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    Seth Stohs

    While much of the Twins 25-man roster might be pretty well set, there are a few position battles of note. As spring training rolls along, some of them will become more clear. It’s also possible that others could create additional position battles. We’ll certainly be covering those through the spring.

    One of those position battles that we’ll likely hear a lot about is the backup catcher position. Jason Castro will be the starter, and he will likely start between 110 and 125 games. So who will start the other 35 to 55 games?

    Image courtesy of Kim Klement, USA Today (photos of John Ryan Murphy, Chris Gimenez, Mitch Garver)

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    There are three catchers vying for the backup catcher spot, so let’s consider the pros and cons of each.

    CHRIS GIMENEZ

    Let’s start with the most veteran of the group, Chris Gimenez. Thad Levine and Derek Falvey spoke a lot about wanting more veteran leadership on the roster. Gimenez is 34 and has spent parts of the past eight seasons in the big leagues. Over the last three years, he has played for Texas and Cleveland, meaning that Falvey and Levine are very familiar with him.

    In 684 career at-bats, he has hit .218/.297/.335 (.632). The 68 games he played for Cleveland was his career high despite hitting just .216/.272/.331 (.602). While Gimenez is really the definition of a replacement player, he certainly has some intangibles beyond the leadership qualities. Paul Molitor has said that Gimenez will likely play the corner infield and maybe the corner outfield positions this spring. Last year, he played first base and third base, along with catcher. He DHd a few games, and he even pitched twice.

    Behind the plate, he is solid. He has thrown out 28% of would-be base-stealers in his career, and 29% last year. His pitch framing should be considered about average.

    Since Gimenez was signed in January to a minor league deal, he can be sent to Rochester to start the season. It is uncertain if Gimenez has an opt-out in his contract.

    JOHN RYAN MURPHY

    Murphy is the incumbent, at least in a way. After coming to the Twins in an offseason trade from the Yankees, Murphy was handed the backup spot a year ago. For many - yours truly included - the assumption was that over time Murphy would gain more playing time. Instead he was back in AAA a month into the season. And things didn’t go real well for him in Rochester either. He came back in September and did a little better.

    Murphy is 25 years old. He has spent parts of four seasons in the big leagues. Before last year, he was the backup to Brian McCann with the Yankees. In his career (344 at-bats), he has hit .238/.283/.337 (.620). However, before he hit .146/.193/.221 (.413) for the Twins last year, he had hit .267/.311/.374 (.685). In 2015, he played in 67 games for the Yankees and hit .277/.327/.406 (.734) as a 24-year-old. That’s a lot of triple-slash lines, but the purpose is to show that there is plenty of reason to believe that Murphy can and will hit some in the big leagues.

    Murphy is a quality defensive catcher. He is a good pitch framer, and he has a strong arm. In his career, he has thrown out 30% of would-be base-stealers.

    Murphy is on the 40-man roster. He also has one option remaining.

    MITCH GARVER

    Garver has worked his way up the Twins farm system since the team drafted him in the ninth round in 2013. And “worked” is the correct word. He was the Twins Daily Minor League Hitter of the Year in 2014 when he played for the Kernels. In 2015, he spent the season in Ft. Myers with the Miracle. He began 2016 in big league camp as a non-roster invite to spring training.

    While he has continued to get stronger and work on his offensive game, Garver has made his biggest strides defensively. He has gone from what some called below average defensively to now being considered an above average defensive backstop. That was very clear in 2016 when he split the season between AA Chattanooga and AAA Rochester. He was one of the best in minor league baseball in pitch framing, and he threw out 48% of would-be base-stealers. He’s always had a strong arm, having thrown out 38% in his minor league career.

    He might be the best combination of offense and defense of the group. In 95 games at AA last year, he hit .257/.334/.419 (.753) with 25 doubles and 11 home runs. He ended the season with 25 games in Rochester where he hit .329/.381/.434 (.815) with five doubles and a homer.

    Garver can also give the Twins some versatility. In 2016, he caught 60 games and played first base 16 times. Because of his bat, he was in the DH spot in most other games.

    There are a few things that he has going against him in this competition. First, he has zero MLB at-bats at this point, and one could say that he has just 25 games in AAA. He was just added to the Twins 40-man roster in November. So he has all three option years remaining.

    SUMMARY

    Nothing can be made of what we’ve seen so far in spring training games. Garver and Murphy have five plate appearances, and Gimenez has three. Murphy and Gimenez have each made one start behind the plate. Garver hasn’t, but he has played in three of the games to just two for Murphy and Gimenez.

    There is a lot of spring training remaining, and all three should get a lot of opportunities to play. All three have a legitimate opportunity to make the Opening Day roster, at least I would think and hope they would. It may come down to the end.

    So, what factors do you think will help Paul Molitor and the front office decide who will make the Opening Day roster? How would you rank the likelihood of each option?

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      On 3/9/2017 at 8:25 PM, Thrylos said:

    Not bad; however Castro is a treadable asset and at the point that the Twins decide they can have Garver at 100%, they should trade Castro for controllable pitching or Garver's replacement in 5 years...   That can happen in 2018

    Also a possibility down the road.

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      On 3/9/2017 at 7:45 PM, Brock Beauchamp said:

    This is the timeline I'd aim for if I was the Twins:

     

    June-July 2017: Garver gets a call-up, potentially earlier if Murphy is struggling and Garver is playing well.

     

    2018: Garver starts as the back-up catcher, may play more often based on both his and Castro's performance.

     

    2019: Garver begins to take more playing time from Castro, again based on performance.

     

    Castro is elite defensively today and his offense is good enough to play as the full-time catcher. As that changes, Garver can begin taking playing time from him. There's no reason to cut Castro's playing time to a partial role before he's played a single regular season game for the team.

