue Montanez, Jeremias Pineda, Randy Rosario, Tim Shibuya, Jhon Silva, Matt Summers, Matt Tomshaw, Stephen Wickens, Corey Williams, JD Williams, Reyson Zoquiel.)

    Second/Third Year Eligibles

    There are several cases of players who go through the Rule 5 draft one year, make strides and then get added to the roster a year or two later. The following players have been eligible to be selected previously and could be again this year.

    (Pat Dean, Dallas Gallant, Jonatan Hinojosa, DJ Johnson, Kyle Knudson, Mike Kvasnicka, Ryan O’Rourke, Michael Quesada, Alex Wimmers)

    Of that list, the player who may have the best chance of being selected could be lefty Ryan O’Rourke. If you look at his overall numbers, they won’t stand out. However, when you look at what he did against left-handed hitters, it’s remarkable. In 2014, lefties hit just .103 off of him. He also had a 41:4 strikeout to walk rate against same-siders. He struggles against right-handers, but he could pitch in the big leagues now as a LOOGY.

    Signed Minor League Free Agents

    Since the World Series, the Minnesota Twins have signed many of their own six-year minor league free agents. If they sign others, those players also could be eligible for the Rule 5 draft.

    Two years ago, the Twins signed catcher Josmil Pinto instead of allowing him to become a six-year minor league free agent. Then in November they added him to the 40-man roster so he wasn’t exposed to the Rule 5.

    A few years further back, the Twins signed a pitcher to a six-year minor league free agent contract who had just started throwing a knuckleball a year or so earlier. That player was RA Dickey who was selected in the Rule 5 draft by the Mariners just weeks later.

    (James Beresford, Mike Gonzales, Mark Hamburger, Nate Hanson, BJ Hermsen, Danny Ortiz, Jairo Rodriguez, Reynaldo Rodriguez, Adrian Salcedo, Tony Thomas)

    On this list, there are a couple of intriguing names. Mark Hamburger had big league time with the Rangers, served a suspension, returned to the Twins and pitched well in a variety of roles with New Britain and Rochester in 2014. That versatility could be of value to a big league club looking for arms.

    James Beresford just signed on to stay in the Twins organization. He has now succeeded at every level of the minor leagues. Though he played almost exclusively at second base in 2014, he can play three infield positions. A team interested in a utility infielder might be draft him.

    SUMMARY

    The Twins have 36 men on their 40-man roster right now. In other words, they can only add four more players unless they remove others from the roster. They could just add the three Givens and still make a Rule 5 pick.

    What do you think? Which of these players would you want to add to the 40-man roster, and at the expense of who?

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    The teams play their cards close. Wait until the last minute to throw bodies out there, hoping to sneak some back onto minor league rosters (Colabello, for example) and you can't drop a newcomer from the 40-man, I believe, until after spring training.

     

    You have to ask, always, will a player be grabbed and held on a team's 40-man roster, will that player accept a minor league assignment, or will the resign with you as a team with a promise for a spring training invite.

     

    You need to have players to move during the free agent period, and heaven forbid that you roster is so solid that you end spring training with Matt Guerrier, Jason Kubel and Jason Bartlett all needing roster spots and you don't have bodies to send down, release or whatever. 

     

    You hate to see non-tenders (Duensing and Swarzak, maybe) as you wish the Twins were smart enough to get some value for them rather than jsut cut them loose, but the value of those players is also the fact that teams think the Twins may non-tender them. You tremble when spring training ends and the Twins lose guys like Pat Neshek, Alex Pressly, Mike Restovich because they needed a 40-man roster spot for someone (especially in hindsight) who didn't produce in the end. Not that the losses, down-the-road, are anything more than heartfelt.

     

    The Rule 5 got blown out of proportion, I think. If you don't have enough players of your own to protect, why are you going after another organization's 41st, or 61st or 71st player (with promise). There are so many players out there...look at the free agents, look at the minor league free agents, looks at teams that are drafting better and better players who last more than a short season for a look (what IS the average life of a prospect these days 3-4 years instead of 1-2 due to disabled list games and extended spring trainings) not to mention the amount of good, solid players in the numerous struggling for attendance independent leagues.

     

    Theilbar or Thompson or Darnell. One young, one could be a sleeper, one ahs been dependable and is still cheap.

     

    Fryer or Herrmann, neither necessary but are they better than nothing? Remember, Rene Rivera was once a Twin and look what he did last year. You grabbed a Henry Blanco who shined when Mauer went down. You find a Corky Miller and he stays in baseball for 80 years.

