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  • Twins Game Recap (8/1): Dyson Implodes In Twins Debut


    Andrew Thares

    It seemed as though the Twins were sailing, on their way to their first series sweep since late May. They had a 4-1 lead entering the bottom of the ninth, with freshly acquired Sam Dyson coming onto the mound for what appeared was going to be an easy save against one of the worst hitting teams in the major leagues. That wasn’t the case, and when all was said and done, it was the Marlins who walked away with the victory.

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    Box Score

    Pineda: 6.0 IP, 7 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 72.5% strikes (58 of 80 pitches)

    Home Runs: Kepler (30)

    Multi-Hit Games: Kepler (2 for 6, HR), Buxton (2 for 5)

    WPA of +0.1: Buxton .249, Pineda .175, Harper .123,

    WPA of -0.1: Dyson -.448, -.254,

    Max Kepler gave the Twins a quick 1-0 lead, blasting the fourth pitch of the game over the fence in right field. It was already Kepler’s 30th home run of the season, 10 more than his previous career high he set last year.

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    The Marlins were able to get that run back thanks to an RBI-triple from Miami outfielder Harold Ramirez. Byron Buxton gave it his best effort tracking the ball down in the right-centerfield gap, but it was just out of his reach. Michael Pineda did do a good job of preventing the Marlins from adding any more runs, as he got Cesar Puello to strike out, followed by an intentional walk of Bryan Holaday, to bring up Marlins pitcher Jordan Yamamoto, who Pineda got to ground out to end the inning.

    The Twins used some clever managing to help them put up a crooked inning in the top of the fourth. Eddie Rosario led off the inning with a strikeout, before Miguel Sano lined a double to left-field. That was followed by a Jason Castro strikeout and an Ehrie Adrianza hit-by-pitch. Here is where the clever move by Rocco Baldelli came into play. With two-outs and two runners on base, and the pitcher’s spot on deck, this was a prime situation for the Marlins to intentionally walk Byron Buxton. However, Baldelli sent Mitch Garver into the on-deck circle to signify that he was going to hit for Michale Pineda, even though it was only the fourth inning. The strategy worked, as the Marlins decided to pitch to Buxton, who promptly pulled a double that caught the chalk down the third base line, bringing both Sano and Adrianza around to score.

    Some great base running by Luis Arraez helped the Twins extend their lead in the top of the fifth. After reaching base with a one-out single, Arraez advanced to third on some gutsy base running after Jorge Polanco lined a hit to left field. Arraez then came in to score the Twins' fourth run of the game on a sac-fly from Eddie Rosario.

    Michael Pineda finished off yet another quality start today, after going six-innings and giving up just the one run in the second. Dating back to the beginning of May, Pineda has a 3.48 ERA across 88 innings pitched. Over that time he has 10 quality starts, and has gone at least five innings while allowing three ER or less in 14 of those 15 starts.

    Things were going as planned for the Twins through the later innings. Both Tyler Duffey and Sergio Romo worked scoreless innings, keeping the Twins lead of 4-1 heading into the bottom of the ninth. With Taylor Rogers having pitched in each of the last two ballgames, Rocco Baldelli was trying to avoid using him for the third day in a row to pick up the save. Instead, he chose to go with brand new Minnesota Twin, Sam Dyson, who had just arrived in at the ballpark about an hour or so after the game had started. Dyson came in, and proceeded to go walk, single, double, walk. Baldelli quickly got Rogers up and loose. He had to come in and protect what was now a two-run lead, with the bases loaded and nobody out. After Neil Walker singled up the middle to tie the game, Rogers was in even deeper trouble. However, Rogers did exactly what a relief ace is supposed to do and struck out the side to send the game to extra innings.

    The Twins hitters went dead quiet in extra innings, as not a single batter reached base in the 10th, 11th or 12th innings. Max Kepler put up a great 14 pitch at-bat in the 12th, and hit a deep drive into corner in right, but it was not enough, as it was caught on the warning track. This inability to get some big hits in extra innings came back to bite them, as Harold Ramirez connected on a Cody Stashak fastball to lead off the bottom of 12th and just like that the game was over.

