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    Seth Stohs

    It was a great night for the Rochester Red Wings’ offense and it was led by Byron Buxton as you’ll read below. Adam Walker did what he does best, crush mistake pitches. Jason Wheeler continued to pitch well. Two long streaks continued for Kernels players, and the Miracle got a clutch hit from a top prospect. It was an eventful night in the Twins minor league system.

    Image courtesy of Joe Territo, Rochester Red Wings (photo of Byron Buxton)

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    NOTE: Seth will be in attendance at the games in Cedar Rapids on Friday, Saturday and Sunday, so expect reports and stories from there throughout the weekend. Remember, Cedar Rapids is less than five hours south of the Twin Cities. It’s certainly worth the trip, especially if you’re interested in prospects. Also, the Field of Dreams movie site is less than an hour away. Consider making a trip this summer! You’ll enjoy it! Check the Kernels schedule and get tickets here.

    For much more on what happened on Wednesday in the Twins farm system, please continue.

    TRANSACTIONS

    On Wednesday, there were a few transactions in the Twins system:

    • First, the Twins moved LHP Glen Perkins to the 60-Day disabled list. They put OF Darin Mastroianni on the 15-Day disabled list. They purchased the contract of LHP Buddy Boshers and called him up to the big leagues.
    • Mitch Garver was activated from the DL, but RHP Ryan Eades was placed on the DL.
    • RHP Hector Lujan was returned to extended spring training. RHP Nick Anderson was promoted from Cedar Rapids to Ft. Myers. RHP Kuo Hua Lo was brought back to the Kernels from extended spring training.

    RED WINGS REPORT

    Rochester 9, Indianapolis 8

    Box Score

    Byron Buxton has had a tremendous May with the Red Wings which begs the question, how long will (and should) he remain in AAA before coming back to the Twins? It’s a fair question, to be sure. He led off this game with a double. In his second at-bat, he hit his fifth home run, a long blast to the right of center field. He was intentionally walked the next time up. In his final plate appearance, he lined a single up the middle. Altogether, he was 3-4 with his seventh double, fifth homer and two RBI.

    In the first inning, Tommy Field knocked a three-run homer, his third homer in just over a week with the organization. He went 2-3 with a walk and four RBI. Field’s home run was followed by Adam Brett Walker’s tenth home run of the season, a tape-measure shot measured at about 450 feet. Kennys Vargas went 2-4 with a walk. Eddie Rosario went 2-4 with a double. Jorge Polanco added his fifth triple.

    Jason Wheeler was good again. He improved to 3-1 with a 1.86 ERA with six solid innings. He gave up two runs in five hits and a walk. He struck out three. David Martinez came on and gave up one run on one hit and two walks in the seventh. He struck out two. Alex Wimmers gave up a hit in a scoreless eighth.

    The Red Wings went into the ninth inning with a 9-3 lead. Ryan O’Rourke started the inning. He got two outs, but gave up five runs (two earned) on five hits. JT Chargois came in and gave up a hit, but he then got the final out for his third Red Wings save.

    The Red Wings have now won 15 of their last 20 games and are 26-20 on the season.

    CHATTANOOGA CHATTER

    Chattanooga 6, Tennessee 2

    Box Score

    Good things come in threes, right? The Lookouts scored three runs in the third inning thanks to two triples. TJ White got things going with a two-run triple. Next up was leadoff man Zach Granite who switched places with him with a triple of his own.

    Ryan Walker went 2-4 with his third stolen base. Leonardo Reginnato went 2-3. Daniel Palka added a triple late in the game.

    DJ Baxendale started and worked the first 6.2 innings. He gave up two runs on four hits. He also hit a batter. He struck out one. Mason Melotakis came on and get the final out of the 7th inning, on a strikeout. Trevor Hildenberger picked up his fourth save. He struck out three over two scoreless innings. He gave up two hits. Baxendale improved to 4-5 with a 3.06 ERA.

    With the win, the Lookouts improved to 20-26 on the season.

