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  • Twins Game Recap (8/1): Dyson Implodes In Twins Debut


    Andrew Thares

    It seemed as though the Twins were sailing, on their way to their first series sweep since late May. They had a 4-1 lead entering the bottom of the ninth, with freshly acquired Sam Dyson coming onto the mound for what appeared was going to be an easy save against one of the worst hitting teams in the major leagues. That wasn’t the case, and when all was said and done, it was the Marlins who walked away with the victory.

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    Box Score

    Pineda: 6.0 IP, 7 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 72.5% strikes (58 of 80 pitches)

    Home Runs: Kepler (30)

    Multi-Hit Games: Kepler (2 for 6, HR), Buxton (2 for 5)

    WPA of +0.1: Buxton .249, Pineda .175, Harper .123,

    WPA of -0.1: Dyson -.448, -.254,

    Max Kepler gave the Twins a quick 1-0 lead, blasting the fourth pitch of the game over the fence in right field. It was already Kepler’s 30th home run of the season, 10 more than his previous career high he set last year.

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    The Marlins were able to get that run back thanks to an RBI-triple from Miami outfielder Harold Ramirez. Byron Buxton gave it his best effort tracking the ball down in the right-centerfield gap, but it was just out of his reach. Michael Pineda did do a good job of preventing the Marlins from adding any more runs, as he got Cesar Puello to strike out, followed by an intentional walk of Bryan Holaday, to bring up Marlins pitcher Jordan Yamamoto, who Pineda got to ground out to end the inning.

    The Twins used some clever managing to help them put up a crooked inning in the top of the fourth. Eddie Rosario led off the inning with a strikeout, before Miguel Sano lined a double to left-field. That was followed by a Jason Castro strikeout and an Ehrie Adrianza hit-by-pitch. Here is where the clever move by Rocco Baldelli came into play. With two-outs and two runners on base, and the pitcher’s spot on deck, this was a prime situation for the Marlins to intentionally walk Byron Buxton. However, Baldelli sent Mitch Garver into the on-deck circle to signify that he was going to hit for Michale Pineda, even though it was only the fourth inning. The strategy worked, as the Marlins decided to pitch to Buxton, who promptly pulled a double that caught the chalk down the third base line, bringing both Sano and Adrianza around to score.

    Some great base running by Luis Arraez helped the Twins extend their lead in the top of the fifth. After reaching base with a one-out single, Arraez advanced to third on some gutsy base running after Jorge Polanco lined a hit to left field. Arraez then came in to score the Twins' fourth run of the game on a sac-fly from Eddie Rosario.

    Michael Pineda finished off yet another quality start today, after going six-innings and giving up just the one run in the second. Dating back to the beginning of May, Pineda has a 3.48 ERA across 88 innings pitched. Over that time he has 10 quality starts, and has gone at least five innings while allowing three ER or less in 14 of those 15 starts.

    Things were going as planned for the Twins through the later innings. Both Tyler Duffey and Sergio Romo worked scoreless innings, keeping the Twins lead of 4-1 heading into the bottom of the ninth. With Taylor Rogers having pitched in each of the last two ballgames, Rocco Baldelli was trying to avoid using him for the third day in a row to pick up the save. Instead, he chose to go with brand new Minnesota Twin, Sam Dyson, who had just arrived in at the ballpark about an hour or so after the game had started. Dyson came in, and proceeded to go walk, single, double, walk. Baldelli quickly got Rogers up and loose. He had to come in and protect what was now a two-run lead, with the bases loaded and nobody out. After Neil Walker singled up the middle to tie the game, Rogers was in even deeper trouble. However, Rogers did exactly what a relief ace is supposed to do and struck out the side to send the game to extra innings.

    The Twins hitters went dead quiet in extra innings, as not a single batter reached base in the 10th, 11th or 12th innings. Max Kepler put up a great 14 pitch at-bat in the 12th, and hit a deep drive into corner in right, but it was not enough, as it was caught on the warning track. This inability to get some big hits in extra innings came back to bite them, as Harold Ramirez connected on a Cody Stashak fastball to lead off the bottom of 12th and just like that the game was over.

    Bullpen Usage

    Here’s a quick look at the number of pitches thrown by the bullpen over the past five days:

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    Sat vs KC, 6:10 pm CT (Duffey-Gibson)

    Sun vs KC, 1:10 pm CT (Keller-Odorizzi)

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    The problem with Warne's tweet is, if Rogers was available...and we know he was...its a three run lead, Rogers is the guy you've decided gets the 9th with a 3 run lead.

     

    You put Rogers out there to start the 9th.

     

    If Rogers cant be used 3 days in a row, what was he doing out there today?

    Is he though? Without looking at his usage, I suspect you can count the number of times he’s come into that situation on one hand.