    Bullpen Usage

    Here’s a quick look at the number of pitches thrown by the bullpen over the past five days:

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    For the love of God stop taking starting pitchers out when they're cruising along and they have 80-85 pitches thrown. Pineda. 80 pitches thrown and was cruising...taken out after the 6th. Berrios last night. 81 pitches thrown and was strong through 7...taken out and the guy in the pen gives up a grand slam. Stop babying these guys. 

     

    These are National League games. In both instances, they were taken out because their spot in the lineup came up and they were pinch hit for. I think every other manager in the league would make the same decision. I'm also willing to bet that Rocco would've left both of them in if it was an American League game.

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    Sam Dyson is a grown ass man who I'm sure is very capable of jumping on a plane and pitching the same day... My God. It's just a bad game. It wasn't a managerial failure, they didn't put him in an impossible circumstance.

    Worth repeating.

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    I don't think anyone said impossible but parachuting a guy in who didn't even know where his locker was before he was handed the ball, is less than normal circumstances. I concede it's classic hindsight, second guessing, but it just seemed a bit unnecessarily forced.

    I'm guessing Rocco doesn't have much faith in anyone except Rogers (rightfully so), and didn't want to watch his bullpen blow a game while his brand new good reliever is just sitting there watching it happen.

     

    Of course, because baseball is weird, his brand new good reliever melted down instead.

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    Sam Dyson is a grown ass man who I'm sure is very capable of jumping on a plane and pitching the same day... My God. It's just a bad game. It wasn't a managerial failure, they didn't put him in an impossible circumstance.

    I disagree. I wont explain again because I posted before. If Rocco was so worried about Rodgers he would of never brought him in to bail Dyson out. One more note, if they wanted to use him to just use him than have him pitch in the 7th or 8th which is why he was brought over.

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    These are National League games. In both instances, they were taken out because their spot in the lineup came up and they were pinch hit for. I think every other manager in the league would make the same decision. I'm also willing to bet that Rocco would've left both of them in if it was an American League game.

    He has pulled pitchers quite often with mid 80s pitch counts. I would be curious what the actual stat is.

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    I disagree. I wont explain again because I posted before. If Rocco was so worried about Rodgers he would of never brought him in to bail Dyson out. One more note, if they wanted to use him to just use him than have him pitch in the 7th or 8th which is why he was brought over.

    They didn't want to use him "just to use him". This is exactly how they wanted to use him. This situation is EXACTLY why they acquired him.

     

    Rocco brought in Rogers because, once again, he was left little choice. And it almost worked. Nobody else on our roster extends the game to extras. If the bats hadn't mailed it in after the 9th (or if Polanco isn't afraid to get his uniform dirty), we probably win this game despite the Dyson meltdown.

     

    Baldelli was really hoping he wouldn't need Rogers today. And he shouldn't have needed him. A 3 run lead in the 9th against a hilariously feeble offense should be a stone cold lock.

     

    I can't believe people are ripping Baldelli. I feel bad for him. He has one reliever he can trust. All the bullpen moves that look weird or bad on first glance, are directly rooted in that basic premise.

     

    Where I will agree that he's wide open to criticism is that he's being a bit contradictory when he pulls his starters at 80 pitches.

     

    Resting them for the long haul is a great luxury in theory, but a luxury we don't have right now.

    You can't trust any lead, at any point, to any opponent with this bullpen right now.

     

    They have to really hope that they get May figured out, or that someone like Graterol can come up and be a phenom out of the pen, or something. Because I don't know how long this high wire act can be sustained. Certainly (IMO) not through the playoffs.

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    Worst Twins debut ever? Certainly in the conversation.

     

    No second-guessing here, Dyson just didn't do his job. End of story. KC is next, Twins should be playing for a sweep. Wonder when CJ Cron is going to get back. The offense is HR or bust and has looked underwhelming in recent weeks.

     

    Miguel Sano has certainly returned to form. He's hitting the ball as well as he ever has in his MLB career right now.

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    They didn't want to use him "just to use him". This is exactly how they wanted to use him. This situation is EXACTLY why they acquired him.

