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  • White Sox Winning Winter Meetings Through Day 1


    Seth Stohs

    The Winter Meetings are always a fun time for baseball fans. If you follow twitter or MLB Trade Rumors, there are constantly updates throughout the week, at all hours of the day. There is no question that the Chicago White Sox won Day 1 of the Winter Meetings. Here is a look at what happened on Day 1 in terms of Twins news. (No, it will not be empty below.)

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    OVERVIEW

    The Winter Meetings were originally set up as a meeting for all minor league teams. Then major league teams started crashing the party and since then, it has become a media Mecca.

    Contrary to popular belief, it isn’t just a place where GMs meet with agents and other GMs. Front offices of the teams go to have meetings.

    That said, of course, all the teams are there. All the GMs are there. All the agents are there. There are meetings.

    However, how many of the rumors will turn into actual transactions during this week? A few will, and we’ll try to stay on top of everything here at Twins Daily.

    WHITE SOX ARE BUSY

    Earlier in the offseason, the White Sox signed 1B Adam LaRoche, and then they signed lefty reliever Zach Duke.

    Rumors throughout the night were that the White Sox and A’s were in serious discussions about Jeff Samardzija. Sox infielder Marcus Simien, who was a top 100 prospect in Baseball America a year ago, was one name mentioned. It’s hard for me to believe he would be the key piece to such a trade. I think the White Sox would need to give up a higher-ranking prospect to get Samardzija.

    Then as midnight approached, USA Today’s Bob Nightengale tweeted that the White Sox signed closer David Robertson for four years and $46 million. The long-time set- up man for Mariano Rivera finally got the opportunity to close last year. He turned in a solid season and got his big pay day.

    There are rumors that the White Sox still could be a player for third baseman Chase Headley.

    Teaming “Shark” with lefties Chris Sale and Jose Quintana certainly gives the South Siders some quality pitching.

    COLABELLO CLAIMED BY THE BLUE JAYS

    Late this morning, the Toronto Blue Jays announced that they had claimed first baseman Chris Colabello. He comes off the Twins 40-man roster, putting the roster at 39. It will be interesting to see what happens in the next couple of days. Were the Twins just trying to clear up a spot for a potential free agent signing? Were they just opening up a roster spot so that they can make a Rule 5 selection on Thursday? Could other players currently be on the waiver wire to create more roster spots so that the Twins could do both?

    Colabello’s story was (and remains) remarkable. The Twins signed him before the 2012 season out of independent baseball where he spent eight seasons. He made the New Britain roster and raked that whole season. In 2013, he was invited to big league spring training and became a hero for Team Italy in the World Baseball Classic. He was named the International League Rookie of the Year and MVP for his great play in AAA Rochester. In May, all that time spent culminated with his big league debut. And, of course, he made the Twins opening day roster. He was named the American League co-Player of the Month in April. Unfortunately, he was jammed on a pitch late in the month and had thumb problems that affected him the rest of the season. Even recently, he learned from an MRI that there was still inflammation.

    It’s a savvy move for the Blue Jays. The powerful Colabello showed that when healthy he can hit and be quite productive in the big leagues. The Blue Jays traded Adam Lind in the offseason to Milwaukee, but then they acquired first baseman Justin Smoak. Colabello could compete with another former Twins player, Danny Valencia, for right-handed platoon at-bats. The other thing is that Colabello still has an option year remaining so he can provide the Jays with powerful depth. Of course, seeing how Toronto has operated the last couple of seasons, it’s also possible that they could now try to sneak Colabello through waivers, too.

    OLIVA, KAAT FALL SHY OF COOPERSTOWN

    At 1:00 central time on Monday, the Hall of Fame gathered the media together in San Diego to tell them that the Veteran’s Committee had elected no one to the Hall of Fame. I think a press release might have done the job.

    For enshrinement, a player would have needed 12 of the 16 Veteran’s Committee members to vote for them. Tony Oliva and Dick Allen both received 11 votes. Jim Kaat received 10 votes.

    Can you imagine being one vote away from receiving baseball’s ultimate honor? One vote! Now, I have said many times in the past that I don’t think that Oliva or Kaat should be in the Hall of Fame, but whenever they are up for election again, I will hope like crazy that they make it.

