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  • Twins Game Recap (7/19): Twins Have No Answer To A’s pitching


    Thiéres Rabelo

    The Twins took the lead early, couldn’t hold on to it and were shut out by Oakland pitchers for six straight innings, losing 5-3 at the end. Jake Odorizzi wasn't as sharp as he’s usually been and Ryne Harper suffered a rare loss, only his second of the year. With the Cleveland win against Kansas City, the Twins lead in the AL Central now drops to three games.

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    Odorizzi: 5.0 IP, 5 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 3 K, 63.6% strikes (56 of 88 pitches)

    Bullpen: 4.0 IP, 6 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 4 K

    Home Runs: Gonzalez (11)

    Multi-Hit Games: Castro (2-for-2)

    Top 3 WPA: Gonzalez .136, Cruz .090, Castro .054

    Bottom 3 WPA: Harper -.234, Cron -.217, Rosario -.093

    The Twins offense once again shows signs of irregularity. After scoring the three runs early, they were dominated by A’s starter Chris Bassitt and the bullpen. Former Twin Liam Hendriks came in to pitch a five-out save, including a six-pitch eighth. The only highlight for Minnesota bats in the night was Luis Arraez’ hitting streak remaining alive, as he hit an infield single in his last at-bat. He’s now had a hit in 12 consecutive games, the second longest streak in baseball.

    Odorizzi had some unfinished business against the A’s. Last time he faced them, a blister on his right middle finger cut his start short, after only three innings. He gave up a season high five earned runs, four of which came off a grand slam. He was then put in the 10-day injured list, incidentally missing the first All-Star game of his career.

    The A's jumped on Odorizzi early. Marcus Semien hit a leadoff home run on the third pitch of the game, a bullet to left field. A couple of batters later Khris Davis grounded to center to score Mark Canha, giving Oakland a two-run lead. After that, Odo went on to pitch three shutout innings, despite not being as sharp as he has usually been this season, striking out only one batter.

    The offense made a good effort to back up their starter. Miguel Sanó drew a two-out walk in the second and on a Matt Olson fielding error near first base, after a Max Kepler ground ball, he was brought home to cut Oakland’s lead in half. On the following inning, Marwin Gonzalez hit a two-run bomb to give Minnesota the lead.

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    Odorizzi gave up a game-tying single in the fifth, which gave him a no-decision, as he didn’t come back to pitch the sixth. He remains unbeaten at home, where he is 6-0 in the year, now with a 2.56 ERA. He hasn’t lost a game at home since Aug. 24 of last year, against this same Oakland team.

    The Sire is down

    Uncharacteristically, Ryne Harper was punished by righties in his relief appearance. Before tonight’s game, right-handed hitters were being held by him to only .203 batting average. Facing the middle part of the A’s lineup, he gave up three hits, all against righties, that were enough to score a couple of runs. This was Harper’s 42nd game of the year, but only the third time he allowed more than one run in an outing.

    In his relief, the rest of the bullpen did a fine job, pitching three scoreless innings, with Tyler Duffey, Blake Parker and Zack Littell. The latter managed to pitch his tenth consecutive scoreless outing, despite giving up a one-out triple to Semien. He had a little help from a 3-2-3, inning-ending double play.

    Postgame With Baldelli

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    A couple things to note:

     

    1. Even after the treading water for the past 5 weeks, the Twins still hold the 3rd best record in the American League and 2nd best run differential.  

     

    2.  The Indians have basically been unbeatable.  They are 22-7 in their last 29 games.  They would have gained on anyone.  Winning 75% of your games will do that.

     

     

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    I am not sure it is lack of urgency.

     

    They need to find a seller and sellers have no reason for urgency. If you have one of the best relievers or starters in the market it is to your advantage to wait. There are more buyers than sellers.

     

    The Twins could overpay significantly and win a deal today. I would think that is a move of desperation rather than urgency.

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    I am not sure it is lack of urgency.

    They need to find a seller and sellers have no reason for urgency. If you have one of the best relievers or starters in the market it is to your advantage to wait. There are more buyers than sellers.