     

    Rocco brought in Rogers because, once again, he was left little choice. And it almost worked. Nobody else on our roster extends the game to extras. If the bats hadn't mailed it in after the 9th (or if Polanco isn't afraid to get his uniform dirty), we probably win this game despite the Dyson meltdown.

     

    Baldelli was really hoping he wouldn't need Rogers today. And he shouldn't have needed him. A 3 run lead in the 9th against a hilariously feeble offense should be a stone cold lock.

     

    I can't believe people are ripping Baldelli. I feel bad for him. He has one reliever he can trust. All the bullpen moves that look weird or bad on first glance, are directly rooted in that basic premise.

     

    Where I will agree that he's wide open to criticism is that he's being a bit contradictory when he pulls his starters at 80 pitches.

     

    Resting them for the long haul is a great luxury in theory, but a luxury we don't have right now.

    You can't trust any lead, at any point, to any opponent with this bullpen right now.

     

    They have to really hope that they get May figured out, or that someone like Graterol can come up and be a phenom out of the pen, or something. Because I don't know how long this high wire act can be sustained. Certainly (IMO) not through the playoffs.

    Good post. I disagree with bringing him in the 9th but a good post.

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    Worst Twins debut ever? Certainly in the conversation.

     

    No second-guessing here, Dyson just didn't do his job. End of story. KC is next, Twins should be playing for a sweep. Wonder when CJ Cron is going to get back. The offense is HR or bust and has looked underwhelming in recent weeks.

     

    Miguel Sano has certainly returned to form. He's hitting the ball as well as he ever has in his MLB career right now.

    Sano is hitting the ball well except when the bases are loaded. Just like the rest of the lineup.

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    Worst Twins debut ever? Certainly in the conversation.

     

    No second-guessing here, Dyson just didn't do his job. End of story. KC is next, Twins should be playing for a sweep. Wonder when CJ Cron is going to get back. The offense is HR or bust and has looked underwhelming in recent weeks.

     

    Miguel Sano has certainly returned to form. He's hitting the ball as well as he ever has in his MLB career right now.

    I see the Royals playing us really tough in a place that we struggle in: Target Field. Seems like we play a lot better on the road for some reason. After this loss, I see the Royals taking 2 out of 3 against us, especially with Perez pitching the first game. 

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    Has anyone looked up the Twins offensive stats in extra innings this year? They've got to be ugly.

    I hadn't, but it's a good question, and unfortunately there's an illuminating answer available at baseball-reference.com

     

    https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/split.cgi?t=b&lg=MLB&year=2019#all_innng

     

    MLB-wide, extra inning OPS isn't too out of line with other innings. (The 9th is markedly low, and there are probably good reasons for that, going beyond the word "closer".)

     

    https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/split.cgi?t=b&team=MIN&year=2019#all_innng

     

    Our 2019 Twins have an extra inning OPS of .602, going into today's game. The ninth inning isn't aces either, at .683. I needn't tell you, this is lower than any other inning.

     

    It's small sample size territory (106 PA in extras), but not comforting. We go from above average offense to below average, after eight. Time for some soul searching for our batters, and probably the batting coach as well.

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    I hadn't, but it's a good question, and unfortunately there's an illuminating answer available at baseball-reference.com

     

    https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/split.cgi?t=b&lg=MLB&year=2019#all_innng

     

    MLB-wide, extra inning OPS isn't too out of line with other innings. (The 9th is markedly low, and there are probably good reasons for that, going beyond the word "closer".)

     

    https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/split.cgi?t=b&team=MIN&year=2019#all_innng

     

    Our 2019 Twins have an extra inning OPS of .602, going into today's game. The ninth inning isn't aces either, at .683.

     

    It's small sample size territory (106 PA in extras), but not comforting. We go from above average offense to below average, after eight. Time for some soul searching for our batters, and probably the batting coach as well.

    That, combined with their bases loaded struggles, makes me worry that they don't handle pressure well.

    I really hope that's not the case, and it's just SSS noise, because we're going to need this offense to shine in the playoffs.

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    Sam Dyson is a grown ass man who I'm sure is very capable of jumping on a plane and pitching the same day...

