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    Tom Froemming

    Earlier today, MLB.com released a list of each team’s fan base’s favorite nemesis -- the player who gets under their skin, who they love to hate. The guy selected for the Twins? A.J. Pierzynski.

    Uh ... come again?

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    I’m not sure what methodology they used for this article, but here’s how they led into the conversation:

    “For every Major League fan base, there are certain rival players who incite an uncommon level of animosity.

    Whether it’s because they consistently excel, because they’ve done something controversial or because of how they carry themselves, some players have a knack for getting under an entire fan base’s skin, and the bad blood can carry on for years or even decades.

    These are the players each team's fans love to hate.”

    There’s no way A.J. is the favorite nemesis of Twins fans. Maybe I’m way off base here, but I’d be surprised if any Twins fans would list him atop the opposing players who most got under their skin or who they most loved to hate.

    Yes, as an opposing player with the White Sox he was obnoxious, but he provided some memorable moments during his time in Minnesota. What’s the most-recent display of late-inning postseason heroics in Twins history? This bomba by Pierzynski, which effectively sunk the Moneyball Oakland A’s in Game 5 of the 2002 ALDS:

    Boo this man? More like buy this man a beer!

    The A’s get an entire damn book written about them and A.J. somehow gets saddled with being labeled as the guy Twins fans love to boo? Get outta here with that junk. I love A.J. Pierzynski. There, I said it. I’ll shout it from the top of Buck Hill if I have to!!! :)

    If not A.J., then who really is the player Twins fans love to hate? My answer is below, but I can’t speak on behalf of all of Twins Territory. Please let me know your favorite player to boo in the comments. Pause and think about it for a moment. We need a legit answer to this question, and what better way to settle this than an informal poll in the Twins Daily forums?

    My pick: Derek Jeter

    That’s right, The Captain gets no Re2pect from me. What’s to hate? The fact he was such a central figure on the Yankees during the time they authored so much Twins pain is definitely the biggest motivating factor.

    It’s easy to hate the players who crush your dreams.

    Jeter and the Yankees bounced the Twins from the postseason four times, and he was 20-for-57 (.351) with three home runs in the 14 playoff games he played against them. Jeets also beat up the Twins in the regular season, of course. In 604 plate appearances against Minnesota, Jeter hit .323/.384/.465 (.849).

    This may seem unfair, considering it’s out of Jeter’s control, but the way he was covered his entire career was also nauseating. I think he’s the most overrated player of my lifetime. That’s not to say he wasn’t a great ballplayer, you still have to be very good to be overrated.

    Still, the way the national media swooned over every little thing he did was excruciating. Among the worst defensive shortstops of his generation, Jeter still boasts five Gold Gloves to his credit thanks to writers getting it wrong.

    Baseball media swooned over everything he did. Everything he did made me wanna vomit.

    But to be completely honest, had Jeter played for another team he probably wouldn’t even crack my top-50 most hated players. The fact that he’s smothered in Yankee scum has so much to do with why I loved rooting against him.

    But, again, I can’t speak on behalf of Twins Territory. There’s no shortage of other options out there, who’s the player you love to hate?

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    Easy one - Ron Davis.  I think at one point he was tied for most blown saves in a season.  Opposing teams must have loved him.  In 1984 he managed to lose games in creative ways too.  I remember one game when a thunderstorm partially deflated the Dome.  The Twins were sailing along with a huge lead.  Davis was either already pitching before the interruption or came in after the Dome re-inflated.  Doesn't matter.  After the game continued he managed to totally blow the huge lead we had and the Twins lost.  What matters more - Davis was my 8 year old daughter's favorite player.  She stoically watched him until he gave up enough runs for the Twins to lose the lead.  Then she cried.  And he became my least liked player forever.

    One nitpick. The deflation game was in 1986. I was there. Bizarre and deflating for the fans, in more ways than one.