    MASTERSON UPDATE

    1500 ESPN’s Darren Wolfson posted several tweets yesterday indicating that the Twins have been unable to meet with free agent starter Justin Masterson. It may be that his agent hasn’t been able to work out a time to talk to Terry Ryan. It’s also possible that Masterson just isn’t interested in the Twins.

    Listen, the reason that Masterson is appealing to many as a potential free agent acquisition is that he was coming off his age-29 season in which he posted a 7-9 record with a 5.88 ERA and a 1.63 WHIP between Cleveland and St. Louis. The thought was that he might want to sign a cheap, one-year deal with someone to regain market value, so why not the Twins?

    Part of the allure was that he has some upside and typically has eaten a lot of innings. However, since the hot stove league began, it’s been suggested by many that there are a lot of teams, likely well into double-digit teams, who are interested. That creates a bit of a bidding war. Frankly, it’s not a bidding war I would want to get into. His ERA+ in 2013 was 110, in 2012 it was 79, in 2011, it was 122, in 2010 it was 84 and in 2009 it was 94. That’s not the kind of guy you get into a bidding war over.

    OTHER FREE AGENTS OF NOTE

    LaVelle E. Neal of the Star Tribune posted throughout the day that the Twins have been quite active talking to agents for some free agent pitchers. That sounds good, but the four pitchers that he is linking the Twins with are Logan Ondrusek, Dustin McGowan, John Axford and Alexi Ogando. All four would be relief pitchers.

    None of those names are terribly exciting on a major league contract. I realize that the Twins can improve their bullpen. I just personally prefer going the minor league signing route or using starting pitchers who are not in the starting rotation. Then again, I’m good with anyone on a minor league contract.

    TERRY RYAN NOTES

    In his Monday media discussions, Terry Ryan indicated that he had no interest in the Toronto Blue Jays CEO/President position. He said he is from Minnesota, it’s where his family is and will remain. This is no surprise, of course, since Ryan had the opportunity to be the Blue Jays general manager in 2001 when the Twins were on the contraction chopping block. He could have left then but decided that he was staying.

    He also said that Ron Gardenhire is likely to take the 2015 year off and then determine what he wants to do in 2016. He will continue to have a standing job offer with the Twins.

    COMING SOON: MINNESOTA TWINS PROSPECT HANDBOOK 2015

    Much more will be coming throughout this week, but this year’s Twins Prospect Handbook will be available within a week, possibly even as early as Friday. Co-Authors Jeremy Nygaard, Cody Christie and I are waiting until after the Rule 5 draft to release the book so that we can add (or subtract) any players affected that day.

    This year’s Prospect Handbook (my seventh) is huge, and it’s packed with Twins minor league information. There are prospect profiles on approximately 150 Twins minor leaguers. Anyone from the Gulf Coast League through guys whose Rookie of the Year status remain. You’ll find stories on our choices for Starting Pitcher (JO Berrios), Relief Pitcher (Brandon Peterson), Hitter (Mitch Garver) and Manager (Doug Mientkiewicz) of the Year. Jeremy takes a look at the Twins draft in 2014 and looks ahead to the 2015 draft when the Twins have the sixth selection. Cody took a look at the injuries. We also had articles from Steve Buhr, Eric Pleiss and former Twins minor leaguer AJ Pettersen.

    I’m also excited to say that St. Paul Pioneer Press’s Mike Berardino wrote a terrific foreword for the book. We also want to thank Linwood Ferguson for his pictures of the Ft. Myers players and Steve Buhr for pictures from Cedar Rapids.

    As I mentioned, there will be much more information coming in the next few days. If you’re looking for a Christmas gift or stocking stuffer, consider getting a copy of the 2015 Minnesota Twins Prospect Handbook.

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    WHAT WILL HAPPEN ON DAY 2?

    The White Sox won Day 1 of the Winter Meetings in San Diego. What will happen on Day 2? Will the Twins make any news?

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    And we don't know who the other prospect is.  Their system is not ranked that great, but their top five is not shabby.  Rodon is 1.  They have a young SS at 2 that had an OPS over .800 in three league last year (17th pick in 2013).  #3 is a starter that throws 100 and had an ERA of 1.44 last year.  #5 is their first rounder in 2012 with some power. 

     

    I'm betting the A's don't get any of the Top Four, at least.  They likely aren't getting Rodon, Anderson, Montas or Johnson.  

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    The Sox won 73 games last year with two primary closers. One with an ERA of 1.96 and the other 2.96 (Putnam and Petricka).   Both better than Robertson's 3.08.

