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    Cody Christie

    Derek Falvey and Thad Levine are in the midst of a pretty good offseason. They’ve rebuilt the bullpen, added a starting pitcher, and bolstered the line-up with a powerful left-handed bat. In fact last week, I wondered if the addition of Logan Morrison might have fixed Minnesota’s biggest flaw.

    It’s under three weeks until Opening Day and the Twins might not be done adding pieces. Is the front office pitching to add some more pitching?

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    Change of Heart?

    When the Twins traded for Jake Odorizzi, the message from the front office was pretty clear. It didn’t sound like the Twins were happy having only Ervin Santana, Jose Berrios and Jake Odorizzi leading the rotation.

    https://twitter.com/DerekWetmore/status/965240120256417793

    Santana will miss the first month of the following surgery on his finger. This means the rotation would currently be rounded out with the likes of Kyle Gibson, Phil Hughes, and Adalberto Mejia. With extra off-days built into the early schedule, the Twins only need a fifth starter a handful of times while Santana is on the DL.

    With some of the best free agent pitchers still unemployed, the Twins front office might have had a change of heart in recent weeks.

    Lowballing Lance Lynn

    Mike Beradino of the Pioneer Press is reporting the Twins made Lance Lynn a 2-year, $20 million deal. This is seems like a lowball offer from Minnesota as the front office continues to try and be “opportunistic.” Beradino makes it sound like the deal didn’t gain any traction and rightfully so if you’re in Lynn’s shoes.

    https://twitter.com/MikeBerardino/status/971148035920158721

    Lynn missed all of 2016 following Tommy John surgery. In his first year back, he had a 3.42 ERA and a 124 ERA+. Those numbers were a little higher than his career 3.38 ERA but that can be expected coming off major elbow surgery. With expected improvements in his second year removed from surgery, Lynn could slide into the back of Minnesota’s rotation and add some depth to the rotation.

    Show Me The Money

    Coming off a playoff appearance, the Twins are currently set to open the year with a club-record $118 million payroll. Minnesota lost out on the Yu Darvish sweepstakes but they were rumored to have offered him a contract worth over $100 million. This could mean the team still has money in the bank to put towards adding other pieces.

    With big contracts from Joe Mauer and Brian Dozier coming off the books, the club has little invested in guaranteed money beyond next season. Phil Hughes, Addison Reed, Michael Pineda and Jason Castro are the only players with guaranteed money for 2019. There is currently no guaranteed money for 2020.

    Obviously, young players like Byron Buxton, Miguel Sano and Jose Berrios will start to get more expensive. Buxton might already be in the beginnings stages of a long-term deal. Young talent is cheap but it doesn’t stay cheap forever.

    Do the Twins need to add another starting pitcher? Will Lynn even negotiate with the Twins after they lowballed him? Leave a COMMENT and start the discussion.

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    Couple points:

    1) While it may seem like a low ball offer, certainly nobody else has offered enough for him to sign as of yet.

    2) Could the offer have been a casual inquiry to feel Lynn and his representation out rather than a "here, take this" offer?

    3) At some point, Lynn, Cobb and Arietta may have to accept lowering their initial demands and expectations, or consider a 1 year deal.

    I guess I'm just saying the FO is at least interested in another addition, but not sure we know enough about all the factors and conversations involved.

    Couldn't agree more.  I think the closer it gets to paychecks being deposited into accounts etc. the remaining pitchers will have to face the facts that teams are no longer going to hand out 5+ year deals like they are candy at a parade.  It will be interesting to see what materializes the next 2 weeks or so.

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    I think a good bet on yourself contract would be nice. 2 year 25 million contract with 3-4 million incentives per season with an option third season with 10 milliin base that goes up with innings pitched and becomes guarenteed at 185 or so.

     

    Having 5 #3 starters in the rotation is a great idea.

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    I think a good bet on yourself contract would be nice. 2 year 25 million contract with 3-4 million incentives per season with an option third season with 10 milliin base that goes up with innings pitched and becomes guarenteed at 185 or so.

     

    Having 5 #3 starters in the rotation is a great idea.

    Lynn is almost 31, if he's going to bet on himself, it would be a 1 year deal. (Or include an opt out after 1 year.)

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    I don't think Lynn is obviously a better option than Mejia.

     

    People might speculate that he is, but there's nothing ever obvious about signing mid-level free agent pitchers and if anyone knows that, it's the Twins. Lynn's repertoire is bad, his peripheral stats are bad and his splits are bad. He's basically good measured on Wins and ERA. I don't trust that moving to a new league and a new team and a new stadium.

     

    Also, if this team is going to be a buyer mid-season, I'd rather save the money for then. They're not going to be able to find room for a Justin Verlander this July if they are already at their max payroll.

    Mejia seems to struggle getting through 5 inn almost every single game he pitches in. He is a mid-4's ERA guy. ERA counts for something, especially with a really good defense behind you. 

     

    If Lynn makes 30 starts and throws 180 inn with an ERA in the low 4's, doesn't that seem to be an improvement over Mejia? I am cheering for Mejia to take the next step-and he very well might. But Lynn is an improvement over Mejia, and might mean 2-3 more wins on the season...which is the difference in getting a wild card bid or not. 

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    The more I think about it, the more I want our Twins to let Gonsalves and Romero compete for the 4 and 5 spots.  Look at it this way. If 2019 is the real year we will expect to go deep into the playoffs, those guys need the year to get hit, get beat, and get better. OJT. Worked for Berrios. So why let the old guys block them? Let the kids play. May will be ready down the road and Santana will be fine in a month or two. 

     

    As a spectator, I'd much rather watch the kids than watch Hughes or Sanchez get shelled.  

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