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  • Twins Close To Acquiring LHP Jaime Garcia?

    Seth Stohs

    By Seth Stohs

    Update Friday 4:44 - It's now been about 24 hours since Ken Rosenthal first tweeted that the Twins were close to acquiring Jaime Garcia. As things sit right now, Garcia is set to start for Atlanta and the trade talks are on hold as other teams are now involved. This has been very interesting, with several twists and turns. It will be nice to see it resolved, whatever that means. As fans, however, it is nice to know that the Twins front office is being aggressive and pursuing players as buyers at this time.

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    Ken Rosenthal was first to report that the Minnesota Twins are close to acquiring veteran LHP Jaime Garcia from the Atlanta Braves.

    Recently Rhett Bollinger tweeted that the Twins will trade a minor leaguer to the Braves to complete the deal. Jon Heyman has confirmed that it is a one-for-one deal.

    As of midnight Thursday night/Friday morning, the deal was not complete, but most seem to believe that it will still happen.

    As the deal becomes final and we learn more about the specifics, we will update this article.

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    The 31-year-old Garcia debuted with the St. Louis Cardinals in 2008. He stayed in that organization through the 2016 season when he was traded.

    Last offseason, he was traded to Atlanta in exchange for three minor leaguers.

    In 17 starts and 106 innings, Garcia is 3-7 with a 4.33 ERA and a 1.33 WHIP. He has walked 40 and struck out 81.

    While the front office has said that it wasn't interested in trading for rentals, Garcia is in the final season of a six year, $50 million deal. He is making $12 million this season. He likely has about $4 million remaining on the deal.

    Per Mike Berardino (or a source of his) it's possible the trade won't be completed until Friday.

    As Thursday turns into Friday, the deal has still not been finalized, though most still believe that it will happen.

    Check back for updates.

    Seth Stohs has been blogging about the Minnesota Twins since May 2003. A founder and owner of Twins Daily, Seth has been a Twins fan for 40 years and has a passion for covering the minor leagues and prospects.
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    ScooterDance

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    A rotation of Santana, Berrios, Garcia, Meija, Gibson could be alright. A backend bullpen of Duffey, Curtiss, Romero, Hildenberger, Rogers, Kintzler could be alright.

    The offense, as is, with Buxton elevating his game slightly, could be alright.

    Throw in another, cost controlled starter for Gibson, and you just might talk me in to the possibility of the Twins making a run.

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    twinssouth

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    As of 7:14 this morning mlbtraderumors has reported the deal has not been finalized.  May be a medical thing or maybe teams cannot agree on player/players in the deal.

     

     

     

    I read that too. So, 2 scenarios play out:

     

    Braves take on salary, expect high level prospect

     

    Twins take on salary, expect to give up low level prospect.

     

    I hope Len III is right

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    Loosey

    Loosey 1,788

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    There is a pretty big difference between "decent prospect" and "good prospect"

     

    This car for sale runs pretty good.

     

    This car for sell runs pretty decent.

     

    I'm buying the one that runs good!

    I think the order goes:

     

    Pretty Bad

    Bad

    Ok

    Pretty Decent

    Decent

    Pretty Good

    Good

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    olivia11

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    Notable position players not in yesterday's minor league lineups. 

    AAA: John Ryan Murphy, Edgar Corcino

    AA: Travis Harrison

    A+: Luis Arraez (DL)

    A: Amaurys Minier

    R: Kolton Kendrick, Akil Baddoo

     

    I think Baddoo was promoted yesterday so that could explain why he was out.  But, overall, all the top position player prospects played yesterday.   Maybe it's a pitcher?  Or maybe it's not as common to not play a position player who might get traded? (injury risk lower?)

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    gunnarthor

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    I don't think the Twins would move off of Stewart this quickly. While he's a lighting rod around here, he was on Klaw's top 100 entering the season, the Twins probably have a few people in the system who think highly of him and he's relatively young for AA still. I think it's more likely to be a guy like Blankenhorn or Wade type player.

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    goulik

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    So what if we ARE giving up one of our TOP prospects and are also getting back a Top 15 prospect of theirs? Wasnt the rumor that we are also getting a prospect? I have heard a lot of speculation on "who are we giving up" and nothing on "who else are we getting".

     

    Maybe I shouldnt suggest this because it could just blow up TD but...IF we were giving up a Gordon type...Who else do we get back?