     

    Even if Jeff S. has a year like the last two, how are they going to win 88 games?  I expect regression out of Abreu as well. 

     

    maybe, but now he has LaRoche for plate protection.

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    The Sox won 73 games last year with two primary closers. One with an ERA of 1.96 and the other 2.96 (Putnam and Petricka).   Both better than Robertson's 3.08.

     

    Even if Jeff S. has a year like the last two, how are they going to win 88 games?  I expect regression out of Abreu as well. 

     

    So adding a guy to their mix of Putnam, Petricka and Duke, from the pressure cooker in New York, plus following Mariano Rivera, is a bad thing?

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    So adding a guy to their mix of Putnam, Petricka and Duke, from the pressure cooker in New York, plus following Mariano Rivera, is a bad thing?

     

    Not a bad thing.  But they will have the same production out of the closer. So I am not adding any wins here, certainly not multiple wins.

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    maybe, but now he has LaRoche for plate protection.

     

    Cespedes had an OPS of .861 in the first year.  .737 and .751 the next two.

     

    Puig's OPS went from .925 to .863.  When the tape is out on these guys they regress.  That regression will hurt the White Sox way more than a 35 year old Adam Larcoche (career .811 OPS).  He is a bad defender too, not sure if they will DH him.

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     Frankly, it’s not a bidding war I would want to get into. His ERA+ in 2013 was 110, in 2012 it was 79, in 2011, it was 122, in 2010 it was 84 and in 2009 it was 94. That’s not the kind of guy you get into a bidding war over.

     

     

     

    Actually, looking at that pattern it apears like a great time to buy low on him in an odd numbered year.  He seems to enjoy those.

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    I would not call them quite "winners" yet.  I am not sure how I would felt if the Twins traded Kyle Gibson and Jorge Polanco for a season (or half) of Samardzija.  Because that's practically what the WSux did, only Marcus Semien is maybe more MLB-ready than Polanco and Chriss Bassit is under more years of club control than Gibson.

     

    As far as Robertson goes,  I love that move.  He reminds me of a certain closer.   Robertson 2014: 4-5, 3.08 ERA, 39 saves, 2.68 FIP.  Matt Capps 2010: 5-3, 2.47 ERA, 42 saves, 3.22 FIP.     Paying top $ for an "established closer" while you can put a failed starter who did not quite reach his potential in the position (Nathan and Perkins are examples) is silly.  I think that the Twins should trade Perkins, since the market for closers has become nutty and try Pelf there.

     

    So it is kinda business as usual for the WSox:  They overspend, they do not quite make it and then they burn it up and start  again.    Winners?  Nah.   That's as much their MO, as dumpster diving is TR's

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    Gilaspie- 27 years old, OPS+ 113 Slash .282/.336/.416/.752 (not even Arb eligible until 2016)

    Plouffe-   28 years old  OPS+ 110 Slash .258/.328/.423/.751

     

    Plouffe also had twice as many homers and hit 40 doubles. Plouffe had a 3.9 WAR to Gillaspie's 1.5.

     

    Gillaspie hits well enough, but his defense is not so hot. Maybe he turns it into a strength as Plouffe did in 2014 - but I think they are not as close as their triple slash makes them out to be.

     

    The White Sox have been actively looking to replace Gillaspie this off-season, they've been linked to Sandoval and are rumored to be after Headley as well.

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    The Twins missed on Abreu last year. and LaRoche was a better bat addition than the Twins made this year.  The Twins don't have an Ace, the Sox now have an Ace and a Half-  and Quintana in 2014 was pretty close in performance to Sale and Shark.  If Rodon has a big splash debut, they have 4 imposing pieces in the rotation.  The Sox don't have the Twins farm system, but most of their young guys are already on the roster, with a few Top 100 infielders and a few more arms knocking on the door.

    The Whities have "a few" Top 100 infielders? Tim Anderson for sure, but now find me two others that are in this category, jokin. And if you're counting Shark on the CWS side of the ledger, it's only fair to subtract Semien. 

     

    Not to take away from what CWS is accomplishing. I think Hahn is doing a nice job of creating a formidable big league team in very short order, although I question whether he can build a sustainable level of excellence absent either a further resurgence of the farm system beyond two elite prospects or further aggressive spending in FA markets.