     

    Well, not for Mitch Garver, anyway. The guy looks to have an adequate bat for the position but it's far from overwhelming. As a 25 year old, he posted a .750 OPS in AA over 400 plate appearances. That isn't exactly lighting the world on fire.

     

    An added bonus for putting Murphy out there, finding what he looks like, and gaining an extra year of service time for Garver in the process.

    Well someone aside from Castro is going to get 45 to 50 starts.

    I would give those to Garver. Murphy does nothing for me, neither does another year of service time for a guy already at an age where he will already be controlled through all of his likely productive years.

    What does the data say for 33+ year old catchers who weren't elite in their prime?

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      On 3/9/2017 at 11:50 PM, Mr. Brooks said:

    I would give those to Garver. Murphy does nothing for me

    I think this board suffers too often from "show me newness".

     

    Murphy is actually a few months younger than Garver. He had a comically bad 2016 but was a relatively productive player before that point. He's considered an acceptable defender. Really, Garver and Murphy aren't that different as players.

     

    And Murphy has already burned through options. It makes all the sense in the world to see what you have in the guy who's not going to stick around before you try the guy who has no choice but to stick around for close to a decade.

     

    And it's not as if I'm suggesting Murphy should get a season of play before making a decision. Give him two months to see if 2016 was an aberration or a trend.

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      On 3/10/2017 at 1:40 PM, Brock Beauchamp said:

    I think this board suffers too often from "show me newness".

     

    Murphy is actually a few months younger than Garver. He had a comically bad 2016 but was a relatively productive player before that point. He's considered an acceptable defender. Really, Garver and Murphy aren't that different as players.

     

    And Murphy has already burned through options. It makes all the sense in the world to see what you have in the guy who's not going to stick around before you try the guy who has no choice but to stick around for close to a decade.

     

    And it's not as if I'm suggesting Murphy should get a season of play before making a decision. Give him two months to see if 2016 was an aberration or a trend.

    It's not newness for me, can't speak for others. I wasn't a fan when we acquired him.

    Still, the 12 to 15 starts he's going to see in 2 months is far too small of a sample size to tell us anything at all.

    If the plan is to give JRM another shot, then I think you need to give him a minimum of 200 plate appearances before deciding anything.

    Again, I'd rather give those to Garver, but if the plan is giving Murphy a shot first, then I hope he at least gets a real shot, not 50 or 60 plate appearances.

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      On 3/1/2017 at 5:36 PM, zach.jezierski said:

    I think Mauer has a great shot to be the backup catcher. Move Sano over to first and insert Vargas at third and if the pitching can hold up like it did last year this team has a outstanding shot of winning 80-82 games. 

     

    I disagree.

     

    Slide Vargas over to 2B (it's only one base over) and move Sano back to his natural position of SS. Less pressure on Sano defensively will hopefully carry over and help him relax and excel at the plate.

     

    At 3B, I'd like to see the team go out and sign The Thing. The Thing is solid (he's made out of rock) and a veteran (born 1961), and would provide the solid veteran team presence the FO was looking for in Napoli.

     

    Depending on how ST plays out, I'd like to see Air Bud head north as the backup catcher. I know he's a bit raw and toolsy, but that dog is really good at catching balls and I prefer a defense-first backup catcher. And if our pitchers can start yelling "STAY!" after every pitch, Air Bud should grade out as an at least league-average pitch framer.

     

    In this scenario, Mauer still gets a handful of starts at catcher, because Joe Mauer is a catcher.

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      On 3/10/2017 at 6:01 PM, Ben Noble said:

    I disagree.

     

    Slide Vargas over to 2B (it's only one base over) and move Sano back to his natural position of SS. Less pressure on Sano defensively will hopefully carry over and help him relax and excel at the plate.

     

    At 3B, I'd like to see the team go out and sign The Thing. The Thing is solid (he's made out of rock) and a veteran (born 1961), and would provide the solid veteran team presence the FO was looking for in Napoli.

     

    Depending on how ST plays out, I'd like to see Air Bud head north as the backup catcher. I know he's a bit raw and toolsy, but that dog is really good at catching balls and I prefer a defense-first backup catcher. And if our pitchers can start yelling "STAY!" after every pitch, Air Bud should grade out as an at least league-average pitch framer.

     

    In this scenario, Mauer still gets a handful of starts at catcher, because Joe Mauer is a catcher.

     

    And if the ump blows a call.... Well, Air Bud may retaliate and bite the ump! I love this plan. Also, in honor of National Mario Day, may I suggest adding Baby Mario and making him the closer of the future? He could learn under Matt Belisle until he finds a hidden mushroom that makes him grow 4 feet. 

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      On 3/10/2017 at 6:01 PM, Ben Noble said:

    I disagree.

     

    Slide Vargas over to 2B (it's only one base over) and move Sano back to his natural position of SS. Less pressure on Sano defensively will hopefully carry over and help him relax and excel at the plate.

     

    At 3B, I'd like to see the team go out and sign The Thing. The Thing is solid (he's made out of rock) and a veteran (born 1961), and would provide the solid veteran team presence the FO was looking for in Napoli.

     

    Depending on how ST plays out, I'd like to see Air Bud head north as the backup catcher. I know he's a bit raw and toolsy, but that dog is really good at catching balls and I prefer a defense-first backup catcher. And if our pitchers can start yelling "STAY!" after every pitch, Air Bud should grade out as an at least league-average pitch framer.

     

    In this scenario, Mauer still gets a handful of starts at catcher, because Joe Mauer is a catcher.

     

    I kind of assumed you'd go after the flash.  He'd be one heck of an OF.

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