     

    It's my understanding our players prepare for the games by studying their opponents...tendencies, weaknesses, strengths... and pro ball requires more work than just showing up and throwing. 

     

    Unless Dyson spent his plane ride watching video and studying Miami batters, he wasn't prepared and shouldn't have been playing. 

     

    Or maybe all that talk about analytics and film study is BS and the players actually spend their pre-game playing cards and getting pedicures. In that case, grown-ass man just had a bad day. 

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    That, combined with their bases loaded struggles, makes me worry that they don't handle pressure well.

    I really hope that's not the case, and it's just SSS noise, because we're going to need this offense to shine in the playoffs.

    Handling pressure well can come from multiple directions. I resist the easy interpretation that they are mentally weak, or whatever - with few exceptions, that kind of player gets weeded out well before they reach this stage, or at least coping mechanisms are taught.

     

    But I am concerned that the pitching strategy in the 9th or later is simply different from earlier in the game, and if our guys are going to the plate with the same strategy as in the earlier innings, they could be setting themselves up for failure.

     

    Which is why I named the batting coach, above, as needing to do some reflection. It's his job to find answers. WHY are the numbers like they are, is what he needs to get to the bottom of.

     

    It's SSS. It could be a fluke. But, like I said, worrisome.

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    Unless Dyson spent his plane ride watching video and studying Miami batters, he wasn't prepared and shouldn't have been playing.

    He's a National Leaguer - he pitched against the Marlins as recently as late May. Plus I'm sure there was a conversation with him before he took the mound. Plus he has a catcher to share the decision making with, in the moment. He's a veteran, and isn't asking the bullpen coach, "what do you call that wiggly pitch, again?"

     

    He's got to make his pitches. That's all. And when he doesn't: Get'em tomorrow.

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    He has pulled pitchers quite often with mid 80s pitch counts. I would be curious what the actual stat is.

     

    And we've had essentially zero trips to the IL for our starters. Only a couple of one-start vacations, one of which was a blister. 

     

    I wonder if there is any causality here.

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    Not to harp on this, but if there was any chance we want Dyson to pitch in the Thursday noon game, why didn't we fly him in on Wednesday night? Trade was finalized at 4 PM, Dyson was already on a road trip in Philadelphia. The Giants game went past 10 PM, surely they could have gotten him into Miami by that time?

     

    Otherwise, if it's customary to give a guy the evening off on the day of a trade or something, why fly him down to Miami on Thursday morning, just to fly him back to Minneapolis on Thursday afternoon?

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    Not sure if most would describe Philadelphia to Miami as "cross country" but I guess it sort of does go across most of the country, vertically. :)

    A large percentage of the US population lives in a small band along the I-95 corridor - although a goodly portion of that is north of Philly - still in terms of human beings his flight crossed a lot of the nation. :)

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    Tough one,. Easy and fair to criticize Baldelli for bringing in Dyson in the 9th when he just got to the team and also for pitching Rogers 3 nights in a row. Should not have brought Dyson in today, and should not have pitched Rogers last night, but hindsight is always 20/20. Also easy to excuse Baldelli because of the lack of other options out there. I can understand him not trusting May at all and not trusting Harper in a save situation. There isn't really anyone else.  Remember when we thought Hildenberger was going to ba a late inning option? 

     

    Bottom line is that the Bullpen is still at least one guy short UNLESS either May or Harper can emerge as a reliable late inning option. Maybe Zack Littel is an (the) answer?

     

    I think the move is to send Stashack down, bring up Littel, and keep Thorpe around as the long man. Pitch May, Harper and Littel in late inning situations against easier teams and see if one emerges. We have to have one of them or someone else come through and we can only have that happen if they get opportunities.

    And the Duffmaster

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    A large percentage of the US population lives in a small band along the I-95 corridor - although a goodly portion of that is north of Philly - still in terms of human beings his flight crossed a lot of the nation. :)

    Dyson actually spent only slightly more time flying across all those humans as it took me to drive the bike to breakfast in SW MN last Sunday. While I did not see a small band, but I heard there was a 3 piece combo at the Legion in Walnut Grove Saturday night.
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