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    Cespedes had an OPS of .861 in the first year.  .737 and .751 the next two.

     

    Puig's OPS went from .925 to .863.  When the tape is out on these guys they regress.  That regression will hurt the White Sox way more than a 35 year old Adam Larcoche (career .811 OPS).  He is a bad defender too, not sure if they will DH him.

     

    LaRoache is a good defender though, I'd guess unless they're platooning two guys who they paid $100 million, that Abreu will be getting most of the DH AB's. 

     

    He likely will regress some, after all, if he didn't, a continued pace of a .964 OPS is going to have us talking HOF in a couple years.  Still, even if you want to go extreme and use that 14.5% regression that Cespedes had in year two, Abreu is still putting up a .825 OPS, which is better than any player the Twins had last year.

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    Oh, and the Twins didn't "miss" on Abreu. They chose not to swing, with logical reasons, whether one agrees with them or not. And they added a better bat than LaRoche last year. Both Arcia and Vargas will prove to be better bats. Let's noe see if they can match up with Sano and Buxton as well.

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    The Whities have "a few" Top 100 infielders? Tim Anderson for sure, but now find me two others that are in this category, jokin. And if you're counting Shark on the CWS side of the ledger, it's only fair to subtract Semien. 

     

    Not to take away from what CWS is accomplishing. I think Hahn is doing a nice job of creating a formidable big league team in very short order, although I question whether he can build a sustainable level of excellence absent either a further resurgence of the farm system beyond two elite prospects or further aggressive spending in FA markets.

     

    I wonder what the sentiment would have been in 2009.  They ripped up their system for Jake Peavy and signed Colon.  Then they won 79 games.

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    LaRoache is a good defender though, I'd guess unless they're platooning two guys who they paid $100 million, that Abreu will be getting most of the DH AB's. 

     

    He likely will regress some, after all, if he didn't, a continued pace of a .964 OPS is going to have us talking HOF in a couple years.  Still, even if you want to go extreme and use that 14.5% regression that Cespedes had in year two, Abreu is still putting up a .825 OPS, which is better than any player the Twins had last year.

     

    LaRoche had a dWAR of -1 last year.    -9.6 so far in his career.

     

    My point on the regression for Abreau is they won 73 games and will get regression from their best hitter.  An .850-.875 is a huge decline from last year...so they have moving pieces here in both directions.

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    Not a bad thing.  But they will have the same production out of the closer. So I am not adding any wins here, certainly not multiple wins.

    I think that would be a mistake on your part.  Both Duke and Robertson were high leverage performers familiar with pennant races.  Further, you glaringly glossed over the relative performances here-

     

    Petricka  ERA 2.96 FIP 3.60 xFIP 3.76    K/9   6.78

    Putnam  ERA 1.98 FIP 3.08 xFIP 3.64     K/9   7.57

    Duke      ERA 2.49 FIP 2.14 xFIP 2.09     K/9 11.35

    Robtsn.  ERA 3.08 FIP 2.65 xFIP 2.13     K/9 13.43 

     

    And remember, Duke and Robertson are likely replacing big innings from guys who had negative value in 2014.

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    Two words: one day.

     

    Maybe we should ALL wait on talkin' a good game, eh? ;)

     

    Actually, it's been well over a year of very bold and decisive decisions on the Whities part.

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    There must have been an earlier tweet where he talks about everything the Twins are doing, which is why they are the only AL central team not mentioned int he first tweet above.

     

    Didn't you guys hear we got contracted again?

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    Oh, and the Twins didn't "miss" on Abreu. They chose not to swing, with logical reasons, whether one agrees with them or not. And they added a better bat than LaRoche last year. Both Arcia and Vargas will prove to be better bats. Let's noe see if they can match up with Sano and Buxton as well.

     

    Given the result, the "logical reasons" not to take a swing is still a "miss" when the pitch went right over the plate. A strike out is still a strike out whether you swing or not.

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    Actually, it's been well over a year of very bold and decisive decisions on the Whities part.

    Sorry, I thought your main point was that, unlike the Twins, who are merely talking' a good game (one day of winter meetings behind them), the Whities are actually doing something (one day, no confirmation on the Shark trade). My bad.

     

    We agree that Hahn is acting boldly. 

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    Given the result, the "logical reasons" not to take a swing is still a "miss" when the pitch went right over the plate. A strike out is still a strike out whether you swing or not.

