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    Parker Hageman

    After weeks of uncertainty, the Minnesota Twins’ front office is starting to materialize.

    The Twins announced the hiring of Derek Falvey as the Vice President and Chief Baseball Officer at the beginning of October but the role of General Manager remained vacant. Now, according to multiple reports, the Twins appear on the verge of hiring Thad Levine as just the sixth General Manager since relocating to Minnesota.

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    As Falvey’s Cleveland Indians trounced the Chicago Cubs in the first game of the 2016 World Series, the Star Tribune’s Lavelle Neal broke the news that Levine has “emerged as a candidate” to fill the GM position. Shortly thereafter, Dallas Morning News’ Rangers beat writer Evan Grant tweeted, confirming the Star Tribune report that Levine is expected to join the Twins.

    Levine is an interesting balance to Falvey’s background from Cleveland’s analytical-oriented front office.

    Since coming into baseball with the Colorado Rockies, the 44-year-old Levine has spent 11 seasons with the Texas Rangers in the Assistant General Manager’s position, overseeing the statistical analysis among other things for the team. The Rangers, however, are far from front-runners in baseball’s analytics game: According to an informal 2015 ESPN report, the Rangers fell towards the bottom of the league as an organization that eschews statistical analysis (although ahead of the Twins) and opted for more of the standard scouting practice.

    Meanwhile, in a 2014 Reddit chat, Levine addressed some of those concerns.

    “As a "younger" front office, we used to be younger than we are now, we were considered an analytical group, when in practice, we were much more scouting focused in our decision making,” Levine said. “In the past five years, we have made significant investments in analytics both in people and systems.”

    It’s hard to completely judge an organization’s analytical strengths or how much they have grown but, as it stands today, the Rangers have three people listed on their front office who appear dedicated to analytics, including Todd Slavinsky, a University of Minnesota-Morris graduate, as the Director of Baseball Analytics. The Twins, too, have three staffers from their analytics department listed on their front office page, an area they were hoping to grow with the addition of Falvey.

    In a 2011 Washington Post profile on Levine, Levine said that he believed the biggest advantage a team could have is hiring the best talent evaluators. He noted that there were approximately 30-to-50 of these baseball oracles floating around the game and that he was focused on hiring several of them to give his team the upper hand. “The Rangers complement the recommendations from their scouts with statistical analysis, not the other way around,” wrote the Post’s Adam Kilgore.

    In that same Reddit chat, Levine submitted an interesting nugget regarding the methods of the Rangers front office. He said that the team monitors Twitter and occasionally finds inspirations for potential trades.

    “[A]t the trade deadline, we are all on Twitter, because you may be surprised how many trade discussions are inspired or refined by tweets.”

    Levine also said that the front office staff would use all of the publicly available sites such as Fangraphs.com, Baseball-Reference and others to obtain information. This is by no means a bad thing, however you have to believe that while teams like the Rangers are finding that type of info, organizations like the Cubs, Astros and Dodgers are creating their own research firms in-house.

    That said, the Rangers methods have been successful and Levine has been instrumental in some of the talent acquisition that has created the strong American League West dynasty. After all, Texas has made it to the postseason in four of the last six years as well as the World Series twice. In his tenure, the Rangers were able to acquire Mike Napoli, Cliff Lee, Josh Hamilton Carlos Lee, Elvis Andrus, Neftali Feliz, Matt Harrison and Jarrod Saltalamacchia for various pieces of talent.

    “Trades tend to be unique one trade to the next,” Levine commented. “Baseball is all about talent evaluation. Everyone understands the concept of scouting two shortstops. But our jobs also require us to scout each GM. So depending on which GM you are negotiating with, the discussion will go differently.”

    Overall, Levine’s background seems balanced in both the new school and old school mentalities. One of Levine’s purported strengths while with the Rangers was being able to quickly diagnose the team’s in-season weaknesses and respond swiftly. For years the Twins seemed to fail at identifying roster weaknesses, reacting too late or in the wrong way to these issues. If Levine is able to transport that skill from one organization to another, that should be a huge benefit.

    It is no small task rebuilding the Twins, but Thad Levine has been in that position before with the Texas Rangers and has two World Series visits to show for it.

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    At the end of the day, I for one don't know enough about Falvey or Levine to make an overly educated guess as to how good of hires they will ultimately turn out to be. But I have to say I am impressed by their resumes to this point, their past duties performed, the fact they are coming from teams that have been doing things right for the past few years, and the fact that each appears open-minded and young enough to remain as such. It appears to me as though the Twins FO is rather deliberately targeting youth and fresh ideas/thinkers, for which I am excited and grateful.

     

    Though I am not surprised. Based on various comments made earlier in this past season from Ryan and Pohlad, I felt a change was coming. And I felt, again from Pohlad's comments, that the team was going to think and look outside the box for alternatives.

     

    I don't expect overnight miracles, nor should anyone else, but I'm really anxious to see these two guys go to work! Though I suspect, other than a trade of Dozier, possibly Santana, and a small FA signing or two, I think their first real actions will be more behind the scenes and on the milb and scouting side of things.

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    Decent interview from a few years ago. Seems to be "lovable" and funny. States his primary role is contract specialist, but involved all over. Seems blunt and open, and even admired to using various baseball advanced baseball sites for any info they can use. My favorite take was how he and other FO use Twitter via alias names. Here's to him using one of our crazy opinions or ideas, and it working.

     

    I can't even get a single 'like' for posting the link and some nuggets (above) from the interview in the other thread last night that most of this article is based off of;(   

     

    Just teasing- great article, and thanks for all the great content this year.