    MIRACLE MATTERS

    Ft. Myers 4, Palm Beach 10 (10 innings)

    Box Score

    Obviously the tenth inning didn’t go well for the Miracle. Nick Gordon’s third triple tied the score at four in the ninth inning. However, in the tenth, the first eight batters reached for the Cardinals and six of them scored.

    Keaton Steele started. The right-hander gave up one run on six hits and four walks in five innings. He struck out four. Nick Anderson came on for his Florida State League debut. He gave up an unearned run on one hit and one walk in his inning. The unearned run was due to a throwing error by Anderson himself. He struck out two. Raul Fernandez threw two scoreless innings. John Curtiss gave up two runs in the ninth, but when the Miracle scored two to tie it, he returned for the tenth. All three batters he faced reached base. He was replaced by Brian Gilbert who faced five batters and gave up three hits, a walk, and the next batter reached on an error. He was replaced by Todd Van Steensel who gave up a hit but got the final three outs, two on strikeouts.

    Max Murphy and Brian Navarreto each went 3-5 in the game. Tanner Witt went 2-4 with a walk. Edgar Corcino went 2-4 and his fourth home run of the year tied the game at two in the eighth inning. Gordon went 1-3 with two walks and the triple.

    The Miracle fell to 24-23 on the season.

    KERNELS NUGGETS

    Cedar Rapids 6, Burlington 7

    Box Score

    Sam Clay had his first rough start of the season. The left-hander gave up seven runs on six hits, five walks and a hit batter in just 2.2 innings. He struck out one. Kuo Hua Lo struck out six over the next 3.1 innings. He gave up two hits and walked two, but no runs. Williams Ramirez then worked two perfect innings, striking out one.

    LaMonte Wade got things going for the Kernels with a home run, his fourth, in the first inning. He didn’t take long to increase his streak of consecutive games getting on base to 25. He went 3-5 in the game. Later, Zander Wiel extended his hitting streak to 13 games with a two-run single. Brad Hartong went 2-4 with his first triple. Jermaine Palacios went 2-4 with his third double and two driven in.

    TWINS DAILY PLAYERS OF THE DAY

    Twins Daily Minor League Pitcher of the Day – Trevor Hildenberger, Chattanooga Lookouts

    Twins Daily Minor League Hitter of the Day – Byron Buxton, Rochester Red Wings

    THURSDAY’S PROBABLE STARTERS

    Indianapolis @ Rochester (10:05 a.m. CST) - RHP Jose Berrios

    Tennessee @ Chattanooga (6:15 CST) - LHP Nick Greenwood

    Palm Beach @ Ft. Myers (6:00 CST) – RHP Felix Jorge

    Cedar Rapids @ Burlington (6:30 CST) – RHP Fernando Romero

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    Great to see Buxton continue to dominate. With the question of when to promote him, I think another 3 weeks down and hopefully the rest of the season with the Twins would be great.

     

    His k rate is still near 25 percent. I don't have his numbers but I would be honing in on his numbers with two strikes. But another 100 AB down there is not a bad thing.

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    Glad he's having some success, but I hope he doesn't come up until he's crushing Triple A pitching. I agree with tobi, another couple hundred AB's in Rochester would be fine with me. He's not going to make any difference this year, and when he comes back up, I hope it's forever.

     

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    Great to see Buxton continue to dominate. With the question of when to promote him, I think another 3 weeks down and hopefully the rest of the season with the Twins would be great.

    His k rate is still near 25 percent. I don't have his numbers but I would be honing in on his numbers with two strikes. But another 100 AB down there is not a bad thing.

    Yeah, I agree that the BB:K ratio, especially k% needs to be better before he comes up. This is one of those times were we probably shouldn't get overly hyped into the production, but need to look more into the process. Even his walk was intentional, not through patience/approach. 

     

    It has been discussed on hear lately and by national people that Twins tools athletes tend to have great numbers in the minors through their athleticism, while not developing an approach that works at the majors. Rosario has yet to walk since he's been down. I love what Buxton is doing to the ball right now, but will this translate to the next level and how bad will that k% be in the majors this next try? 