    So by your logic, you must conclude that every team in baseball is incompetent. After all, they all missed on Sano. I mean, talk about a fat pitch. Except the Twins, who maybe just got lucky.

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    The Whities have "a few" Top 100 infielders? Tim Anderson for sure, but now find me two others that are in this category, jokin. And if you're counting Shark on the CWS side of the ledger, it's only fair to subtract Semien. 

     

    Not to take away from what CWS is accomplishing. I think Hahn is doing a nice job of creating a formidable big league team in very short order, although I question whether he can build a sustainable level of excellence absent either a further resurgence of the farm system beyond two elite prospects or further aggressive spending in FA markets.

     

    "A few" means Anderson and Micah Johnson (my guy, who has been in various top 100s at the bottom end, but who has 75-80 speed).  I think these two are going to be the Sox middle infielders for many years to come, gamer Johnson arriving this year, Anderson by 2016.

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    So by your logic, you must conclude that every team in baseball is incompetent. After all, they all missed on Sano. Except the Twins, who maybe just got lucky.

     

    No, my logic was there were only a few teams who had the immediate need for Abreu, so there wasn't much of a bidding war, and it didn't include the big pocket teams, no matter how you spin it, this was a major miss.  And nobody should have missed that Abreu's numbers in Cuba were comparable or better than the guys who had already succeeded at the major league level.

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    I guess I'm not smart enough to do the analysis on these moves, but I'm left comforted by one thing: It does seem that pretty much every offseason the Bitch Sox make big moves for big players and spend big money. yet they seldom seem to win a lot of games when those players take the field.

     

    As Thrylos alluded to, the Twins and Sox simply have very different approaches to assembling a roster. The Twins primarily build from within and the Sox act like they want to be the Yankees, but on a much lesser budget.

     

    Anyone who expects the Twins to act more like the White Sox in the offseason simply is frustrating himself/herself. It won't happen. It's not how the Twins put together a roster. And, as frustrating as I admit that is at times, I can't say there's much evidence to support the Sox' way of doing things is any more likely to generate success on the field.

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    We should also mention that the White Sox were horrible defensively last year, which is a theme most have been very critical about the Twins for.  Fangraphs has them below the Twins actually, and they have only added Laroche, who is not a good defender no matter where they play him at 35.

     

    http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=fld&lg=all&qual=0&type=1&season=2014&month=0&season1=2014&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=23,d

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    I guess I'm not smart enough to do the analysis on these moves, but I'm left comforted by one thing: It does seem that pretty much every offseason the Bitch Sox make big moves for big players and spend big money. yet they seldom seem to win a lot of games when those players take the field.

     

    As Thrylos alluded to, the Twins and Sox simply have very different approaches to assembling a roster. The Twins primarily build from within and the Sox act like they want to be the Yankees, but on a much lesser budget.

     

    Anyone who expects the Twins to act more like the White Sox in the offseason simply is frustrating himself/herself. It won't happen. It's not how the Twins put together a roster. And, as frustrating as I admit that is at times, I can't say there's much evidence to support the Sox' way of doing things is any more likely to generate success on the field.

     

    Yes, they are still the White Sox.  They don't care about defense and have historically not cared much for OBP. I think the Jeff S. move has a ton of risk and I will never support a $50M dollar closer.

     

    It won't get headlines, but on top of the $50M they gave Robertson, they gave up a second round pick.  The Twins used their second round pick on a guy that will probably close for 4-6 years here and will make about $15M over that stretch doing so.

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    Yes, they are still the White Sox.  They don't care about defense and have historically not cared much for OBP. I think the Jeff S. move has a ton of risk and I will never support a $50M dollar closer.

     

    It won't get headlines, but on top of the $50M they gave Robertson, they gave up a second round pick.  The Twins used their second round pick on a guy that will probably close for 4-6 years here and will make about $15M over that stretch doing so.

     

    Watching all these moves made early in a pretty aggressive manner reminds me of Beane's moves during the season.  However, I feel like I can usually see the logic behind some of his moves, even if they're risky.

     

    I can't say the same for the Sox in this case.  Will it improve them? Yes. Do they have a bright future? Yes (and adding Rodon to the mix soon will make the pitching top-notch).  That said, they're giving up a lot of money, and a lot of lottery tickets (picks, prospects) for middling upgrades.  I say middling not because they're bad players, but because the total benefit:cost ratio isn't the best. Closer or not, I'd rather not invest like that in relievers, and dealing prospects for a rental wouldn't be my approach to climbing out of the cellar.