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    Brock Beauchamp

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    I'd add Thorpe and Stewart to that list. Though I don't know how Stewart does it, but his last 6 starts have worked, strikeouts be danged.

    I value Thorpe more highly than either Gonsalves or Romero so... yeah. Definitely agree on that one.

     

    Stewart? Eh, still too valuable but I value him quite a bit less than those three. But Stewart is approaching reasonable return area for a Garcia rental.

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    Otto von Ballpark

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    Maybe I shouldnt suggest this because it could just blow up TD but...IF we were giving up a Gordon type...Who else do we get back?

    Well, we only really have one "Gordon type" and the Braves have no particular need for him, so I don't think we have to worry. Could be we send them a pitching prospect and get a lesser prospect or non-prospect in return (like Busenitz last year).

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    Connor Gould

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    Kohl Stewart has given up 1 or zero runs in 5 of his last 6 and the 6 was a "quality start" Probably hasn't recovered the trade value but not a guy you want to lose.

    Yeah, I phrased that wrong. I meant that Stewart is a good prospect but I wouldn't mind giving him up in this trade assuming another prospect comes back. He'd be bad to give up 1 for 1 and it would be selling low.

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    Brock Beauchamp

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    Ugh, I've been bracing for impact since the rumors started. If it's Brusdar Graterol, I'm gonna be pretty disappointed. He's just about to turn 19, so he's a complete wild card, but he throws in the high 90s. Not the kind of guy the Twins should be flipping. But I guess whoever they're trading away they must not like very much, and Falvey was brought in for his pitching prowess.

    This is what I'm most interested in, really. Who doesn't Falvey like? This will be an interesting test of how he views the org and wants to change it going forward. None of the players in question are "his" guys so I expect we may be surprised by the result.

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    jorgenswest

    jorgenswest 5,941

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    The Braves would be wise to demand a better prospect rather than demand the Twins (or any other team) pay the entirety of his salary. They are doing well at the gate this year. They can't be pressed against their budget.

     

    Since they can pay, they can seek the single best prospect offered. That is so much better for them than to take a package or a lesser prospect and dollars. If a team feels stretched at the prospect they can the offer to send back a lesser prospect or cash rather than lower the bar on the return. They have a lot of time between now and the deadline. Any deal they take now would have to exceed their expectations.

     

    Over the long term, the Twins will likely lose on this deal. It is part of doing business as a contender at the trade deadline. It is great to be a contender though. Whether it is Thorpe or Blankenhorn or Stewart or Garvin, it is going to hurt. The gamble is that the Twins go 7-6 as opposed to 5-8 in the 13 Garcia starts. Those two wins can offset that hurt.

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    Brock Beauchamp

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    The Braves would be wise to demand a better prospect rather than demand the Twins (or any other team) pay the entirety of his salary. They are doing well at the gate this year. They can't be pressed against their budget.

    The Twins are in the same situation, though. They're waaaaaaay under their payroll threshold.

     

    I expect the Twins to take on most, if not all, of the salary because why not? If the Braves want to deal with someone else for a better prospect, let them do that.

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    Loosey

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    The Braves would be wise to demand a better prospect rather than demand the Twins (or any other team) pay the entirety of his salary. They are doing well at the gate this year. They can't be pressed against their budget.

    Since they can pay, they can seek the single best prospect offered. That is so much better for them than to take a package or a lesser prospect and dollars. If a team feels stretched at the prospect they can the offer to send back a lesser prospect or cash rather than lower the bar on the return. They have a lot of time between now and the deadline. Any deal they take now would have to exceed their expectations.

    Over the long term, the Twins will likely lose on this deal. It is part of doing business as a contender at the trade deadline. It is great to be a contender though. Whether it is Thorpe or Blankenhorn or Stewart or Garvin, it is going to hurt. The gamble is that the Twins go 7-6 as opposed to 5-8 in the 13 Garcia starts. Those two wins can offset that hurt.

    The flip side of this argument could be that other teams in on him don't feel Garcia is worth a full-fledged high upside prospect and also are willing to take on the salary.  He is a #4 type starter with a contract up at the end of the season.  My guess is the other teams are in the Twins boat and don't have very realistic chances at the World Series, so they view Garcia as an upgrade over whatever bad starters they currently have at the back of their rotation and Garcia might help them sneak into a wild card spot.  Those teams likely will offer "pretty decent" prospects and take on cash.  To the Braves that's better than nothing and letting him walk at the end of the season.  Just my devils advocate position to the Braves eating his salary.

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