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    So... Falvey is technically still with Cleveland. Who is it then who is targeting this guy?

    I suspect it's Falvey. I doubt the assistant GM has a full docket during the playoffs.

     

    And he may not even need to hold interviews. He'd been around the league long enough to likely know who he wants to target as his second in command.

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    It will make an interesting time. Will not know for a few years how good they are. Terry Ryan was good at finding talent, development was another issue. Looking forward to the changes they bring to the field organization.

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    Texas is interesting. As an organization, they probably are responsible for initially signing as many players now out there on various rosters as any organization in baseball. The fact that so many of them are on the rosters of other teams now instead of on their own invites questions.

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    Texas is interesting. As an organization, they probably are responsible for initially signing as many players now out there on various rosters as any organization in baseball. The fact that so many of them are on the rosters of other teams now instead of on their own invites questions.

    Not sure I follow that logic.  A team can only carry so many players and if you're right about so many former Texas players being on other teams, that would speak to their ability to discover and develop talent, which would be why teams would want those players to begin with.

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    I suspect it's Falvey. I doubt the assistant GM has a full docket during the playoffs.

    And he may not even need to hold interviews. He'd been around the league long enough to likely know who he wants to target as his second in command.

    In regards to just selecting a person for one of the top jobs, does baseball have an equivalent to NFL's Rooney rule yet?

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    Decent interview from a few years ago. Seems to be "lovable" and funny. States his primary role is contract specialist, but involved all over. Seems blunt and open, and even admired to using various baseball advanced baseball sites for any info they can use. My favorite take was how he and other FO use Twitter via alias names. Here's to him using one of our crazy opinions or ideas, and it working.

     

    I can't even get a single 'like' for posting the link and some nuggets (above) from the interview in the other thread last night that most of this article is based off of;(   

     

    Just teasing- great article, and thanks for all the great content this year.

    Yes, that was a charity like I gave you (since you were groveling.)  :)

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    Levine looks like a good steal for the Twins along the lines of the Mike Zimmer steal by the Vikings.  He looks to me like he should have been a GM a long time ago.  

     

    The Twins seem to be on the right path.  

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    I haven't gotten past "Thad".  First Derek and now Thad.  They certainly sound like they can pull off the business casual dress shirt/no tie look, which means they can make analytics "cool," which is a good start, I guess.

     

    I think the next step for these Ivy Leaguers is to start adopting classic, but over-the-top nicknames.  "Chomps" Levine sounds more like a guy who has a foot in both scouting and analytics.  For Falvey, I'll give a shout out to Jack Handey, and suggest the nickname "Wrong-Way Slurps."

     

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    Falvey and Levine are both said to be people persons, but what if they don't get along with each other? And maybe Falvey's final words after accepting the Twins offer was "hire whoever else you want" which would kinda mean St. Peter is the actual PoBO, or maybe Cleveland suddenly reeled Falvey back in and Levine will be the new Twins PoBO? Intrigue!

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    Texas is interesting. As an organization, they probably are responsible for initially signing as many players now out there on various rosters as any organization in baseball. The fact that so many of them are on the rosters of other teams now instead of on their own invites questions.

     

    I might add that the Rangers lineup this year rated 9th in the AL by wRC+ and fWAR, and the pitching rated 14th by FIP/xFIP, 13th by fWAR. Last year they had similar marks, and in 2014 both their lineup and pitching rated last in the league by fWAR. This season, they managed to outpace their Pythag and BaseRuns records by 13 wins, thanks to good luck and, maybe, strong defense, but they're probably on their way down the ladder next year.

     

    That said, they did win a couple of pennants while Levine was AGM under Jon Daniels; he's been part of an operation that nearly won it all, 5-6 years ago.

     

    His bio at the Rangers' site says, "He assists General Manager Jon Daniels in all Major League Operations responsibilities, including player acquisitions, roster composition, contract negotiations, statistical and financial analyses and the day-to-day management of the baseball operations department." Most of his background appears to be in business administration and marketing--I would guess that his main responsibilities might continue to be in those areas. Negotiating contracts, managing day-to-day operations. Whether he has anything close to final authority, or even a lot of sway, in decisions about acquisitions and personnel, we may never know.

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    Not sure I follow that logic.  A team can only carry so many players and if you're right about so many former Texas players being on other teams, that would speak to their ability to discover and develop talent, which would be why teams would want those players to begin with.

     

    Yeah, I think it probably speaks to their ability to discover and develop talent. WIthout examining it in more detail, one would wonder if they didn't let some serious talent get away. In my quick glance through American League rosters, only Seattle has more forme players occupying spots on someone else's 40-man. At least Texas has stayed competitive, so maybe their track record on trades of these players isn't so bad, I don't know. It's just one thing I'd check out if I were hiring from within their org.

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    All I know is, if a management team can turn someone like Josh Hamilton around, don't hesitate to hire them.

     

    The Rangers have made mistakes, yes.  We all have.  But unlike the Twins, they don't wallow in the muck that the mistakes made for years at a time.  The whole "oh that move was a mistake, so I'd better not make other moves ... maybe if we just wait another year that mistake will fix itself" is ridiculous and hopefully the Twins can retire that mindset forever.

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    And the hiring of Levine as SVP/GM confirmed by the Twins this morning.

     

    It will be good to see what happens, it was time for change. It should, at least, lead to some good theater.*

     

    *I hope that doesn't sound cold, I know some people will lose jobs in this transition, and that sucks.

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