     

    Read some comments he made about being more comfortable around his AAA teammates ('family'), so those who really believe in team chemistry, leadership, and all that should maybe be pushing to just clean house at the majors and get all of these AAA prospects up at the same time and hand the keys to the "clubhouse" to THEM and send a message to the others that its their team, not aging veterans who have lost most of their careers. Just saying, and makes me wonder how these guys are being treated by team and staff in the majors. I wouldn't be surprised if they are not all that welcoming to them, which would maybe affect play/confidence some. I could see a few of the guys being jerks to them for varying ego reasons, but will keep those names quiet. 

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    Gordon has 14 errors. (Errors are not predictive...but 14 is just bad)

     

    What the heck is going on down there? Every scouting report I have seen raves about his defensive tools. But he has 14 errors. Is this bad coaching? Poor effort? What?

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     It has been discussed on hear lately and by national people that Twins tools athletes tend to have great numbers in the minors through their athleticism, while not developing an approach that works at the majors. Rosario has yet to walk since he's been down. I love what Buxton is doing to the ball right now, but will this translate to the next level and how bad will that k% be in the majors this next try? 

    I think you are making some sweeping generalizations from a few data points. Yes, Rosario and Santana don't walk and K a lot, but they did that in the middle and high minors too. Hicks was too patient/arguably walked too much. Kepler's walk/K rates look amazing. I support Buxton staying down for a couple more weeks, and I'm not saying I think the Twins have the best development staff by any means, but I don't think you can draw those kind of sweeping conclusions about what the Twins' development problems are from the failure of one or two B prospects to have sustainable success in the majors in their low 20s.

     

    Gordon has 14 errors. (Errors are not predictive...but 14 is just bad)

    What the heck is going on down there? Every scouting report I have seen raves about his defensive tools. But he has 14 errors. Is this bad coaching? Poor effort? What?

    Its called being 20 and having mental lapses.

     

    Just going to leave this here: Andrelton Simmons Age 21, A+ - 28 errors.

     

    Is 14 errors in two months good? Of course not. But given the scouting reports (and vidoes I've seen) of his defensive capabilities, I don't think it is anything to worry too much about. It is also worth noting that Gordon put on some muscle this offseason. That could very well have forced him to adjust some of his fielding mechanics, which could take time to get used to and throw things off.

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    I'd leave Buxton down for a lot longer than a few weeks.  That's just  me.  He needs to reinforce that approach.  His K rate is still bad, but it's much improved in May (a good thing).  But I think exercising impatience here is a mistake.  Let him get some high minors at bats... and a lot of them.

     

    I'd probably slot him in as the 2017 guy with some sort of AAAA signing at CF in case he flops again. 

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    Saw Wheeler in Fort Myers this spring. Big boy. Big fastball. Lefthanded. Hope he gets a rotation shot within a year.

     

    Based on your observations of him this spring, is Wheeler one of those guys who is just going to sneak up on all of us and blow by the guys currently in front of him and far more heralded on the prospect depth chart? (And this, despite how hard it must be to sneak past anyone with all the noticeable descriptors you provide?)

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    I think you are making some sweeping generalizations from a few data points. Yes, Rosario and Santana don't walk and K a lot, but they did that in the middle and high minors too. Hicks was too patient/arguably walked too much. Kepler's walk/K rates look amazing. I support Buxton staying down for a couple more weeks, and I'm not saying I think the Twins have the best development staff by any means, but I don't think you can draw those kind of sweeping conclusions about what the Twins' development problems are from the failure of one or two B prospects to have sustainable success in the majors in their low 20s.

     

    Its called being 20 and having mental lapses.

     

    Just going to leave this here: Andrelton Simmons Age 21, A+ - 28 errors.

     

    Is 14 errors in two months good? Of course not. But given the scouting reports (and vidoes I've seen) of his defensive capabilities, I don't think it is anything to worry too much about. It is also worth noting that Gordon put on some muscle this offseason. That could very well have forced him to adjust some of his fielding mechanics, which could take time to get used to and throw things off.

    Of those 14 errors do you have what percent are fielding versus throwing? 

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    Based on your observations of him this spring, is Wheeler one of those guys who is just going to sneak up on all of us and blow by the guys currently in front of him and far more heralded on the prospect depth chart? (And this, despite how hard it must be to sneak past anyone with all the noticeable descriptors you provide?)