    The Twins could overpay significantly and win a deal today. I would think that is a move of desperation rather than urgency.

    Or, they decide that that IS the price of urgency.

     

    Sometimes, I comparison-shop the hell out of a product. Other times, I pay full retail at the most expensive shop that happens to be right around the corner, because I want a bandaid for the knee I just scraped when I unexpectedly tripped during my walk downtown, and the cost of waiting would affect me some other way than the direct cost.

     

    I'm not saying to trade Royce Lewis for a bullpen rental arm. But there is such a thing as false economy.

     

    I've been a stay the course, conserve the assets, guy for years. This is not the year.

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    I am not sure it is lack of urgency.

    They need to find a seller and sellers have no reason for urgency. If you have one of the best relievers or starters in the market it is to your advantage to wait. There are more buyers than sellers.

    The Twins could overpay significantly and win a deal today. I would think that is a move of desperation rather than urgency.

     

    This should be no problem. It is an established fact that a top reliever can be had for a couple of mediocre prospects not even in AA ball yet........ proof is in the Pressly trade to Houston! (and our front office was the architect of the phenomenon)  :banghead:

     

    They should even know the exact players it takes to get the "next Pressly".

     

     

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    We always were a .500 team playing well above projections. And it was fun. Maybe they’ll find that again, maybe we’ll get some help, but I think most thought we were a .500 before the season started.

    I believe I picked 93 wins - or maybe 92, I can't remember exactly. Happy to not be in the "gang" that knows so much. If they play just over .500 from here on out........... that is what the win total will be.

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    This should be no problem. It is an established fact that a top reliever can be had for a couple of mediocre prospects not even in AA ball yet........ proof is in the Pressly trade to Houston! (and our front office was the architect of the phenomenon) :banghead:

     

    They should even know the exact players it takes to get the "next Pressly".

    I think that will happen but it is going to take 10 days.

     

    I do think lower tier players will get moved earlier. I do think teams might be trying to move some difficult to trade contracts. The Twins might make one of these deals and get a 7th inning guy we see as similar to May in the next few days. They need someone to match with Rogers though. They need a top starter. There aren’t very many of these guys and the sellers are wise to wait and play the buyers against each other.

     

    The Twins would have to make them an offer that they are absolutely certain won’t be beat.

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    I think that will happen but it is going to take 10 days.

    I do think lower tier players will get moved earlier. I do think teams might be trying to move some difficult to trade contracts. The Twins might make one of these deals and get a 7th inning guy we see as similar to May in the next few days. They need someone to match with Rogers though. They need a top starter. There aren’t very many of these guys and the sellers are wise to wait and play the buyers against each other.

    The Twins would have to make them an offer that they are absolutely certain won’t be beat.

     

    One would say the same thing about free agency just less than 2 years ago. I guess the urgency is different, but then....... look what our Twins did as a selling team last year. Not such great return. Not much competition, it seems, or at least I hope not to take what they did. Those who wait most often watch others making the trade. 

     

    Why does someone "similar to May" not excite me?

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    One would say the same thing about free agency just less than 2 years ago. I guess the urgency is different, but then....... look what our Twins did as a selling team last year. Not such great return. Not much competition, it seems, or at least I hope not to take what they did. Those who wait most often watch others making the trade. 

     

    Why does someone "similar to May" not excite me?

    Exactly.  We better be shooting for more than "similar to May".....

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    I am not sure it is lack of urgency.

    They need to find a seller and sellers have no reason for urgency. If you have one of the best relievers or starters in the market it is to your advantage to wait. There are more buyers than sellers.

    The Twins could overpay significantly and win a deal today. I would think that is a move of desperation rather than urgency.

     

    Ian Kennedy could be had today for a very reasonable price, yet I see no action...

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    We need to modestly overpay in prospects for relief sooner rather than later.

     

    The 10ish more games between now and the deadline matter and Rogers is getting cooked alive in usage (not just usage but constant usage in high leverage situations sometimes for multiple innings).

     

    We need to try to win those 10 games AND prevent Rogers from breaking down.

     

    Suck it up and overpay a bit (it could be even more by the deadline)

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