Twins Claim Ehire Adrianza, DFA Pat Light

No, I understand that.

I'm suggesting you should look up the data.

Clearly I did look at the data as I pointed out that what I was talking about (RF) is not the same as whatever RZR is. In order to do that, I had to look at RZR.

The person who could not be bothered to look anything up is the person on the other end of the transaction. I looked at both metrics.

For some reason you are coming into this conversation with a bias without properly reading the thread. Not sure what the point is other than to drag it out. I think the two of us have already moved on.

The more and more I think about this  the more and more I expect Adrianza to be our SS this year. Polanco will be our super-sub and play 2nd, 3rd and SS. If Sano can't handle 3rd I would expect Polanco to end up there with Sano being the DH or start taking some grounders at 1st where I think he projects when Joe hangs them up...... or sooner.  

you compared Light to Chargois. It's very clear to me that Chargois would be claimed, just like you said.

It's still not clear to me Light would be claimed. He was traded for cash which makes him marginal to be claimed.

The biggest difference between the two in terms of woulda coulda shoulda is if Chargois were DFA'd I'd be pissed and with Light DFA'd I feel ambivalent

They aren't comparable players at this point in their careers.

Light will be claimed. . Chargois would be claimed. Any Twin on the 40 man not named Danny Santana will be claimed when designated for assignment 

That statement does not compare the 2 pitchers.  Light being traded for cash means the brain  wizards in Pittsburg thought  he would be claimed by a team that finished worse than they did. There is no marginal to be claimed.

Well you aren't going to bench Sano or Dozier very often if they are healthy. So, barring injury, how many starts is Polanco going to get in this scenario?

Depends on DH. If it is rotating between Vargas, Mauer Dozier, Polanco  and Sano/

Vargas plays against lefthanders ,  That leaves about 3/4 of the games for  Polamco

When you name two players in a sentence such as this, it is comparative. We compare players continually.

If Pittsburg was really worried Light would be claimed, why wasn't there a player traded instead of cash?

Actually per MLB   "Minnesota Twins traded RHP Pat Light to Pittsburgh Pirates for Player To Be Named Later." Which would suggest either they are still trying to agree on a prospect or agree to a cash transaction. I have not seen anything suggesting there has  been a resolution either way.

Well you aren't going to bench Sano or Dozier very often if they are healthy. So, barring injury, how many starts is Polanco going to get in this scenario?

Like it or not, Sano is going to play 3B every day this year.
So you are going to put Polanco at DH 120 times?

As the super sub position he won't play DH at all unless something unforeseen happens.

You could see that Dozier needed a blow more often last hear and one or 2 days off a week where Dozier could play DH or have a full day off. = 2 days of playing time ...... multilply that at SS and 3rd and you are looking at Polanco playing about 5 days a week.

As far as Sano playing every day I would be jumping for joy if  he shows he  is  competent there.

That  has yet to happen.

If he "shows"  that  he is incompetent there like he has in the past we just keep running him out there? That is  a good  way to lose a team ( or a  GM ) ... If he is the same guy as last year he  won't be out there  everyday.... He may be batting everyday at the DH but I don't think the new Front office is going to sit on their hands and watch him make a fool out of himself. Let's all hope  he has made major strides in the offseason!

According to the team it was cash
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Could be the actual situation but according to the MLB office it is for a player to be named. Either way Light gone and cash or a minor prospect..... not a major situation.

Well I don't believe the Twins will give Dozier and Sano 2 days each per week at DH.

Sano needs reps at 3rd. The Twins are going nowhere in 2017. He will play there everyday, yes even if he's terrible. If he doesn't improve, then you have to find a new spot for him in 2018, but if healthy he'll play every day at 3B in 2017.

Well we will agree to disagree..... Actually I didn't say that each would DH 2 times a week - I said possible one time of the 2 days off. Leaving plenty of time for Polanco to play.

Again I would love to have Sano be the guy at 3rd as I think he can be a superstar. I also understand that our new FO's priority is to improve our pitching and defense. They go together. If he can't play defense the team will find a spot for his bat that is certain.

Nothing more deflating as a former player as not trusting that a guy is going to make a play and he doesn't .... over and over again. I am sure we have some former pitchers in here that can tell you this first hand.

 Don't have the stats but I am sure that one of our metric dudes can connect good defense to good pitching as they go together. More importantly good pitching and good defensive teams have a much better chance of winning.

When you name two players in a sentence such as this, it is comparative. We compare players continually.

If Pittsburg was really worried Light would be claimed, why wasn't there a player traded instead of cash?

That is funny. What an alternative truth. The Twins starting rotation might be Hughes, May, Gibson and Santiago. By your logic, I just compared them. Funny logic.

Like it or not, Sano is going to play 3B every day this year.
So you are going to put Polanco at DH 120 times?

Dozier is the only player to start over 150 games for the last three years. Sano will not play 3b every game, like it or not.

Groundball pitchers Duffey and Gibson will benefit most from Adrianza. Duffey had the best xFIP and SIERA among their starters last year and he seems the getting little consideration for the rotation. He mixed an extremely high HR/FB rate and a significant drop in double play rate last year driving a huge disparity between ERA and xFIP. The HR rate will regress and Adrianza should help considerably.

I could be wrong about whether the Twins view him as a starter but I hope his xFIP- of 92 offers them some hope that his ERA was driven by both very poor luck and very poor defense. They should be counting on him for the rotation.