     

    My thoughts - When I saw him this spring, he looked 'bigger' than he did a year ago (not as in good of shape). He tops out at like 93, though he sits 89-91 most of the time. I'm very intrigued by his success, especially at AAA because of how much he struggled there last year. I'd like to catch up with him on what the difference has been.

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    I'd leave Buxton down for a lot longer than a few weeks.  That's just  me.  He needs to reinforce that approach.  His K rate is still bad, but it's much improved in May (a good thing).  But I think exercising impatience here is a mistake.  Let him get some high minors at bats... and a lot of them.

     

    I'd probably slot him in as the 2017 guy with some sort of AAAA signing at CF in case he flops again. 

    At this point I don't know if I would bring any of the top prospects up to Minnesota for the time being.  From what I have read and the feel I get just by listening to the current players, it does not seem to be a happy or good place to be right now.  I've heard the term "toxic clubhouse" thrown around by a few people on here.  If that is true I don't want my top prospects getting poisoned by that as well as trying to find their way as a big league ball player.  Wait until that gets cleaned up then bring them up en masse.

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    At this point I don't know if I would bring any of the top prospects up to Minnesota for the time being.  From what I have read and the feel I get just by listening to the current players, it does not seem to be a happy or good place to be right now.  I've heard the term "toxic clubhouse" thrown around by a few people on here.  If that is true I don't want my top prospects getting poisoned by that as well as trying to find their way as a big league ball player.  Wait until that gets cleaned up then bring them up en masse.

    It may not happen until next season when the sources causing the toxic clubhouse are gone. Would you be okay letting an entire season go by watching stop-gap players?

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    LaMonte Wade is certainly making a lot of noise in CR. He's on my radar now of prospects to follow going forward. Would be nice to develop another OF for the future. 

     

     

    Yeah, this team is sorely missing a high OBP OF. I'd like to see him fast-tracked and see how he does against the better pitching in A+ and AA ball and guys a year or two older than him for a season and a half... and then see if he can continue developing enough to start helping the team sometime in 2018.

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    It may not happen until next season when the sources causing the toxic clubhouse are gone. Would you be okay letting an entire season go by watching stop-gap players?

     

    At this point, that is what it is.  You can definitely remove some of them at some point, and even yet this year.

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    Yeah, this team is sorely missing a high OBP OF. I'd like to see him fast-tracked and see how he does against the better pitching in A+ and AA ball and guys a year or two older than him for a season and a half... and then see if he can continue developing enough to start helping the team sometime in 2018.

    I would love to see that happen. d-mac brought it to our attention in another thread that the Twins move players slowly through the lower levels and try to move them quickly through AA and AAA. Since then I'm bought in on the philosophy of moving players quickly through the lower levels and let them simmer in AA and AAA. 

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    It may not happen until next season when the sources causing the toxic clubhouse are gone. Would you be okay letting an entire season go by watching stop-gap players?

    Probably not.  Hopefully winning a few ballgames will air out the place and change the attitude in there.  But if it could be proven that a bad clubhouse has a correlation with young players development I would take the stopgap year.  (It can't be proven)

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    I would love to see that happen. d-mac brought it to our attention in another thread that the Twins move players slowly through the lower levels and try to move them quickly through AA and AAA. Since then I'm bought in on the philosophy of moving players quickly through the lower levels and let them simmer in AA and AAA. 

     

    Yep. Especially college guys. Wade had a breakout year in his last year at Maryland, despite being injured. He probably is what he is at this point so I don't see the point in incrementalism, throw him in the deep end of the pool in mid-June down in Ft Myers and let's see how well he can swim with the bigger fish.

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    I don't think I've seen AJ Murray mentioned once on this forum this season, which is surprising considering the dire catching situation the Twins are facing right now. 

     

    He has an .880 OPS with great on-base skills. I'd like to see him get a shot in Fort Myers along with Wade soon. 