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    That was a beautiful quote.  AJ should be in the Twins HOF for his good play and for getting Nathan, Liriano and Bonzer while making room for Mauer to play. Also, great pick with Sabbathia.   Anyone that says "Man up and swing the bat" at guys that bunt and then throws at their head because he either can't or doesn't want to man up and field his own d@#$ position gets no respect from me.       David Ortiz for constantly dissing the Twins.   I thought he was a good hitter for the Twins and what he learned from them may have launched his career but all he did was throw shade.  I've never cared one way or another about the Yankees but I have always hated the White Sox.   Oddly, Crede, Konerko and Thome were guys I really liked.   Really class guys.    Didn't care for Mark Buehrle.     Maybe at the top of my list is Tommy Kerr.   He could have been really good with the Twins but instead was just a complete d()()che.

    I definitely thought about Tommy Herr, that was a terrible trade; Brunansky for Herr.  Another one that irritated me was John Smiley, he could have been good for the Twins in 92 but then was gone.

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    I definitely thought about Tommy Herr, that was a terrible trade; Brunansky for Herr.  Another one that irritated me was John Smiley, he could have been good for the Twins in 92 but then was gone.

    Smiley pitched very well in 1992, but I believe I read or heard that, for whatever reason, he hated being here. Hence his departure.

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    Smiley pitched very well in 1992, but I believe I read or heard that, for whatever reason, he hated being here. Hence his departure.

    Yeah, I think that was about the same thing with Tommy Herr.

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    I definitely thought about Tommy Herr, that was a terrible trade; Brunansky for Herr.  Another one that irritated me was John Smiley, he could have been good for the Twins in 92 but then was gone.

    I thought it was a good trade at the time.   Lombo was batting .209 and Herr was a decent hitter.   Herr's attitude made it a horrible trade in retrospect.   Then we were stuck with Wally Backman. 

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    I can't believe no one has said it yet. It's probably because we are the small sliver of the fan base that did not feel this way, but the correct answer is...

     

    Joe Mauer

     

    It makes me sad that Joe is the answer to this question, but he is. It seems the plurality of Twins fans could talk about nothing else regarding the Twins during the dog years of the 2010's except how they were terrible because of the Joe Mauer contract. How he was not worth the money, as if he took it from them himself without asking.

     

    I have never noticed a player the Twins general fan base absolutely loves to hate.

     

    In fact, if I sat down at a bar outside of Twins Territory and started chatting with a complete stranger about MLB history and brought up Joe Mauer, I would describe him exactly like this...

     

    "He was one of the five best players to ever wear a Twins uniform. I loved him. Most Twins fans loved-to-hate him. I still don't really understand why."

    I think the general fan base did love him.    It wasn't a sliver of minority that hated him but a minority none the less.    It definitely included everyone that demanded his contract be extended or they would never follow the Twins again who then shortly and for evermore after claimed they were against the congtract to start with.    The name that surprises me by its absence is Nicky Punto.

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    I thought it was a good trade at the time.   Lombo was batting .209 and Herr was a decent hitter.   Herr's attitude made it a horrible trade in retrospect.   Then we were stuck with Wally Backman. 

    The capper was whom we then flipped Herr for. We gave up Bruno for a year of a disgruntled Herr plus Shane Flippin Rawley's bad awful no good career ending season.

     

    I'm not consoled by Bruno's post-Twins career being no great shakes. He was Bruno!

     

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    To risk opening this rat's nest again: Trevor Bauer.

     

    Why hate on Bauer? As long as Max is at the plate I think he should be our favorite opposing pitcher.

     

    My pick: I. Can't. Stand. Puig.

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    2 words - Ricky Nolasco. I still dislike him greatly.

    I disliked the regime that gave him that contract more than Nolasco himself. He was the exact same pitcher that had an ERA 2 runs higher than his FIP throughout his tenure here. Signing him to that contract provided unrealistic expectations for him to be better than he was.

     

    With all of that being said, I was thrilled the minute he was traded away.

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    I was extremely jealous of Mark Buerhle. That dude was a Twins Killer.

     

    52 starts - 30-19 record with a 3.68 ERA and 6 complete games career against the Twins.

     

    If you blinked during a Buerhle start it was already the 7th inning.

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