     

    But once you add a man to the 40-man, he stays. He has to go through waivers, which is almost worse than Rule 5, and can be snatched by a team, waived out by them and not claimed, and kept free-of-charge by that organization.

     

    So you have to believe a 40-man add will come to the majors. And believe me, when looking back at the Twins, so many have not! 

     

    Go look at the roster at www.twinscards.com, the minor league section, and see who was on the 40-man each season and didn't play in the majors that season. Start in 1961 and go forwards.

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    I'd clear the roster a bit:  Thompson, Fryer, Colabello, Herrmann gives them 8 spots.   Then I would thing strategically about arbitration eligibles and STLHPs (Soft Tossing)  Milone, Darnell, Gilmartin.  Pick one.  That makes 9 spots. Nunez, Schafer, Parmelee Do they belong to a contending team?  Maybe one as the last guy at the end of the bench.   Pick one.  11 spots.  Think hard about the pen. Archer, Pressly, Swrzak, Oliveros or Fien? Pick two.  14 Spots.  Duensing or Thielbar, pick one. 15 spots.  That is your core.

     

    Add Sano, Rosario & Meyer.  12 spots. Rethink who you picked earlier and add 2 names.  10 spots open.   About the right amount for a team that finished 99+96+96+92 to have to work itself into a competitive team.

     

    If the 40 man roster is about the same as 2014, the results will be similar.  And this is not too good.  I think a cleanup is needed...

     

    One of the major frustrations I have about this front office is that it approaches the off-season the same way every season, regardless winning 63 or 93 games the previous season.   Even keel is ok in smooth water,during a storm even keel is disastrous

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    Bernier wasn't added to the 40 Man, was he? I read that his deal was a minor-league deal, but the Rochester article says he "still has options remaining" - I'm guessing those are personal options as opposed to contractual options?

    http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/extra-bases/2014/11/19/red-wings-star-doug-bernier-re-signs-with-twins/19284749/

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    Bernier says he loves Rochester, but his mindset will be making the Twins when he heads to spring training. He played the final four weeks of the season in Minnesota this past September.

    "I feel I have an opportunity to play in the big leagues with the Twins," he said. "I really enjoyed working with (new Twins manager) Paul Molitor and (former Wings manager and new Twins third base coach) Gene Glynn in the past, and I'm looking forward to working with them this year."

    Bernier still has options remaining. While he says he would "much rather be in the big leagues," he has enjoyed his time in Rochester.

     

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      On 11/20/2014 at 4:42 PM, Kirby_waved_at_me said:

    Bernier wasn't added to the 40 Man, was he? I read that his deal was a minor-league deal, but the Rochester article says he "still has options remaining" - I'm guessing those are personal options as opposed to contractual options?

    http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/extra-bases/2014/11/19/red-wings-star-doug-bernier-re-signs-with-twins/19284749/

    I'll guess the article was written by someone not quite clear on the role of options and the 40-man roster.

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      On 11/19/2014 at 4:59 PM, diehardtwinsfan said:

    I'd trade or non-tender Swarzak. Theilbar wasn't bad in his role and I'd likely keep him around.

     

    T-Bar's FB velocity dropped close to 89MPH, thus, he relied more heavily on his so-so slider, which became a net Pitch F/X minus pitch for him in 2014.  And most importantly, he lost his split advantage against LH batters-  LHB OPS .760 --> RHB .713.  These developments helped lead to these significant drop-offs from 2013, with about the same number of IP:

     

    2013  ERA 1.70 SIERA 3.64 K% 22.8% H/9 4.70 BA .153 OPS .530  LD% 19.0%

    2014  ERA  3.40 SIERA 4.06 K% 16.0% H/9 9.54 BA .270 OPS .734 LD% 26.4% 

     

    Neither in 2013 or 2014 did the Twins see fit to put Thielbar into many high-leverage situations, only a little over 10% of all innings pitched.  There have to be other options to consider

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      On 11/18/2014 at 7:29 PM, Seth Stohs said:

    Seeing the Zack Duke (3 year, $15 million) contract, the Twins should strongly consider Gilmartin, Wheeler and Ryan O'Rourke.

    Zach Duke just posted an 11.4 K/9 in MLB.  Wheeler has never pitched out of the pen as a pro, Gilmartin has one relief appearance (a rehab one in rookie ball).  O'Rourke is an interesting name, but he's almost 27 years old with 1 inning of AAA ball to his credit.

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