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    Yes, we're hearing more and more speculation about the clubhouse environment, which is to be expected. So far, however, I can't cite a single circumstance where someone with real information and access has talked specifically about this. No beat writer has insinuated that a certain player or players are toxic, or that the team is playing too tight or too loose, etc. The third-party reference here to the Buxton comments is really the first inkling of anything for me, and this is pretty specious evidence of a problem.

     

    And yet, I find myself wondering if Molitor, Allen, Brunansky et al aren't struggling with managing the clubhouse, and with getting the best out of the players.

     

    The problem with speculation on TD is that the more there is, the more likely that speculation becomes "fact", evidence notwithstanding.

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    I'd wait at least 3 more weeks for Buxton to continue his progress. I have no idea what the clubhouse is like......but I have my doubts it is a great place to be right now. But, I have no idea.

     

    I would not wait until fall call ups to call him up, though. He needs to be back up in June/July, to face real MLB pitching for 2 months, so they can know if they need a backup plan again next year.

     

    Wade should have been promoted already. But, we see the slow progress in the low minors thing with him for sure.

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    I don't think I've seen AJ Murray mentioned once on this forum this season, which is surprising considering the dire catching situation the Twins are facing right now. 

     

    He has an .880 OPS with great on-base skills. I'd like to see him get a shot in Fort Myers along with Wade soon. 

     

    Probably another one in the Mitch Garver type mold (not a bad prospect either). 

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    Yes, we're hearing more and more speculation about the clubhouse environment, which is to be expected. So far, however, I can't cite a single circumstance where someone with real information and access has talked specifically about this. No beat writer has insinuated that a certain player or players are toxic, or that the team is playing too tight or too loose, etc. The third-party reference here to the Buxton comments is really the first inkling of anything for me, and this is pretty specious evidence of a problem.

     

    And yet, I find myself wondering if Molitor, Allen, Brunansky et al aren't struggling with managing the clubhouse, and with getting the best out of the players.

     

    The problem with speculation on TD is that the more there is, the more likely that speculation becomes "fact", evidence notwithstanding.

    I think Souhan had a recent hit piece about Hughes and Perkins. And others about Dozier's defiance and Sano's attitude.

     

    Not saying a buy much of it. But it has been out there

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    Yes, we're hearing more and more speculation about the clubhouse environment, which is to be expected. So far, however, I can't cite a single circumstance where someone with real information and access has talked specifically about this. No beat writer has insinuated that a certain player or players are toxic, or that the team is playing too tight or too loose, etc. The third-party reference here to the Buxton comments is really the first inkling of anything for me, and this is pretty specious evidence of a problem.

     

    And yet, I find myself wondering if Molitor, Allen, Brunansky et al aren't struggling with managing the clubhouse, and with getting the best out of the players.

     

    The problem with speculation on TD is that the more there is, the more likely that speculation becomes "fact", evidence notwithstanding.

    We'll be waiting for years for a beat writer in this city to write something about what's really going on in this clubhouse. 0% chance that they air any dirty laundry until the person and/or people causing this bad atmosphere are out of the organization. 

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    Errors for a young infielder just shouldn't be a concern really. There is a difference in making errors...learning mechanics, disciple, poorer fields, not as good of a 1B, etc...vs simply not being cut out for the position.

     

    I did some research for a post here at TD once and it was revealing just how many errors top ML SS had in the minors and/or their early ML career.

     

    Which is one of the things that has frustrated me about Polanco as a SS. I still don't think we know for sure he can't play the position daily because we never get to him him there.

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    I think Souhan had a recent hit piece about Hughes and Perkins. And others about Dozier's defiance and Sano's attitude.

    Not saying a buy much of it. But it has been out there

     

    Yep, this isn't TD-based rumor-mongering imposing a new narrative, let alone, "fact".

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    We'll be waiting for years for a beat writer in this city to write something about what's really going on in this clubhouse. 0% chance that they air any dirty laundry until the person and/or people causing this bad atmosphere are out of the organization.

    I don't know if that is true. Saying Sano was at a autograph signing in NYC while the team lies and says he is working in his OF defense seems like dirty laundry.

     

    And Aaron Hicks is another where "team officials" bad mouthed his attitude and preparation to beat writers.

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