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    Is he though? Without looking at his usage, I suspect you can count the number of times he’s come into that situation on one hand.

    who has gotten a 9th inning save opportunity other than Rogers since the AS break?

     

    Other than, uh, new guy.

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    who has gotten a 9th inning save opportunity other than Rogers since the AS break?

     

    Other than, uh, new guy.

    That wasn’t the situation you specified.

     

    btw, Rogers has entered a game in the 9th with no one on and a 3 (or more) run lead 4 times in 2019. In one, he did not finish the game. Ryne Harper did. One was against the Yankees in which he had not pitched in 4 days. There was another against the Jays where he had not pitched for 3 days. The other was against the Indians and I seem to recall universal support for the decision to use him against the division rival in hostile territory. Rogers hasn’t been used as a traditional closer all year. I suspect that to continue. Indeed, trying to use someone else with a 3 run lead seems to support that hypothesis, no?

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    One last thought on Roccos's managerial chops. There isn't a lot to go on so far. The Twins spent the first half of the season amassing wins with very large margins. The offense was so dominant anyone who could put 9 names on a sheet of paper could have won during that time. Once the games tighten, the hitters start to press a little, and a limited BP needs daily massaging one can get a better handle on his talents, or lack thereof. I will repeat what I have said before. While good managers possibly don't "win" many games, bad managers lose quite a few. There are things I like about him so far, and things I don't. But I can't say either opinion outweighs the other at this time.

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    That wasn’t the situation you specified.

     

     

    That's the exact situation I specified. 3 run lead or less, Rogers gets the 9th. He's been the closer for weeks now. Pretty sure I even remember Rogers getting the 9th with a 4 run lead.

     

    Who was the last pitcher to start the 9th in a save situation other than Rogers?

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    That's the exact situation I specified. 3 run lead or less, Rogers gets the 9th. He's been the closer for weeks now. Pretty sure I even remember Rogers getting the 9th with a 4 run lead.

    Who was the last pitcher to start the 9th in a save situation other than Rogers?

     

    I think you're both a little bit correct and a little bit incorrect.

     

    Clearly no one else has had a save in a long time (to me it looks like the last non-Rogers save was Parker back on June 22).  For better or worse, Baldelli had refused to give anyone a chance to try to protect a 3 run lead at the end of a ball game in a long, long time. 

     

    That said, you also asked who was the last pitcher to start the 9th in a save situation other than Rogers, and you may be surprised that even Rogers himself has only done that himself only four times(!!!) over the last seven weeks(!!!).  Baldelli very rarely brings in a new pitcher in a traditional closer setting like you mentioned (start of the 9th with less than 3 runs).

     

    Instead, what Baldelli has done is bring in Rogers into a few non-save situations in the 9th (which a traditional closer doesn't do) and he also saved a few games from the 7th and 8th inning on (which a traditional closer doesn't do).

     

    Perhaps semantic points, but then yours was a semantic (if also rhetorical) question :)

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    He ran Dyson - a National League pitcher - out against a National League team.  If anyone should have some familiarity with the opposing hitters and have an idea about how to get them out, it would be someone like Dyson.

     

    Obviously, it didn't work, so that makes it a "bad move" ...

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    Was last night's Dyson meltdown also Baldelli's fault in some way?

    EDIT: Silly me. I just read the game recap. Of course it's still Baldelli's fault.

     

    It's "Sports Fan Logic 101" .... "If it doesn't work, it was a stupid idea."

     

    Sports fans - of every team - love to tell you what a moron their coach/manager is AFTER they know things didn't go well.

     

    See how many of them will "call it" that way before they know how it turned out, though ... *crickets*

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    It's "Sports Fan Logic 101" .... "If it doesn't work, it was a stupid idea."

     

    Sports fans - of every team - love to tell you what a moron their coach/manager is AFTER they know things didn't go well.

     

    See how many of them will "call it" that way before they know how it turned out, though ... *crickets*

    Moderator's note: All right, I understand the temptation, but let's not make this be about fellow posters, or vague groups of "sports fans". Counter an opinion you disagree with, with something better.

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    Just a housekeeping note here - many of us didn't like how Pineda was removed early from this game as he was just at 81 pitches, but with Pineda hitting the IL, is it possible he was removed early due to the triceps injury? Just a thought.

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    Just a housekeeping note here - many of us didn't like how Pineda was removed early from this game as he was just at 81 pitches, but with Pineda hitting the IL, is it possible he was removed early due to the triceps injury? Just a thought.

    Seems unlikely given that he didn’t hit the IL until two days after his start.

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    Seems unlikely given that he didn’t hit the IL until two days after his start.

    Theoretically, it could be something that bothered him a little on Thursday, and didn't go away / get better on Friday/Saturday as expected, which prompted the IL move.

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