     

    Then again, my opinions are probably skewed by being a bitter Twins fan who wants to see the Sox in a state of continual dumpster fire.

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    I think that would be a mistake on your part.  Both Duke and Robertson were high leverage performers familiar with pennant races.  Further, you glaringly glossed over the relative performances here-

     

    Petricka  ERA 2.96 FIP 3.60 xFIP 3.76    K/9   6.78

    Putnam  ERA 1.98 FIP 3.08 xFIP 3.64     K/9   7.57

    Duke      ERA 2.49 FIP 2.14 xFIP 2.09     K/9 11.35

    Robtsn.  ERA 3.08 FIP 2.65 xFIP 2.13     K/9 13.43 

     

    And remember, Duke and Robertson are likely replacing big innings from guys who had negative value in 2014.

     

    Yeah, it certainly looks like they're taking the Royals lead and adding flamethrowers throught the pen and doing their best to get them in the rotation also.  Only Perkins can hold a candle to the butt kicking these teams will bring in the later innings.  That is, only the healthy Perkins.

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    Watching all these moves made early in a pretty aggressive manner reminds me of Beane's moves during the season.  However, I feel like I can usually see the logic behind some of his moves, even if they're risky.

     

    I can't say the same for the Sox in this case.  Will it improve them? Yes. Do they have a bright future? Yes (and adding Rodon to the mix soon will make the pitching top-notch).  That said, they're giving up a lot of money, and a lot of lottery tickets (picks, prospects) for middling upgrades.  I say middling not because they're bad players, but because the total benefit:cost ratio isn't the best. Closer or not, I'd rather not invest like that in relievers, and dealing prospects for a rental wouldn't be my approach to climbing out of the cellar.

     

    Then again, my opinions are probably skewed by being a bitter Twins fan who wants to see the Sox in a state of continual dumpster fire.

     

    With the Duke and Robertson signings, plus their alleged continuing pursuit of Gregerson,  the Sox are trying to emphatically answer what the Royals did, and buying a high-quality pen.  

     

    I am also guessing that the Sox are betting that, given they are Shark's hometown team, he won't just be a rental.  If every one of these high-priced pitching deals work out, plus at least two of Rodon, Montas, Adams and Danish really blossoming, the Sox might have the best pitching staff in the AL Central for a few years.

     

    (When you're going to go after "hometown" boys, I much prefer bringing home Shark and Gregerson to Hunter and Guerrier).

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    Watching all these moves made early in a pretty aggressive manner reminds me of Beane's moves during the season.  However, I feel like I can usually see the logic behind some of his moves, even if they're risky.

     

    I can't say the same for the Sox in this case.  Will it improve them? Yes. Do they have a bright future? Yes (and adding Rodon to the mix soon will make the pitching top-notch).  That said, they're giving up a lot of money, and a lot of lottery tickets (picks, prospects) for middling upgrades.  I say middling not because they're bad players, but because the total benefit:cost ratio isn't the best. Closer or not, I'd rather not invest like that in relievers, and dealing prospects for a rental wouldn't be my approach to climbing out of the cellar.

     

    Then again, my opinions are probably skewed by being a bitter Twins fan who wants to see the Sox in a state of continual dumpster fire.

     

    I agree....look at the four moves in isolation.

     

    -Traded for a 30 year old closer and gave him $46M over four years, giving a 2nd round pick in the process (a low second round pick to boot).

     

    -Spent $25M over two years for a 35 year old 1B/DH type that has a career OPS of .811.  Career OBP is .340, coming off a career high .362

     

    -Traded 3 young players/prospects for a 30 year old pitcher that is one year away from a large payday.  Truly a buy high move.  The next move is probably to throw $100M at him, basically been good for two or three years.  Career numbers are rather pedestrian (ERA + of 101). 

     

    -Signed a set up guy for $5M dollars a year for three years.  Coming off a great year.  Basically has not been good since he was a rookie in 2006 (prior to this year).  4.46 career ERA.

     

    These are not the type of moves that sustain winning over any length of time. Each has a ton of risk.  Classic White Sox.  I get the feeling of feeling left out.  But over time I think we should be glad we don't make these type of moves.

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